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More and more I've been wondering if I might be INTP instead of ENTP. It's killing me, but I've got to face the facts; there is evidence for both cases, it seems. Prepare yourself - the babbling begins now! Have fun....I'm just putting it all out here. Feel free just to skim; I apologize for the length of this post.

I always assumed I was extroverted because I'm quite friendly, eloquent, and outspoken, as well as an excellent improviser. In addition, I welcome and thoroughly enjoy opportunities for public speaking - the less planning, the better! People often compliment me on my abilities in this area; I can get up and give a kick-ass speech at the drop of a dime. Also, supposedly one of the hallmarks of extroversion is speaking before thinking, which certainly applies to me much of the time. When I first began taking tests for it, I always scored as an extrovert (I still usually do), but now that I've better come to understand MBTI, I feel that I might be introverted.

For one, I rarely initiate conversation; I want to, but I tend to wait for the other person to initiate conversation and then treat that as a green light, at which point I almost immediately become loud and vivacious. I have a tendency to withdraw to my computer and I prefer to work alone to avoid distraction - and also because my superiority complex leads me to trust no one but myself to do an adequate job. I like people, but increasingly I value my time alone; I was an extremely outgoing child, but now I find that this is not necessarily the case. I've always blamed relatively unaccepting peers for this, as well as the supposed tendency for young ENTPs to seem introverted, but could it be that I really am just introverted?

The question also remains as to whether or not my sudden onset of introversion might be the result of an idealized self. I tend to adopt behaviors like that of my romantic interests, so because of my tendency to like introverts, I've toned myself down a great deal. It's a conscious effort, but I try to remain as calm-sounding as I can. While I really am very calm by nature, in speech and in writing it is natural for me to want to grow loud and crazy, so I've learned to "class myself up," if you will.

In function tests, I score in a very ENTP-looking way, but now that I'm looking at it more closely, I wonder if that's just an illusion. My Ne and Ti are roughly even - there are some days when Ti surpasses Ne - and although I always score the next highest on Fe and the lowest (of all the functions) on Si, I feel that this could be questionable. You see, although I don't place much value upon Si, I think I use it much more than I allow myself to admit. I began to suspect this when I realized that no other ENTP seems to value spelling and grammar as much as I do. I'm also excellent when it comes to memorization and the like, in a very Si-seeming manner (hence the reason my spelling and grammar are as good as they are). When I'm around fellow ENTPs, I'm always picking away at their grammar, and while I originally attributed this to the influence of my beloved ESTJ mother, I now wonder if it's not just because I have stronger Si than I previously believed. Furthermore, when I'm with other ENTPs, I often adopt the role of the introvert; I'm the quieter one, the thinker - and the one who fixes all of their grammatical errors, of course. A higher Si would also explain why my image can sometimes seem SJ-ish to those who really don't know me.

As for Fe...well, it's a more recent development. I developed it as a necessity in order to be accepted by my peers, and it's quite useful, but it's still sometimes a weakness; I try to apply it and strive to master it, but there are times when I'm simply not able to get a good sense of the feelings of others, and it bothers me. Don't let me fool you, though; I'm actually very skilled when it comes to reading people in general. I can understand core motives in an instant, and I effortlessly know the types of the people I meet with scary accuracy. I have the tendency of finishing others' sentences, knowing their thoughts without them telling me, and so on. Would Fe, then, be my Tertiary or Inferior function? I've come to value it and am generally very strong with it, but I still do struggle at times. Is it normal to develop one's Inferior function to such a degree? If this were the case, I'd have four well-developed functions, which seems a bit odd...

I suppose my trouble is that I've never fully understood the implications of the Inferior function. Since there are four other functions technically below it, does that make it relatively strong despite its title? I've always been under the impression that the Inferior function implied one's ultimate weakness. An enlightening explanation would be wonderful.

...Okay, so this is getting to be ridiculously verbose, but I feel the need to discuss some more.

I have all the inventiveness and creativity of an ENTP, but I'm often more intellectual, which is stereotypically more attributed to INTPs (Literary goddess that I am, I LOVE math...). I wonder, though, if I've toned down my Ne because of, again, my tendency to try to mirror love interests (AKA introverts, and usually extreme ones, at that). I'm actually not a big fan of conflict; I enjoy debate more than anything, but only when it is understood that there is to be no real anger and conflict involved. I view debating, rather, as a mutual learning experience. I'm always open to new information, always reconfiguring my beliefs, and I never take offense to anything that anyone says. Seriously...if you can truly offend or anger me, you deserve a gold medal, because it is extremely difficult to do. I tend to march to the beat of my own drum; if I follow the crowd, it's because the crowd is doing something with which I just so happen to agree. If I disagree with the majority, there is absolutely nothing stopping me from doing whatever I think is right. I often do simple things in a different way than normal, and people wonder why, but it's really just because I don't place any value on what's "normal." I do whatever makes sense to me, and I love all things novel and strange.

Much of the time I have the craziness of an ENTP, while other times I feel so INTP that it's painful. I find that many of my thoughts are very abstract and difficult to express, giving off the illusion that I don't have a point or understanding of something, when really it's just too abstract for me to verbalize immediately. I always remember my points after talking to someone...

I'm every bit a charming smooth-talker, but I'm also a major nerd. Either way, I have an ego that could put most anyone's to shame! I'm ambivalent, laid-back, and logical, but I'm also strong-willed, perfectionistic, and fiery. I've always described myself as the contradictory free-spirited perfectionist, as well as the typical mad scientist type. I love to learn, but I'm lazy as anything...

Compared to introverts, I'm goofy, outspoken, and even annoying. Compared to extroverts, I can be a bit of a recluse (I'm not a fan of any sort of touching unless it's someone in whom I'm interested romantically), but perhaps that's simply due to my extreme need for independence.

Let's see....Is there anything else I can add? Well, I'm not at all fickle in love, but that doesn't say anything about the other areas of life, in which I actually can be very fickle. I don't have a sense of "loyalty," but at the same time I never turn away someone who wants to call me a friend. I'm too nice to push them away, and I can see the good in anyone. My friends generally choose me rather than the other way around simply because I'm too lazy and apathetic about the matter. A few good friends are nice to have, but I'm content to wander from group to group, never quite tying myself down anywhere, or to anyone. Still, I find it easy to get along with basically everybody, with almost no exceptions. Even when I don't like someone, I'm good at pretending otherwise. Additionally, emotions annoy me slightly, but I honestly don't have much in the way of real feelings. I find that I more or less just pretend to have them, and I can control them at will, which is kind of nice. I'm completely blunt and honest in whatever I say....I often have to censor myself because I know my humor might be deemed offensive....I tend to get into trouble because I don't respect authority simply for authority's sake....I am not afraid to joke about anything, and I'm almost never serious, even if I sound like I am....I am constantly laughing, giggling, smiling, etc. - quite obnoxiously...and so on...

Did I mention that I'm ridiculously introspective? Hah, you'd never have guessed that...

Wow...who the heck is going to want to read all this? Whether you've read it all (if you're crazy) or just skimmed, I appreciate any thoughts you're able to share. I simply want to get an outside view on the matter. ENTP or INTP? And, if you deem it worthy of mentioning (AKA you've seen a good number of my posts), what are your impressions outside of this rant?

Oh, dear...

Well, thank you!
 

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This is the problem with this test. It shows what you think of yourself. Not what you really are.

You should get some words from your friends. To see from the worlds prospective. Not yours.
 

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My friends aren't nearly interested enough in this sort of thing to be able to give an accurate description of me. Besides, my personality fluctuates enough that people tend to see varying sides of me, so it depends on the person you ask.

What I can tell you is that most of my friends would say I'm extroverted because I'm so outspoken about my opinions as well as quite crazy given the right environment. Then again, they don't see me for the hours and hours that I spend sitting in front of my computer.
 

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My friends aren't nearly interested enough in this sort of thing to be able to give an accurate description of me. Besides, my personality fluctuates enough that people tend to see varying sides of me, so it depends on the person you ask.

What I can tell you is that most of my friends would say I'm extroverted because I'm so outspoken about my opinions as well as quite crazy given the right environment. Then again, they don't see me for the hours and hours that I spend sitting in front of my computer.
I sit hours and hours in front of my computer and I am an extravert? I break the laws of physics!:tongue:
 

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It seems like you're enough of an E to qualify. The E and I are the most vague and probably least useful of the 4 letters. It can be about level of shyness, or preference, or both. And due to the nature of the questions on the tests, the first letter doesn't really show any deep meaning. I think most of what you wrote has mostly to do with being NTP.

I give good speeches too. I developed a good speaking voice from being in the Marine Corps, but I don't enjoy giving them. I just don't get anything out of it, regardless of stress. I could get over the anxiety if I practiced it enough, and I've thought about doing that just as self-improvement, but then I ask myself, why would I want to.

I used to think before speaking all the time, but I've learned to consider my words a bit more these days. I definitely used to be an extrovert up until high school, and maybe even until I was a junior or senior.

so because of my tendency to like introverts
Why do you like introverts?
 

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It seems like you're enough of an E to qualify. The E and I are the most vague and probably least useful of the 4 letters. It can be about level of shyness, or preference, or both. And due to the nature of the questions on the tests, the first letter doesn't really show any deep meaning. I think most of what you wrote has mostly to do with being NTP.
You're right - I did refer to a lot of basic xNTP traits. I know that much, at least, but I figured that I ought to throw everything out there!

As for E vs. I, I understand that the letters themselves are vague and unimportant, but at this point I'm really looking more at the functions beneath the letters rather than the actual letters, i.e. Ne-Ti-Fe-Si vs. Ti-Ne-Si-Fe.

Why do you like introverts?
I find that extroverts bore me after a while - in romantic relationships, that is. They reveal themselves much more quickly; I like the mysteriousness about introverts. It's like having a well-kept secret all to myself...
 

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You can still be well put socially and be an introvert. Is it more of a show and really thought out or does it come more naturally. I guess I would take a look at your friends. Do you have a lot of friends or acquaintances? Do you like hanging out with them consistently? I know an ENTP personally. Sometimes he can be quiet. Though I've noticed he's a bit of a space invader (without being aware of this). I guess I see that negatively because Im introverted and value my space.
I think you can ask yourself this question: Do you treasure your time with people more or time with yourself more? If you sway towards one or another even just slightly than maybe that will answer your question.
 

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That is a pretty telling sign.

Are you a space invader, agokcen?
I thanked you for tripping me out with your avatar...:mellow:

BTW, I'm extremely quiet sometimes...my family knows this...I can be EXTREMELY silly and outgoing, and then I can just be serious and kinda to myself >.<
But I still count myself as an extrovert because I love being around people and I immediately feel like greeting people when they walk into a room...and i feel energized by social activities...but I do spend quite a bit of time alone
 

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So you're saying that NO other ENTP has been picky about grammatical details!??!?! NO OTHER????? Didn't I make an entire thread about it?!? I still have NO clue why certain "ENTPs" lack the ability to understand their simple, grammatical errors.


I relate to a lot of what you said. Especially the part about being too extraverted for the introverts, and too introverted around the extraverts.

One example of an ideal ENTP = Ne, Ti, Fe, Si, Ni, Te, Fi, Se

Neither you or I match that. That doesn't make us less of an ENTP. You're still relatively young and I believe that the answer will be more clear to you with patience.

Basically, how well do you relate to your dominant function?

I'm going to quote myself:

ENTPs leading function is dependent on their level level of interest. ENTPs, more than any other type, HATE boredom. It is almost a necessity and driving force in our lives to "cure" ourselves from what we consider mundane and meaningless. That doesn't mean that the other types don't get as interested or bored as we do, but they can find happiness or enjoy things easier that ARE NOT that interesting. We just have a VERY hard time doing things that do not give us anything to think about. We want to be mentally stimulated! I've always said that EVERYTHING I've ever needed resides in my brain. I just want the stimuli to get the wheels turning.

I get consumed once I get my interest piqued, and other functions will take over immediately. I am a like a chameleon of personalities. We are so driven by what interests us that we will use whatever function needed to immerse ourselves in it.
Does that make sense? Do you relate to that a lot? Do you think your switching between functions could be related to your Ne switching itself to another function to immerse yourself in something you are interested in?

I'm not trying to make a case as to whether you're an ENTP or not. I just believe that none of the information you gave is indicative to either type. If I were you, I'd study Ti and Ne descriptions.

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Well, I think you're pretty cool.

Grammar-wise I'm a bit torn to judge. I'm huuuuggely attentive to grammar, and know whenever something's wrong, but I don't really bother applying it in my writing/speaking if it's inefficient, or aesthetically awkward. I'd tend to think though that most NT's are grammar nerds, but intuitively I'd think ENTP's might be most sloppy with their expertise.

My impression from your posts, I've noticed you deviate from some ENTP "norms" .. like with the grammar thing, I think I've observed that you take some of your opinions rather seriously (I've noticed so many feminist posts from you, I nearly made a thread about feminism actually) .. I think ENTP's generally take pretty much everything less seriously than INTP's and, well basically any type. I know you said you'll joke about anything and you're never serious (me too, I think that's a very ENTP thing) - but something about your writing strikes me as maybe just slightly more conscientious and self-respecting than the average ENTP. Not to trash the type, I think it's a fun way to be.

That question someone raised about being alone vs. being with people, that was a big deciding factor for me on E vs. I. It's tough with ENTP's because they're so autonomous, yet they're social.

Ne & Ti. How are you evaluating the ordering? Are you thinking in terms of which is stronger, or which comes first, or which assists the other, etc.? I can't give you any sort of scholarly answer here, but for myself I can definitely observe that I perceive and intuit the hell out of everything at lightning-speed almost recklessly, like a little excited kid, and Ti only comes in for the block of important intuitions to sort them out and make something half-sensible out of them. Oh and one thing that helped me with inferior function is the concept that we tend to have more negative experiences of less-developed functions. So in my case that was very black-and-white with Si, I can even observe that Si is something I'm a bit intimidated by - much much more than Fe.

Another thing is - as I realize how disorganized my reply is - your writing is quite eloquent. Maybe that's just your literature savviness at work. I'm good with English too though and I still usually puke my thoughts out in a big mess and am definitely too uncaring to attempt to structure them afterwards. It's that talk-before-you-think thing .. I think that's an important aspect, although you say it hasn't given you a clear answer ....
 

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Here's what I would do [as an INTJ]. Read a handful of the type-specific articles,

ENTP Articles - PersonalityCafe

INTP Articles - PersonalityCafe

Use whatever method you please to keep track of when an article resonates similarities to your day-to-day functioning, thinking, dealing with people and ideas, priorities, mental approach, manifestation of behaviors, yada yada. The section with articles which resonate most frequently to more strongly correlate with who you understand yourself to be, once you've constructively analyzed and compared yourself to the blueprints, = you are teh winnar. Do not exaggerate your opinions while analyzing/comparing, it's ok to go back and re-think stuff, and be patient. You get the gist.

In certain situations or moods of mine, my cognitive function preferences tend to switch their order around to facilitate a method of problem-solving that meets my needs for that time. I will do this to collect more data with which to make the most accurate judgment, but in the beginning and in the end my thought process is strictly INTJ, the primary thing I flex being how I observe, collect and place value upon the information I'm gaining. Sometimes, I will intentionally alter my behavior, ever-so-slightly, as a test with which I continue to collect subjective (personal) and objective (impersonal) information. I will still evaluate all the feedback, input, reflection, etc in an INTJ fashion i.e. mode of thought. Even when I suspend my J function, again, ever-so-slightly, ("Was my perception potentially flawed? Was this information potentially recorded, translated/interpreted in error?" for example) to consider alternate interpretations, the motive is to be able to settle correctly on something which makes the most sense. "...whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth," in essence. I have learned to adjust my cognitive functions from being around an INTP brother, ENFJ brother, ENFP husband, ENFP mother, INTJ father for the majority of my life- their insights, reflections and opinions being more important to me than those of other people, hence my willingness to flex my cognitive functions in order to conduct myself around them in a more understanding, accepting, peaceful, harmonious manner. I make this compromise even though some of them drive me absolutely bat shit crazy -because I love them- without needing to ultimately compromise my personality to be someone I'm not. In this fashion, I get to learn more about myself and others- so, I find the mental exercise to be mutually beneficial.

Essentially, there is not 1 way that every one of a type is going to behave, think, feel, react, etc. There are gradients between all of these lettered functions which have been affected by personal, life experiences. Only you can know these slight differences to see which of your personality characteristics fall into the majority or the minority of your type, but you must be able to comparatively analyze each aspect without bias. It is good that you understand cognitive function preference, but don't let that be an exclusive rule for understanding you.
 

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Hmm.

Now I am going to have to go away and read some INTP descriptions, too.

Ago, you have described me very accurately. Hopefully this is not about development, as I am probably twice your age.:happy:

I'm great at public speaking off the cuff, quite loud, but like my own space, rarely initiate conversation. But if I have a problem to solve, I need to discuss it, I hate working on my own with something.

I have a thing about patterns and grammar: I've a very visual mind, I think it's just visual pattern recognition, to be honest. I'm very precise about my choice of words as well. And picky about other peoples'.

Call me boring? I might have been offended a few years back, now I just don't really respect that opinion, anyway. The accuser just doesn't have the mind to recognise that what I am saying is interesting....

I'm pretty sure that Ne is what I do most, and Ti is my second.

I scored closest to the line on E vs. I when I did the full test, though.
 

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So you're saying that NO other ENTP has been picky about grammatical details!??!?! NO OTHER????? Didn't I make an entire thread about it?!? I still have NO clue why certain "ENTPs" lack the ability to understand their simple, grammatical errors.
Oh, man! I totally did forget about that grammar thread you started. Forgive me, my love!

I relate to a lot of what you said. Especially the part about being too extraverted for the introverts, and too introverted around the extraverts.

One example of an ideal ENTP = Ne, Ti, Fe, Si, Ni, Te, Fi, Se

Neither you or I match that. That doesn't make us less of an ENTP. You're still relatively young and I believe that the answer will be more clear to you with patience.

Basically, how well do you relate to your dominant function?
I'm glad you relate to what I said - perhaps that's a good sign? Anyway, I'm knowledgeable enough about the functions, but I'm just so close with Ne and Ti that it's tough for me to pick which one is dominant. Honestly, it just depends on my mood. Bleh.

I'm going to quote myself:

Does that make sense? Do you relate to that a lot? Do you think your switching between functions could be related to your Ne switching itself to another function to immerse yourself in something you are interested in?

I'm not trying to make a case as to whether you're an ENTP or not. I just believe that none of the information you gave is indicative to either type. If I were you, I'd study Ti and Ne descriptions.

-Forgotten Love Of Your Life
As for your quote of yourself, I can relate to it, yes. I find that I'm very adaptable and can be interested and immersed in most anything. People often tell me, "Oh, you should have gone into [insert career path here]! You're so into it and good at it!" What they don't know is that I'm like that with a lot of things.

The only issue is that I don't mind being "bored." It's not like I sit around without thinking, though. My mind provides its own entertainment all of the time, so I just don't need the constant stimulation that some people do. Would that go along with or contradict what you're saying? I can't really tell.


Well, I think you're pretty cool.
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Grammar-wise I'm a bit torn to judge. I'm huuuuggely attentive to grammar, and know whenever something's wrong, but I don't really bother applying it in my writing/speaking if it's inefficient, or aesthetically awkward. I'd tend to think though that most NT's are grammar nerds, but intuitively I'd think ENTP's might be most sloppy with their expertise.

My impression from your posts, I've noticed you deviate from some ENTP "norms" .. like with the grammar thing, I think I've observed that you take some of your opinions rather seriously (I've noticed so many feminist posts from you, I nearly made a thread about feminism actually) .. I think ENTP's generally take pretty much everything less seriously than INTP's and, well basically any type. I know you said you'll joke about anything and you're never serious (me too, I think that's a very ENTP thing) - but something about your writing strikes me as maybe just slightly more conscientious and self-respecting than the average ENTP. Not to trash the type, I think it's a fun way to be.
This is all extremely perceptive of you. I'm surprised, however, to hear that I apparently make a lot of feminist posts. Do I, really? I honestly didn't think I made that many! It's interesting that you'd say that. Hmmm.

I believe that I agree with you, but in what way, exactly, would you say that I take my ideas more seriously than most ENTPs? I'm just looking for some sort of example; I think you're correct on this. Maybe I'm just so used to people thinking I'm crazy for my ideas that I've learned to present them in a way that sounds serious and as valid as possible. ...Actually, that sounds pretty accurate. Even other ENTPs in real life note that I have a way of presenting my ideas such that they're almost impossible to disagree with - they even express jealousy, at that!

I ought to add, though, that you shouldn't let me fool you with the seeming dryness of some of my posts; if I were speaking instead of writing, there would be giggles interspersed throughout everything I say! I combine goofiness with intellectualness....It's interesting. It again brings me back to the not-fitting-in-anywhere issue; I'm too intellectual for the non-intellectuals, but too goofy for some of the hyperintellectuals.

That question someone raised about being alone vs. being with people, that was a big deciding factor for me on E vs. I. It's tough with ENTP's because they're so autonomous, yet they're social.
This! Yes, yes, yes!

Ne & Ti. How are you evaluating the ordering? Are you thinking in terms of which is stronger, or which comes first, or which assists the other, etc.? I can't give you any sort of scholarly answer here, but for myself I can definitely observe that I perceive and intuit the hell out of everything at lightning-speed almost recklessly, like a little excited kid, and Ti only comes in for the block of important intuitions to sort them out and make something half-sensible out of them. Oh and one thing that helped me with inferior function is the concept that we tend to have more negative experiences of less-developed functions. So in my case that was very black-and-white with Si, I can even observe that Si is something I'm a bit intimidated by - much much more than Fe.
All of the above. It's tough stuff; I'm kind of hoping Grey will drop by and help, because I feel that her understanding of the relations of the functions would be most useful.

Another thing is - as I realize how disorganized my reply is - your writing is quite eloquent. Maybe that's just your literature savviness at work. I'm good with English too though and I still usually puke my thoughts out in a big mess and am definitely too uncaring to attempt to structure them afterwards. It's that talk-before-you-think thing .. I think that's an important aspect, although you say it hasn't given you a clear answer ....
By this, are you implying that I seem more introverted? I can't quite tell what the implications are in this passage. Are you saying my supposed eloquence doesn't seem characteristic of one who speaks before thinking? If so, I suppose that's true...but only in writing. Speaking is another story entirely.
 

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Hmm.

Now I am going to have to go away and read some INTP descriptions, too.

Ago, you have described me very accurately. Hopefully this is not about development, as I am probably twice your age.:happy:

I'm great at public speaking off the cuff, quite loud, but like my own space, rarely initiate conversation. But if I have a problem to solve, I need to discuss it, I hate working on my own with something.

I have a thing about patterns and grammar: I've a very visual mind, I think it's just visual pattern recognition, to be honest. I'm very precise about my choice of words as well. And picky about other peoples'.

Call me boring? I might have been offended a few years back, now I just don't really respect that opinion, anyway. The accuser just doesn't have the mind to recognise that what I am saying is interesting....

I'm pretty sure that Ne is what I do most, and Ti is my second.

I scored closest to the line on E vs. I when I did the full test, though.
As a source of contention and providing an alternative viewpoint to what's already been presented, to me, alfreda seems like either a very well developed ENTP or an ENFJ. I've noticed that well developed ENTPs are often mistyped as ENFJ as a social ENTP will have a well facilitated use of their Fe which would have them appear to be more emotional and hence less contentious. The differentiator between the two would then be a contrast between whether one has better access to Ni or Ti. So I agree with alfreda and in my humble opinion, most younger female ENTPs would do well to adopt similar viewpoints as her. :happy:
 

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This is all extremely perceptive of you. I'm surprised, however, to hear that I apparently make a lot of feminist posts. Do I, really? I honestly didn't think I made that many! It's interesting that you'd say that. Hmmm.
I notice a lot. You thank others for feminist posts too. :p I'm thinking of most recently the "what's it like to be an ENTP female/male" thread(s). I can't remember specific comments.

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I believe that I agree with you, but in what way, exactly, would you say that I take my ideas more seriously than most ENTPs? I'm just looking for some sort of example; I think you're correct on this. Maybe I'm just so used to people thinking I'm crazy for my ideas that I've learned to present them in a way that sounds serious and as valid as possible. ...Actually, that sounds pretty accurate. Even other ENTPs in real life note that I have a way of presenting my ideas such that they're almost impossible to disagree with - they even express jealousy, at that!
It's something about your persistence in discussions. It seems like you really want to get to the bottom of things, not just recreationally but sort of like that's your go-to activity, like you'd rather keep dissecting a topic than lose interest and move on. Which is something that strikes me as more heavily Ti. Of course ENTP's love to persist in arguments .. but INTP's get more entangled in it whereas ENTP's could let go of it at any moment. You don't seem as anal as a lot of INTP's but in the ENTP crowd here I think you're more that way than most.

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I ought to add, though, that you shouldn't let me fool you with the seeming dryness of some of my posts; if I were speaking instead of writing, there would be giggles interspersed throughout everything I say! I combine goofiness with intellectualness....It's interesting. It again brings me back to the not-fitting-in-anywhere issue; I'm too intellectual for the non-intellectuals, but too goofy for some of the hyperintellectuals.
Right, so that's something that can't really be judged properly over the internet. I still think there's something a bit more frantic about how you say things than other ENTP's though - almost like you could be a really high-energy INTP? I agree that it's a tough call, and yeah Grey's input is always good in this.

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By this, are you implying that I seem more introverted? I can't quite tell what the implications are in this passage. Are you saying my supposed eloquence doesn't seem characteristic of one who speaks before thinking? If so, I suppose that's true...but only in writing. Speaking is another story entirely.
Hm. I don't directly think it seems more introverted, just quite organized. So I suppose Ti-Ne could lend itself to that. I'm not really sure what to attribute it to, it could even be a J thing. It might not be relevant.
 
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