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So I just stumble on this post. After 2 days reading the long posts made by OP (I dont pay attention how you guys call it Thread Starter or Original Poster here), I still dont understand what's that all about. Maybe someone can tell me what's the point in that long post, written in systematically list. Sorry for my small lazy brain.
I only get it that we have 5 sub-type based on our cognitive stacks being rearranged in some ways.
 

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So I just stumble on this post. After 2 days reading the long posts made by OP (I dont pay attention how you guys call it Thread Starter or Original Poster here), I still dont understand what's that all about. Maybe someone can tell me what's the point in that long post, written in systematically list. Sorry for my small lazy brain.
I only get it that we have 5 sub-type based on our cognitive stacks being rearranged in some ways.
OP/Thread starter is essentially talking about how to convert between MBTI and Socionics and some common pitfalls. From my understanding, not many people follow Socionics anymore, so I'd say this thread is mostly for people to just talk MBTI and miscellaneous topics. :p
 

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There could have been more clear and condensed explanations.
It's cringing having to see an ISTP contemplating too much on INTJ.
Talk about obsessive.
Psychology can't be proven to be more accurate because it is qualitative and not quantitative.
But psychology can be more plausible than the other.
I think it's shameful that since this person knows 16Personalities and they have failed to mention Assertive and Turbulence.
As a member of 16Personalities, I state that there should have been description on Assertive and Turbulence.
16Personalities explains more clearly.
The Ne Ni SE Si etc business is completely scattered and does not make sense to teach those who want to learn about MBTI.
It would be more clear to use actual words that present each dichotomy.
Socionics does not make sense whatsoever. I have no trust in that psychology.
It's just waffle and babble throughout the whole article.
 

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^ - Learning more about yourself doesn't mean wanting to change yourself. Sure, some people want to be special, but that's not what the MBTI is about. MBTI says that type has a unique role in society and what that role is up to the individual. That's the goal and message of the MBTI, but people of course misuse it to further negative stereotyping. People who do so should be discredited, shunned then ignored and rightfully so.
 

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Do you wanna know how to know anyone's cognitive weaknesses and how to get better at yours?
First you should understand that in neurology the brain always counterweights cognitive abilities.
Second, we all use all 8 cognitive functions
Third, The first two functions of the shadow (Nemesis and Critic) can be used as much powerful as the primary Hero and secondary Parent functions.
Fourth, the conscious Inferior fourth function aspires to the subconscious part of the mind through positivity while the 8th function (Demon) descends into the superego persona. There are four sides to the mind in each type.
For example, my type: INTJ
Ni (The future is more determinable than the past is rememberable)
Te (Types with this have to literally think out loud to think better)
Fi (Get out with your collective unconscious morals which are corrupted by authorities)
Se it is called "Inferior", but it is magic-> aspiring to the subconscious by inverting preference from top to bottom -> Se Fi Te Ni (ESFP) (thus why I look like the blondie in the picture, many doubt it)

Ne (The shadow of INTJs naturally is ENTP) (thus why INTPs get often mistyped as INTJs because of the strong use of Ne and Ti of INTJs and the strong use of Te and Ni on INTPs, although their shadows are ENTJs instead)
Ti (On the shadow, but still very strong to support Te)
Fe (The 7th function is known as the cognitive Blindspot, this is where other people's feelings and dealing with them is something alien to me because the way I work with feelings and emotions is very deep and therefore has to be very private so I don't understand how people do this)
Si -> If gripped at the Demon function one inverts the shadow from top to bottom into the very negative superego -> Si Fe Ti Ne (ISFJ) Don't come with Rules, Tradition, the memories of my past, at all, thank you. This is how cognitive functions goes (there are those who get gripped by logic reasoning and intuit theory, therefore their strengths are mostly on sociability and artistic expression)

The same logic goes for all types, as anyone uses each cognitive function at different varying rates of levels. It is never constant static, but there is certainly a tendency of preference towards a certain configuration, and 8 cognitive functions gives us 16 types. If we mapped 16 cognitive functions we certainly would get a lot more types, but the differences would be way more subtle than MBTI already abstracts. (For those who doubt MBTI's science for being "labeling")
 

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I appreciate the part of the discussion on whether an introvert can become extraverted and vice versa. I've thought about this concept for many years. I'm an introvert working in a people-oriented profession. I've developed extraversion as a job skill. It doesn't change my personality; it just changes my behavior in the way I interact with others on the job.

I appreciate the whole piece, actually, but especially the section mentioned above. Thank you!
 

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Theres also the shot of it flying over your head. But you can re check what I meant and what my motivations are. If so chose to do.
More like you don't know what you're talking about.

Naming someone bc you are comfortable will not, read NOT, justify lack of action if you know whats incoming. Calling me insane will not wipe your tiers when you shall live the carnage. Im military mate. With 4 campaigns under my belt and still cry from what those IEDs n ak47s did to them. You think pretending being a victim today here and blockin a tainted bloke will not make you regret you didnt take this mo seriously as it was presented to you now?

The have mbti. And abilities. Lets jointly support em. Lets lift them up mate. Alpha IS helping. Why do I feel like theres the need for me to remind somethinv as basic as that to you.

Come on.
It's an infantile framing what people are capable of. No need to apply such black and white thinking when that line of thinking has led to multiple periods of dark ages, inquisitions, religious wars, etc.

No thanks. A hard pass on your definitions.
 

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If you were entj sxso, you would NEVER be an asshole. Everything I talked to you about IS flying over your head. Bc the estp sxsp head has a very VERY egoistic brain inside of it.

Now diss me as much as you wish, you 2nd hand liar.
Projection at it's finest.

More projection.

So how much of an egotistical asshole are you? Also, how much of an idiot liar are you as well?
 

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:thinking2: You don't know much about this place, do you.

You sound like you're in a cult dude. Stop harassing me.
 

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Youre a fucken jerk dude. You know it as it is.

Psychopathy that is.

But im telling you. There will be a reality check, similar to this one here. Where your masks will be off.

And then, then they will ask us to pay for all yhe deceit we ever did. And the the pain we caused.

And we will pay mate. In hell.

And there wont be any of your clownings there. Nor my hope for anythung better thsn depression.
What in the heck are you talking about? :shocked: I was saying I don't like framing what people are capable of in terms of good and evil. Someone may seem evil, but you really don't understand their intention(s) and may be trying to good instead, someone may seem good, but is really just out to pander your money from you, which is evil in my book.

In law, it's nearly impossible to prove, but among people intentions should matter more than perception or what seems apparent. You don't know what someone is really capable of until you really get to know a person.
 

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Seeming a victim is again tricks of psychopathy. You are a sensor. Can not even properly associate. You shoukd be grateful of me insulting the shit out of you. It may help you reflect there a little.

But still. Hell is near for ppl like us. Me a sociopath and you a psychopath.
lol Wow. Cabin fever strikes "Semitanned", it seems.
 

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This discussion is a waste of time.

I apologise for being rude. You are what you were born to be. Im worse than you. I chose it out of my free will. I should kiss your feet. And my lios are dirtier than your sweaty n smelly psychopathic feet.
..... lol Okay dude.

Mate. Just change entj sxso to estp sxsp.

Just have the courage to appear as you are.

Lying is the thing that brings in our misery. You know you love me.
Stop talking like you're in a cult trying to recruit me, thanks.
 

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Why? You don't think it's unusual to come to an MBTI forum and start soliciting people? Because that's highly unusual and also against the forum's rules and now I can clearly see why it's against the rules.
 
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