Harry Potter Houses

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Rafiki

Discussion Starter · Aug 19, 2013

Harry Potter fans, I surveyed the results of what comes up on Google when you search to learn about the alignment and relativity between Harry Potter houses and the four Keirsey temperaments. I do not do much associating with the Aristotelian humors as there still remains so much debate over which characteristic go with which name (Sanguine as NF or Sanguine as SP... For me as I must have seen and been convinced somewhere SJ is Melancholic, SP is Sanguine, NF Choleric, and NT Phlegmatic) One member, cranberryplains (favorite Beatles album by the way) mentioned the following:

Gryffindor is NF
Slytherin is SP
Hufflepuff is SJ
Ravenclaw is NT

I agree most with this as in order Bravery, Ambition, Loyalty, Intelligence are the themes or secret passions of each member. As always, there are exceptions to the rule, and many arguments that can be made... too as theory tends to be flexible in its incipient stages. However, all considered, the accentuated characteristics of them all (morally refined, king, "try-hards" seem Hufflepuff, the good knighted pedagogues and secret martyrs are Gryffindors, the cunning devil-may-cares and tactical self-preservationists are Slytherins, and the ingenious hermits seem more Ravenclaw)

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xlr8r

· #2 · Aug 19, 2013

I read and liked the books but as far as I remember the most represented houses are Harry's and Snape's (ie the good and the bad ones). The other two did not leave much trace.

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Pendit76

· #3 · Aug 19, 2013

I don't think all NT's are Ravenclaw. A cunning ENTP could be a slytherin, or a charismatic ENTJ could be a Gryf.

I don't think temperament has any effect on "Potter House" at all. The Houses are contrived as shit. They are based on the ideals of some author and don't have any basis in psychology.Explain to me how the hell Neville is in Gryfindor? He's a fucking wimp!

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I Kant

· #4 · Aug 19, 2013

Gryffindor is Fi.
Slytherin is Te.
Hufflepuff is Fe.
Ravenclaw is Ti.

Maybe.

*Shrugs*

Or maybe...

Gryffindor is Se
Slytherin is Ni
Hufflepuff is Si
Ravenclaw is Ne

...

Ergo...

Gryffindor is Fi and Se, an almost ISFP quality to most of them.
Slytherin is Te and Ni, an almost ENTJ quality to most of them.
Hufflepuff is Fe and Si, am almost ESFJ quality to most of them.
Ravenclaw is Ti and Ne, an almost INTP quality to most of them.

If they represented rational, rather than irrational dominance...

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kay002

· #5 · Aug 19, 2013

Interesting theories. But I think that the magic lies in letting the individual person rather than their MBTI type decide which house they belong in. Not sure if this aligns with anyone's theory but I am a Slytherin and I've known it since I was 10.

The ambition, no regard for the rules, cunning tactical self-preservation. Yep, like, that's definitely me.

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Rafiki

Discussion Starter · #6 · Aug 20, 2013

Pendit76 said:
I don't think all NT's are Ravenclaw. A cunning ENTP could be a slytherin, or a charismatic ENTJ could be a Gryf.

I don't think temperament has any effect on "Potter House" at all. The Houses are contrived as shit. They are based on the ideals of some author and don't have any basis in psychology.Explain to me how the hell Neville is in Gryfindor? He's a fucking wimp!

Neville is a wimp and he lacks the courage that he actualizes in himself by the time the seventh movie plays. I remember him also boldly avenging the death of his parents. NF

And yes, of course this is contrived out of Rowling's head and not Jung's years of experience and dreams and what not...
just play along

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Pendit76

· #7 · Aug 20, 2013

arsenal92 said:
Neville is a wimp and he lacks the courage that he actualizes in himself by the time the seventh movie plays. I remember him also boldly avenging the death of his parents. NF

And yes, of course this is contrived out of Rowling's head and not Jung's years of experience and dreams and what not...
just play along

What you think of as "playing along", I think of it as "willfully agreeing to a theory without debating it". I'm not entirely sure if your theory is right, and it may be influenced by the fact that the majority of NT's are INTPs. The majority of SJ's are ESFJ's, etc. I wouldn't take the temperaments at face value. Perhaps match type to house instead?

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Quernus

· #8 · Aug 20, 2013

Pendit76 said:
.Explain to me how the hell Neville is in Gryfindor? He's a fucking wimp!

Whoa whoa. Personality theory aside, you have unleashed my inner Harry Potter nerd. First of all, have you read the books, or just seen the cinematic travesties?

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monemi

· #9 · Aug 20, 2013

ESTP Slytherin? Can't speak for all ESTP but... No.

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frayonka

· #10 · Aug 20, 2013

arsenal92 said:
Gryffindor is NF
Slytherin is SP

Your list will look more accurate once you have put these other way round. A stereotypical Gryffindor is very SFP and if you will put aside the 'badass' quality that Harry sees in Slytherins and read instead what Rowling has wrote about them, you will probably agree that they could fit better into the NF category.

But of course, even if the Houses can be roughly associated with a temperament, there is no way to get everyone in them to do the same.

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Rafiki

Discussion Starter · #11 · Aug 20, 2013

monemi said:
ESTP Slytherin? Can't speak for all ESTP but... No.

Where else would they go?

The complaisant Hufflepuffs? happy to sit in the shade while their peers bask in sunlight? The quiet Ravenclaw learning and studying for knowledge's sake, the bold, for the good of the world, Gryffiindors?
@Pendit76, when I say play along I maybe meant find how you could support it too instead of doubting it. I think looking at Neville as a wimp is reductive and prima facie, we see his growth and he asserts himself as a rightful hero. It can perhaps be presumed that this ability had lain dormant until brought to surface by the acts of Voldemort. Obviously i agree you shoudl challenge the theory with which you have problems or discord, I didn't mean be a placating pawn, you're right, sorry

but I do think you could look harder and find there is somewhat of a neat trace around the houses.

What was said (sorry for not quoting) about Fi being Gryffindor, Te Slytherin, Ti Ranenclaw and Fe Hufflepuff also makes some good sense (in the general aerial view) although again, I would say an ISFP more focused on greater goods would fit Gryffindor whereas the ISFP whose Se drives him to self-fulfilling, self-absorbed goals would certainly feel more him donning the Slytherin cap

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Rafiki

Discussion Starter · #12 · Aug 20, 2013

frayonka said:
Your list will look more accurate once you have put these other way round. A stereotypical Gryffindor is very SFP and if you will put aside the 'badass' quality that Harry sees in Slytherins and read instead what Rowling has wrote about them, you will probably agree that they could fit better into the NF category. But of course, even if the Houses can be roughly associated with a temperament, there is no way to get everyone in them to do the same.

Is there any specific passage or place you could send me to get a good uncorrupted view of Slytherin?

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Trevur

· #13 · Aug 21, 2013

I am le Gryffindor, but I'd be Hufflepuff if I could choose an alternate house.

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monemi

· #14 · Aug 21, 2013

arsenal92 said:
Where else would they go?

The complaisant Hufflepuffs? happy to sit in the shade while their peers bask in sunlight? The quiet Ravenclaw learning and studying for knowledge's sake, the bold, for the good of the world, Gryffiindors?

What was said (sorry for not quoting) about Fi being Gryffindor, Te Slytherin, Ti Ranenclaw and Fe Hufflepuff also makes some good sense (in the general aerial view) although again, I would say an ISFP more focused on greater goods would fit Gryffindor whereas the ISFP whose Se drives him to self-fulfilling, self-absorbed goals would certainly feel more him donning the Slytherin cap

ESTP are Ti's, not Te's. It's our second function. I'd say we fit in better with Ravenclaw.

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