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1) What aspect of your personality made you unsure of your type?
Well, I heard that mental illness makes typing more complicated so I thought I’d ask for help as a newbie. My therapist diagnosed me with PTSD (Let’s just say I had a . . . particularly more traumatic childhood than the average population). It’s one of the more milder cases though after years of treatment — as I tend to function well most of the time except for when I get into intensely distressing flashbacks of trauma.

2) What do you yearn for in life? Why?

I yearn to learn, analyze, solve and think. I want my entire life to be a collection of complex problems to solve — thinking of it this way kept me sane enough for a long time. My life might have been terrible, but I found comfort in the least that it’s been interesting. I want to share my ideas really — people have recently showed me kindness in my dark times — so I thought I’d repay the world with my more analytical tendencies.

3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.
I was reading quietly on my sofa. I have a lot of memories associated with safety on that sofa. I feel calmer in quiet places and I like it when my mind is intensely at work.

4) What makes you feel inferior?
You know . . . my social skills could be better. I tend to have to go ask certain people what in the world is going on socially. This doesn’t . . . help my shyness.

5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)
Often the number one factor on my decisions is whether it looks interesting to learn, analyze or solve on. I was concerned on not just asking what is true but asking what makes something true. So I went and studied epistemology — the philosophy of the nature of knowledge — to create my own criteria of what makes something true.

I also have to be careful if something might trigger me into trauma flashbacks of course. People? I usually tend to be concerned I don’t hurt anyone with my words actually.

6) When working on a project what is normally your emphasis? Do you like to have control of the outcome?
Control? Eh, I figure it out as I go. My emphasis is what’s interesting — simple as that.

7) Describe us a time where you had a lot of fun. How is your memory of it?
I was in a vehicle watching the places go by as I reflect on life — the past, the present and the future. Usually, I have a habit of analyzing the factors of why certain things could have happened then make a bunch of random ideas on what to do next. I tend to have a certain routine of doing this whenever I’m in a vehicle for some reason.

8) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)
I have something called cross hatching, which is when you put two or more hobbies side and side and compare them. Find similarities, find differences, categorize certain fields together, find ideas that can transfer from one hobby to another, sure.

9) How organized do you to think of yourself as?
Eh, I’m not one of those people who have things scheduled and have to do lists. I just tend to figure it out whatever ideas I have as I go and somehow I still follow through.

10) How do you judge new ideas? You try to understand the principles behind it to see if they make sense or do you look for information that supports it?
Both can be useful, I guess. I put a certain emphasis in trying it to see it for myself and making my own ideas around it.

When you grow up running around from one therapy to another, you figure that some therapies most people think are bull are true, and some that most people think are true are bull. Knowing which was which was important. I went and memorized more than 50 cognitive biases — common logical mistakes — so it’d make sense.

11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself?
Eh, how is harmony being defined here anyway? Not precise enough. I sense somewhat of an attraction towards the first though.

12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?

I tend to think and talk deeply and slowly, really. When everyone is talking at the speed of Usain Bolt and switching topics endlessly, this leaves me easily confused and maybe shy at how I tend to think. I can hang around for a little, but those kinds of conversations overwhelm me easily. So one on one’s nice.

13) Do you jump into action right away or do you like to know where are you jumping before leaping? Does action speaks more than words?
I prefer thinking before leaping. Words speak more than action — I tend to prefer direct words since sometimes I can’t tell some people’s intentions until they tell me directly.

14) It's Saturday. You're at home, and your favorite show is about to start. Your friends call you for a night out. What will you do?
Eh — depends on what’s more interesting. I probably default on more solitary hobbies more and I tend to be attached to my house since new places make me anxious — PTSD hypervigilance doesn’t make going out very pleasant. But if they have something new that fascinates me — I’ll be glad to go.

15) How do you act when you're stressed out?
Well — honestly I’ve used more than 10 therapies in my life and I can use them at any time. I even went and made my own theories and my own treatments. I usually tend to get very withdrawn and panic over irrational fears of no one ever loving or listening to me. That, or I won’t belong somewhere. I wonder why I’ve gotten over many fears, anger and shame from the trauma flashbacks but not these ones.

16) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people?
I can dislike uninteresting conversations, but I don’t dislike people’s personalites as much. Eh — healing the suppressed intense rage over certain childhood abusers and towards my own self have made me extremely patient towards others, Though, I sense I probably wouldn’t be the same without this trauma — as growing up empathy and a developed emotional side has been one of the most lacking traits I had. . . even before the abuse.

17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?
My own trauma with other people with similar experiences. I don’t know why — most of my hobbies are solitary and have a reputation for being hard to understand but I’m fine with learning most of the intellectual stuff alone. With my emotions — I prefer being in a nice community with warm fuzzy feelings and hugs and encouragement.

Eh — but I keep that side of me a secret except online considering how much I avoided it for years in favor of more logic based treatments until I got desperate enough. In Dr. Walker’s typology for trauma, I got freeze-flight which is the most withdrawn and intllectual coping response to trauma and apparently this means my treatment needed to involve talking to people more. The idea sounded . . . horrifying but for some reason when I tried it, I liked it.

Hahaha. . . Don’t tell anyone. Please.

18) What kind of things do pay the least attention to in your life
Eh. There’s not much I don’t pay attention to. I reflect deeply on every area of my life on a regular basis.

19) How do your friends perceive you? What is wrong about their perception? ? What would your friends never say about your personality ?
I tend to come across as more easygoing and gentle. Extremely intellectual and somewhat quirky. Really good at absurdist humor. Eh. . . They don’t really have wrong perceptions than they have a lack of perception about me — since I don’t talk about myself that much.

20) You got a whole day to do whatever you like. What kind of activities do you feel like doing?

Eh. Reading, researching, thinking, learning, analyzing, theorizing, reflecting, writing, discussing and the like. I read books on about every genre and my hobbies change about every few months. A good day is an interesting day.
 

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You seem like such an interesting person, InfinityCube. I related to quite a lot about your therapy and how you learn about the minutiae of therapy really quickly; it really is all about finding your own perspective on the therapy modalities, and having a huge hand in your own treatment.

As for typing, it can be complicated with a pre-existing mental illness, though I am sensing heavy Ti and Ne from quite a lot of your answers and life directions. Your relationship with socialising suggests quite an inferior Fe, and - whilst I know PTSD will affect the way you look at the past - some of the responses to synthesising the past into a present and future perspective (actually, multiple perspectives) make me lean towards Si over Se.

If I had to rate, I'd go Ti >> Ne = Si >>> Fe. That makes me lean towards INTP.

Did you have that in mind? Or another type?
 

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You seem like such an interesting person, InfinityCube. I related to quite a lot about your therapy and how you learn about the minutiae of therapy really quickly; it really is all about finding your own perspective on the therapy modalities, and having a huge hand in your own treatment.

As for typing, it can be complicated with a pre-existing mental illness, though I am sensing heavy Ti and Ne from quite a lot of your answers and life directions. Your relationship with socialising suggests quite an inferior Fe, and - whilst I know PTSD will affect the way you look at the past - some of the responses to synthesising the past into a present and future perspective (actually, multiple perspectives) make me lean towards Si over Se.

If I had to rate, I'd go Ti >> Ne = Si >>> Fe. That makes me lean towards INTP.

Did you have that in mind? Or another type?
Haha. I’m glad you found this interesting.

Hmm. . . I actually had different ideas for what type I am for some time. Though, it’s narrowing down the more I recover. INTP is one of the most possible types — though, from what I’ve experienced, if I am, I’m a more disciplined, detailed and warmer version of one. Eh — though, those extra traits were far from the most natural skills I had when I think about it — and it seems what strengths INTPs are listed as having have been there the longest. But it’s shaky — I’d switch between being too emotional to being too logical during my darker times, and that makes it confusing.

I’m still a little bit skeptical though. Would you mind explaining your thoughts further — at least just a little? Thank you.
 

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ISFP Type 3w4
Thank you, but ah, would you mind explaining this in more detail? I’d like to make a choice on choosing my type while knowing why and it’s hard to believe something when there are no arguments for it.

Hmm, 3w4 is an interesting choice. If you noticed it from me needing encouragement and affirmation, then you have a point there. I’d like to inform you though that I’ve researched extensively on enneagram even more than MBTI, and I’m aware of the 3 fix.

I concluded after several months a 539 tritype or even on a lesser extent, a 359 one, sure. Now that I think about it, the 3 part seems to be emphasized more since I’ve been working on improving my tendencies around it recently so the questionnaire might be biased to show that.

Now if I’m wrong about this, then that would mean my time spending time researching this and applying it to my life for a year and a half is inaccurate. That all the multiple enneagram books and information I’ve read repeatedly over and over again is inaccurate for me. That for some reason the advice managed to radically change my life on every level despite being wrong.

But if you’d like to argue against that, please go ahead.
 

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Thank you, but ah, would you mind explaining this in more detail? I’d like to make a choice on choosing my type while knowing why and it’s hard to believe something when there are no arguments for it.

Hmm, 3w4 is an interesting choice. If you noticed it from me needing encouragement and affirmation, then you have a point there. I’d like to inform you though that I’ve researched extensively on enneagram even more than MBTI, and I’m aware of the 3 fix.

I concluded after several months a 539 tritype or even on a lesser extent, a 359 one, sure. Now that I think about it, the 3 part seems to be emphasized more since I’ve been working on improving my tendencies around it recently so the questionnaire might be biased to show that.

Now if I’m wrong about this, then that would mean my time spending time researching this and applying it to my life for a year and a half is inaccurate. That all the multiple enneagram books and information I’ve read repeatedly over and over again is inaccurate for me. That for some reason the advice managed to radically change my life on every level despite being wrong.

But if you’d like to argue against that, please go ahead.
It’s much more than I can explain verbally, because I often use techniques in psychoanalysis to figure out a person’s MBTI , etc. which doesn’t require picking apart every communication.


Your emphasis is on details throughout this section. Especially the answer 3) shows a very visceral description of the sensory details of the experience, and an energy toward that. (How Jung always emphasizes ‘psychic energy’ in his text) .

From 16) onwards, your focus shifts entirely to values energised primarily through an introverted lens, so inward , in your own ideas, etc, despite the question 16) onward only mentioning ‘other people’ or your interactions with others (the external world)

Though, the reason for you being ISFP is the entire post, from top to bottom.
 

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It’s much more than I can explain verbally, because I often use techniques in psychoanalysis to figure out a person’s MBTI , etc. which doesn’t require picking apart every communication.


Your emphasis is on details throughout this section. Especially the answer 3) shows a very visceral description of the sensory details of the experience, and an energy toward that. (How Jung always emphasizes ‘psychic energy’ in his text) .

From 16) onwards, your focus shifts entirely to values energised primarily through an introverted lens, so inward , in your own ideas, etc, despite the question 16) onward only mentioning ‘other people’ or your interactions with others (the external world)

Though, the reason for you being ISFP is the entire post, from top to bottom.
You have a point there.


Would you mind commenting on feeling and thinking? With PTSD — I have to be aware of both my thoughts and feelings to take care of myself — as having a hyperawareness of what I’m thinking and feeling can help me detect the early signs of an intense flashback to my traumatic childhood. That, or to detect any signs of things that provide me emotional comfory. And so my language reflects that awareness.

I’ve read that T doms become hyperemotional when they’re stressed and F doms become hyperlogical when stressed. But because of the nature of PTSD and my trauma response type — it’s possible to switch between the extremes when stressed.

But you see — after some forms of reflection, I noticed I put more emphasis on logic — on what is true or false than right or wrong. I would go ahead with choosing things with logic more often if I didn’t have to be hyperaware of any possible signs of distress in me that could lead to some emotional breakdown and I do so the more I recover. Also, even during both extreme responses during a flashback, I have more of a need to be aware of my thoughts — the pros or cons — and tend to notice an even more intense distress during the overemotional extremes — hinting a certain comfort with logic.

My additional comfort with being aware of my emotions and creating relationships with others always seemed more like something I was “forced to do” because of my mental illness — even if it makes me happier in the long term.

I’m leaning to Ti dom because of this but if you have any comments, feel free to tell me. Now I’ll have to see if my need to deal with PTSD affects anything with Ne or Se. If anyone can comment on that or need to ask any questions, well, I’ll be waiting.
 

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Hmm. . . I also noticed something.

(Sorry for the long posts. I tend to think this way all the time and I’m not sure how to turn it off.)

It was mentioned that I noticed details, and that’s true, but what type of details are they? Are they Se or Si?

Well, @Bergapten said something about me that made me think. The idea of Ne and Si synthesizing the present and the future. I didn’t really consider that two perceiving functions can work together like this and that this practice could be still considered even with PTSD.

And it makes sense. The #3 question @xraydav mentioned . . . It was not pointing to a pleasant awareness of the present . . . It was pointing to the pleasant memories of the past. Even the quietness was associoated with memories of the past. Se likes new sensory experiences, but I’m attached to my house and sofa because it provides sensory familiarity — not just because I’m introverted.

Even analyzing the past and concluding lessons on it outside my trauma is something I do regularly — when I pointed out that I reflect on every area of my life on a regular basis. When I googled this, it mentioned that INTPs like to explore why things happened in the past (Ti-Si) — and scanning for several possibilites as to why and providing a big picture lesson on it (Ne). ISTPs are more focused on the details of what happened and provides more of a perspective on improvisation in the present (Ti-Se) to conclude a big picture idea for the future. (Ni)

Could it be that if I was an INTP, my Si has become so developed because PTSD requires me to figure out what is distressing me now by analyzing what happened to me a long time ago? Maybe that’s why I’m good at both making ideas and carrying out the practical details of these ideas and tend to enjoy doing both on a regular basis.

Oh.

OH.
 

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Hmm. . . I also noticed something.

(Sorry for the long posts. I tend to think this way all the time and I’m not sure how to turn it off.)

It was mentioned that I noticed details, and that’s true, but what type of details are they? Are they Se or Si?

Don’t apologise, @InfinityCube , these posts are both interesting and informative about you as a person. Essentially, it should show people more facets of you that are crucial for slightly more accurate typing. That, and they seem to be enlightening your own perceptions of the MBTI in relation to you, which is also something you need. You know you best.

...and the detail-oriented nature of your posts suggest Si with Ti. Just as an aside.


Well, @Bergapten said something about me that made me think. The idea of Ne and Si synthesizing the present and the future. I didn’t really consider that two perceiving functions can work together like this and that this practice could be still considered even with PTSD.

And it makes sense. The #3 question @xraydav mentioned . . . It was not pointing to a pleasant awareness of the present . . . It was pointing to the pleasant memories of the past. Even the quietness was associoated with memories of the past. Se likes new sensory experiences, but I’m attached to my house and sofa because it provides sensory familiarity — not just because I’m introverted.

I think probably a bit of it comes from outside the testing scope, as - tentatively - you are more of a past-dweller due to the PTSD. But that combination of Ne-Si is interesting, and does make complete sense. For what it is worth, I also noticed your innate ability to have a realistic sensory awareness of your past, rather than just dwelling on the negative experiences, and categorise them for present use.


Even analyzing the past and concluding lessons on it outside my trauma is something I do regularly — when I pointed out that I reflect on every area of my life on a regular basis. When I googled this, it mentioned that INTPs like to explore why things happened in the past (Ti-Si) — and scanning for several possibilites as to why and providing a big picture lesson on it (Ne). ISTPs are more focused on the details of what happened and provides more of a perspective on improvisation in the present (Ti-Se) to conclude a big picture idea for the future. (Ni)

Could it be that if I was an INTP, my Si has become so developed because PTSD requires me to figure out what is distressing me now by analyzing what happened to me a long time ago? Maybe that’s why I’m good at both making ideas and carrying out the practical details of these ideas and tend to enjoy doing both on a regular basis.

Oh.

OH.

Very possibly, in all honesty. Your tert, due to trauma, may have developed quite rapidly. I had a big hunch you would identify with INTP after a little while, as you are such a clear Ti-dom and ISTP doesn’t seem as good a fit for you.

Oh, and referencing your reservation about how “cold” INTPs can be in an earlier mention - I actually think INTPs can be quite warm, but are not always aware of being able to fully express it. Sometimes they can. That’s a stereotype that doesn’t always fit all. And being a genuinely nice and warm person generally falls out of the scope of personality type, in my opinion.

I hope this helps you find your type. By the sounds of your last two words, you seemed to be getting there.
 
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