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Hi,

I'm an INFJ and out of my three brothers, the one that is ENFP is the only one who ever teasted, taunted or tormented my dog.

Tonight, our family had a small religious thing with several families in our street. My dog likes to smell everyone as they enter, and the only other ENFP in our street that I know of kicked him (not viciously, but it still rates in my book) when he came to smell her - and she smiled at the fact he tried to bite her shoe after that.

I know two people doesn't exactly equal a pattern - but why?!

My brother also does this with little children too. Why do you (he) need to get reactions out of things? I don't get it - animals and kids are there to be loved - they are not toys for amusement. :frustrating:

 

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... maybe joking around yes. define "tormenting"
Tormenting is him applying any set of behaviours to my dog to illicit barking, or any other frenetic display of excitement and anxiety, not typically arrived at by a normal course of action. In short he would do whatever he could to get a reaction of my dog while he was growing. What happens is that when Basil would finally tire and maybe nip at my brother - this allowed him to create a story whereby my dog hated him, was evil, possessed or otherwise deserving of whatever treatment he chose to give it.

The woman from down the street is about 25 years old or something like that, she grew up in a different city and MBTI is the only commonality between her and my brother. She was under no threat whatsoever and is familiar with Basil - still she kicked him. No one else in our street has ever treated him like those two do.
 

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I am that way. I love to tease people and animals.--Break: I just had some freaky deja vu right now--
Anyway, I would never intentionally hurt people or animals and I'm very aware of when I'm crossing the line. In my opinion, you are making a bit of a deal out of it. I'd just leave it alone as I assume it's nothing. That's as much of an answer as I can give since you're asking ENFPs about their behavior that's similar.
 

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I love to tease people. Well, until I sense something bad unfolding, no crossing the line. I used to tease my dog with food a lot and even trap him in his dog house. Of course I've over that now, and looking back obviously it was a childish thing to do. I don't really tease animals. I haven't really been in contact with any recently either.
 

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Shofixti is that person don't are Te???

We woudn't never even think to torment others-And personally it's so hurt me when someone kick animals-then I feel like I could kill that person!! Ohh I hate boorishness!!

But animals sometimes run away from me becouse I love them so much that I could kill that animal with kidness:laughing:. hehe I like abuse with stroke ^_^.

And once I was lightly kick one little cat when I went to school 2 years ago-becouse my dad don't want animal in home and I didn't want that little cat to tie to us._And You know what-someone was plant that Kitty to our hous-And now -It's my favourite creature in whole world-My little bubble Yetii:))
 

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i still doubt what you said sorry, INFJ's sensitivity is the greatest part of their charm for me but i can't imagine an ENFP would kick a dog hard enough to hurt and it seems you might be slightly overreacting- i might do that in a prodding it with my foot kind of way.
also ill tease animals in a joking way but that wouldn't mean that i was being nasty to them, like try and get them overexcited or something in which case they might start barking or give me a nip. basically yes i do find it funny but not in the jerk way that you seem to be putting it as.
 

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How old is your brother?

I read somewhere that the secondary function, which for him would be feeler one, develops later only in teens and early 20s in people but can lag behind in early childhood. I can say that in my case it was very much true. I've developed my Ni way before my Fe, so when I was smaller I have done some things to other living things and other kids that I wouldn't do right now. As a kid my empathy for others was very shallow and short-lived, but my Ni gave me extensive curiosity that needed to be satisfied. So if you typed your brother correctly he will simply grow up and grow out of it. Alternatively you might not have typed him correctly and he may be an ENTP instead of an ENFP in which case he will need to rationalize why it isn't right because he isn't going to feel that it is not right naturally.
 

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About the worst thing I do to my cats is bowl them over and tickle their bellies until they grab my hand and start licking it. I'm generally very pro-animal, to the point that I won't kill house spiders or swat at mosquitos.

That said, dogs are probably my least-favourite animal. When I was a kid, I had a bit of a fear of dogs after a bad encounter with a golden retriever (dog saliva allergy + lung condition = freakish swelling and a week-long hospital stay). That's not to say that I got violent with them; it's just that my instinctual reaction to them jumping at me was a quick palm strike.

That said, I have gotten over this, and learned to love the things. It wasn't too hard to rationalize either: I love people unconditionally --> lots of people love dogs unconditionally --> I learn to love dogs for the people who love them. It also helps that my allergy lessened after hanging around my buddies' German shepherds, labs and collies-sheepdog things.
 

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I would never intentionally hurt an animal.
I kinda have that elmira syndrome thing goin' on.
The only way I would actually HURT an animal would be from hugging it too hard.
With people, ESPECIALLY intelligent INTJs I love to tease.
I don't mean in a playground type way, either.
You can take that how you like.
:tongue:

And like with essay, I won't kill spiders or bugs of any type.
I'll usually pick them up and move them elsewhere.
I really do love just about every living creature.
 

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I'm generally very pro-animal, to the point that I won't kill house spiders or swat at mosquitos.
Yeeaa that's so cool I have that :)!! And remember my snail Johnnie I let it go out to garden-becouse I thought that with nature Walker feel better than in 4 walls.

I don't want to kill even fly!!

dogs are probably my least-favourite animal. .
We had a dog and after when it gone:( we don't want to have dog in home never again-for memory of last doggie and becouse it's problem with dog in house-to keep clean, etc-hahah and who saying that xD-- and just for some other reasons . I just prefer cats, but others dogs don't disturb me-Just I don't wanna have my own dog.

Essay oh so you have probably the best reason to just keeping away from dogs! :-(

The Nymph

The only way I would actually HURT an animal would be from hugging it too hard.
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I'll usually pick them up and move them elsewhere.
I really do love just about every living creature.
It's like me:) and always gather spiders and taking away to garden:proud:
 

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Hhaahha :D I love that too:D

Ooo what a footballer's hottie dishs !!:proud: ( Paraguay vs Spain match) And that annuled goal-That was not fair!!:angry:
 

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First of all: LOVE animals.

Yeah, I tease both animals and people, but I would NEVER do anything to intentionally hurt them. I show animals all kinds of affection, but on occasion I'll call our cat over to run to me wanting to be pet and I'll walk away, lol. Or, I'll play with her ears to make them look kind of like bunny ears, but I don't do it too much because I know that would eventually bother her. Another thing I do occasionally is put my entire hand on her face for half a second. This probably looks mean to an outsider, but it really isn't.

When I was out of the country, we had a lot of dogs, and I'd pretend to kick them (I was actually light tapping them with my foot) in a joking manner. Same goes to little children. I would NEVER EVER hurt them and if it ever appears like it it's purely pretending and for the sake of humor.

If they're developed ENFPS, they really are just joking around. I can't imagine an ENFP actually having the drive to make something like an animal or child suffer.
 

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Thank you :laughing:
It is actually very theraputic to read your responses. When you talk of loving animals, I can't help but feel included... er, somehow. Yes, the title of this thread was as aggressive as I can be.

My brother is 23 now, but perhaps it is just a matter of immaturity, and a fluke occurance in the case of my neighbour. Considering the friction between Ni+Fe vs Ne+Fi, I should probably read your forum more often because exposure to the wider array of ENFP's gives me hope for him!

I think one of my biggest struggles is that he hates explanations for things, in as much as everything related to me comes with a hypothesis attached - I think he feels like I am secretly/overtly trying to trap him. But all I want is to fit this odd puzzle piece into the bigger picture.

Peace.
 

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I was a terror to my pets as a little kid. >.> I used to chase the cats around the house....basically get them as wired as I usually was then burn all the excess energy in a wild frenzy of insane cackling and racing. But yea...with the others, there's a line. Teasing but not harming. It has alot to do with wanting attention. I still provoke my close friends, but I limit how much I tease animals.
 

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I think one of my biggest struggles is that he hates explanations for things, in as much as everything related to me comes with a hypothesis attached - I think he feels like I am secretly/overtly trying to trap him. But all I want is to fit this odd puzzle piece into the bigger picture.
My mom's an INFJ. She does that. It's annoying. I don't like it when people ask me questions about my motives...mostly because I don't have easily explainable answers lmao
But she hasn't really seemed to understand in times when I have tried to explain them to her. But that's just her, I suppose...
 

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I remember when I was a little girl, probably about 5 years old, I used to put my cat in my Barbie case. I would buckle it shut. Then I would put it under one of the cushions on the couch, and sit on it. I remember one day being caught for doing that. I had no explanations. :mellow:
 
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