Do you talk a lot? Go on your phone a ton
Hahaha, phones in the classroom. That was a startlingly foreign concept to me when I read it. I also walked uphill both ways...Do you talk a lot? Go on your phone a ton
I'm not trying to be offensive, just sincerely curious. I understand not feeling motivated without a challenge, but did you ever feel like maybe you didn't exhibit a certain integrity that scholars should have? People study to learn the material, not to get the grade. Did you ever feel like your methods in high school were disingenuous?Currently, I'm in my first year of university, but I assume this is in the context of high school, so I'll discuss that. I'm an ENTJ, by the way.
To begin, almost all my classes in high schools were advanced classes (I took all the ones my school offered). Plus, my grad class had quite a few smart people, making it my high school's most competitive class. For instance, our tenth ranked student would have been top three easily (maybe even first), with the same marks, in one of the other grad classes.
So, I'm assuming most of you would expect the classes would be very quiet and focused, if it was so competitive? Well, no, they were probably the opposite, and I personally was a big factor in that. A lot of us found the material very easy and could get very high marks without putting in much effort. In fact, admitting you studied would often ruin the validation of how high you scored in the eyes of others. So, we wouldn't pay attention in class and would just talk the whole time, often quite loudly. Sometimes, we'd even hit each other and shit like that (it was all guys in these groups). Of course, the more studious in the classes didn't like this, but we also didn't care. And because we were the top students most teachers didn't care enough to get mad at us for not paying attention.
I was also known for arguing with teachers (I even found out it wasn't unusual for me to be brought up in staff meetings). For example, if I disagreed with teacher's marking (which was often) I would always dispute it (more than probably any other student). And I usually got the marks too, which was nice. In any sort of social studies class I would often state my opinions on what was being discussed (when it was contextually appropriate), which tended to be quite different from the teacher's and the classes'. But most teachers appreciated this and usually encouraged the discussion. I could also be a bit of a smart ass when dealing with teachers, but it was done in jest. Because, despite all these traits, most of the teachers did like me. It was obvious I cared about doing well (despite not being the most traditionally focused student) and I feel some teachers felt me and a lot of my friends had been let down by the school system not providing an appropriate challenge. Also, I showed off a lot of personality in class, while most students didn't, so I suppose it was refreshing in its own way.
Overall, it was a fun experience, especially when compared to now. Nowadays, I have no friends, so I have nobody to talk to in lectures (just play poker on my tablet, while taking notes) and being a top student actually requires me to study and do homework, usually every night.
No, it's a perfectly reasonable question.I'm not trying to be offensive, just sincerely curious. I understand not feeling motivated without a challenge, but did you ever feel like maybe you didn't exhibit a certain integrity that scholars should have? People study to learn the material, not to get the grade. Did you ever feel like your methods in high school were disingenuous?
EDIT: For example, you said that studying would take away the validation of one's score on a test. I personally don't see it that way at all. Studying determines how long one will retain information. It's important, because it allows you to grow a wealth of knowledge, a filing cabinet of bits of learned material in your brain. Store it for later, not for a test.
So your view is that people need to think critically as opposed to just memorizing? If so, I would agree.So, I hope that cleared up my views on these things. I honestly do value learning and spend most of my free time learning about things that interest me. And that's why high school was easy for me. Yet I saw some people studying by just memorizing things to get them through and never felt like they understood why any of it made sense. And the material was so easy that I thought that there's no reason someone should need to study this to do well.
I realize this whole post may seem contradictory to my last, but it's not if you really understand my view on this (which I hope I made clear).
Essentially, yeah. But high school is set up in a way to discourage that, which is why so many go from getting As in high school to getting Cs in university.So your view is that people need to think critically as opposed to just memorizing? If so, I would agree.