i didn't mean it that way.Hi
I don't think that being manipulative and twisting words have necessarily anything to do with certain types. And this is said in a nice tone - that view seems unfair to ESFJ and ENFJs.
It could be that she's just got a mean streak to her.
You are right, you can't say that all people in a type are drama queens. But I do understand why that was said about ENFJ's.I disagree with this comment. I am not a drama queen, in fact I like things to be easy. The 2 ESFPs in my life are massive drama queens too so there is no room for me to be one.
Uhhh...no haha. You're mind-reading.were you hurt? offended? LOL sucks for you. :crazy:
Oh just in case, I didn't mean it in a "they like to start conflict" kind of drama queen...I disagree with this comment. I am not a drama queen, in fact I like things to be easy. The 2 ESFPs in my life are massive drama queens too so there is no room for me to be one.
I agree with that. I don't think ENFJ's feelings are any darker, either. ENFJ's and ESFJ's differ in the simplicity of their motives. While it was mentioned that ESFJ's tend to think of the "here and now," I'd disagree and say that ESFJ's think of the "top layer" of the issue. They are planners, just like ENFJ's. However, they give priority to what they can see first and what is first and foremost crucial, while ENFJ's tend to get lost in the general idealism of whatever it is they're thinking about or get overwhlemed by their intuitiveness when it comes to listing tasks. ESFJ's know where to start, and they are instant caregivers.Spot on about ENFJs, although not sure about the raising money part - I think ENFJs are more like the counsellors to others and want to help people 'psychologically' - to help people FEEL better about themselves.
That doesn't sound at all the way you stated it. Though it clears it up for me. ENFJ's tend to sulk more into their feelings, take their feelings and run with them into their clouds intuitively. They can still delegate when/where it is appropriate to express them, and while they like praise and someone to help them feel better, ENFJ's aren't one of the types that are most likely to run around crying and talking to every person or make a big deal out of little things. We are extroverted feelers who are used to being hurt and a witness to drama, especially since most ENFJ's tend to place such high hopes and focus on humanity.Oh just in case, I didn't mean it in a "they like to start conflict" kind of drama queen...
I meant more like...They add a lot of "excitement" to otherwise boring or normal situations. Like they can paint speeches in many colors and stuff... They add that zest/spark to life, ya know?
Very fun to be around. :tongue:
I was thinking this too.That doesn't sound at all the way you stated it.
I can so relate to this!ENFJ's aren't one of the types that are most likely to run around crying and talking to every person or make a big deal out of little things. We are extroverted feelers who are used to being hurt and a witness to drama
I agree.We, however, are also structured and know when it is appropriate to be dramatic in an extroverted environment. We are social butterflies by nature.
My husband has often accused me of sulking, but that is my way of dealing with anger or hurt. I retreat and become withdrawn because it isn't in my nature to shout and scream. I have to do something with those feelings so I wear that "Don't talk to me unless you want to have venom spewed on you" look, and open and shut cupboard doors loudly etc.ENFJ's tend to sulk more into their feelings, take their feelings and run with them into their clouds intuitively.
I will be honest and say that I don't know anything about other personality types.The differences are huge.
ESFJs are more realistic, practical, and focused on the here and now. They are more focused on what can be done now versus what could be done in the future. You could imagine them as the stereotypical caregivers, giving the old lady next door chicken noodle soup. They are pretty happy and optimistic for the most part.
ENFJs are drama queens, have very idealistic view points and visions, darker emotions, and can be quite giving/sacrificial. I feel like their speech patterns are more complex and moving, as they can be very powerful orators to stir people's emotions. They are probably interested in things like raising money to end world hunger (global vision) versus making chicken noodle soup for you (here and now).
lol i think you got it all wrong and it's because my thread lacked detail. so there. everything's clear.Uhhh...no haha. You're mind-reading.
You said she was manipulative and twisted people's words. I said that was unfair to generalise ENFJs.
You said you didn't mean it that way. I got slightly confused so I asked you what you meant by it - so to be very clear - 'what else could 'manipulative and twisting words' mean?