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You know, besides coming on to this forum and posting. /shot

I mean, dealing with a fair bit myself, I'd like to know;

1) When your first (as far as you can remember) existential crisis was
2) What triggered it
3) How you dealt with it
4) How often you get them (assuming you still do), and maybe
5) How people of other types deal with it

I was just coming on to 13 and in the middle of listening to Saeglopur when I actually first faced an existential crisis and, honest to somebody, I have no idea what brought it on - my memory had pretty much been degenerating rapidly from just before. I read a lot of philosophy up till that point and was coming out of some sort of depression/apathy stage. tbh I have no idea how I dealt with it. It wasn't exactly a crowning moment, couldn't sleep straight for weeks. Now it's kinda like something to think about when I'm bored. People don't generally talk about their existential crises (not to me, at least), and nobody else I know irl is INTP, so I'm not sure how people usually deal.
 

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Quite often, someone just needs another person to talk to. Otherwise, we'd all might end up like Tom Hanks and Wilson in Castaway.
 

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Had them since I was around 6 when I first saw some people die on the streets. Pretty much got used to them and resolved it by playing games all day. Nowadays those kind of thoughts don't bother me much.
 

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I'm in a mild state of existentialism almost every day. It's not really a crisis... just a prolonged and unpleasant malaise. I haven't dealt with it, I just keep on living, and then I suppose one day I won't. I've never really felt assaulted by existential thoughts, and if I ever was I just forgot about it.
 

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Quite often, someone just needs another person to talk to. Otherwise, we'd all might end up like Tom Hanks and Wilson in Castaway.


WILSON!!!


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hehe that looks like my kitteh ^_^

Anyways, back to the OP:

1) When your first (as far as you can remember) existential crisis was
Uhhh I say it started when I was around 14/15, but I just brushed it off. It has now come back full blown with a vengeance.

2) What triggered it
Alone time... and plenty of it. Why do I have to question life's meaning?!

3) How you dealt with it
I don't really know if I'm dealing with it per se. I am getting "help" though through therapy. It's actually quite refreshing to hear another's views on the matter, and being heard out.

4) How often you get them (assuming you still do)
It never goes away... Everyone really experiences this as a second nature, but most people are able to push it away with the illusion of meaning.

5) How people of other types deal with it
Not applicable.
 

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Existence is what you make of it. Decide what is meaningful to you and you'll never have to worry about meaninglessness.
 
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Existence is what you make of it. Decide what is meaningful to you and you'll never have to worry about meaninglessness.
I think that's where my problem is. I'm not good at making subjective decisions; the subjective aspect of meaning got me stumped man...
 

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Everyone really experiences this as a second nature, but most people are able to push it away with the illusion of meaning.
I'd agree that meaning is an illusion when people make a faith-based decision to assign objectively true meaning to their experiences. I don't think that meaning is an illusion if it is understood by the the one experiencing it that the meaning is wholly subjective.

Subjective meaning essentially asserts that "X is meaningful to me, because X is meaningful to me".

Truth doesn't get much more evident than a tautology like the above. I'm of the opinion that people should stop worrying about living according to some speculative objective standard of meaning, and instead should place their focus on their subjective inclinations and their personal sense of value/meaning.
 

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I think that's where my problem is. I'm not good at making subjective decisions; the subjective aspect of meaning got me stumped man...
It's a pretty tricky concept to nail down, TBH.

The best way I can think of to explain it would be either through the definition I gave above, or through pointing out that once you've abandoned (or at least reflexively analyzed) all preconceptions about the way you "should" experience your existence, you will have arrived at the subjective meaning for that situation.

Subjective meaning is natural. You don't find it by searching for it; you find it by ceasing to search for objective meaning.
 
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I've had a few.

There's really no one for me to talk about it with, never has been.

The first was real one around 18, I just stopped talking to people for a few months. It was over the summer. I didn't have friends that I felt really attached to so I stopped hanging out with my little lame group.

I was different when I came out of it, I became really extroverted afterward actually but I wasn't hiding anything about myself. I said and did whatever I wanted (outside of the completely absurd) for the most part, and then I made friends I actually liked. They were also weird like me, but fun and more extroverted so I was going to a lot of parties and meeting all different types. I had been pretty unexposed until then, even though I felt like I'd already seen it all.

I never really tried to talk to them about the existential crisis though. For me I experience things I can't put into words during those times, so I don't try to but I guess I can sense when someone has experienced something similar.

Eventually I got bored with those people too, this happens to me with most people. I bounced around and made friends with different types, found myself in a few different cliques and then dated a few people. I didn't date anyone until I was 19.

All of it felt right until around 23. I realized(or just admitted) that I had still been hiding a huge part of myself and I couldn't do it anymore. Existential crisis number 2, I totally dropped off the face of the planet. I just couldn't talk to my friends anymore, I had absolutely nothing to say.

That probably lasted for about 2 years, I still haven't made new close friends. I was dealing with my own problems, mostly, but I was also getting exhausted by watching people repeat the same ridiculous patterns in their lives and expecting the same reaction from people every time(sympathy). I couldn't deal with it, I really cared about some of my friends but they were more self-destructive than I realized, I was out of that phase completely and I couldn't even pretend to offer support after watching make the exact same mistakes repeatedly and taking no responsibility for it. I felt like I was the only one who could see it and I couldn't deal with. At all.

So here I am now, without any close friends. I made a decision to move out of state last year and it's still going to happen but I'm saving money, this is when my life is scheduled to "begin again" o_O

Forums like this are the only place I can talk about "INTP things" so when I'm feeling disconnected or like I'm not fully out of existential crisis mode I choose this over actual socializing.

Sorry, I just realized I didn't use your list u____u
 

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but I was also getting exhausted by watching people repeat the same ridiculous patterns in their lives and expecting the same reaction from people every time(sympathy). I couldn't deal with it, I really cared about some of my friends but they were more self-destructive than I realized, I was out of that phase completely and I couldn't even pretend to offer support after watching make the exact same mistakes repeatedly and taking no responsibility for it. I felt like I was the only one who could see it and I couldn't deal with. At all.
Yeah, totally relate to this. I had one of these epiphanies a few years ago and I was just like "no mas", this is not my problem, I love you guys but nooooope... I have better things to do than clean up after your messes.

Maybe it's a common mid-20s thing.
 

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You know, besides coming on to this forum and posting. /shot

I mean, dealing with a fair bit myself, I'd like to know;

1) When your first (as far as you can remember) existential crisis was
2) What triggered it
3) How you dealt with it
4) How often you get them (assuming you still do), and maybe
5) How people of other types deal with it

I was just coming on to 13 and in the middle of listening to Saeglopur when I actually first faced an existential crisis and, honest to somebody, I have no idea what brought it on - my memory had pretty much been degenerating rapidly from just before. I read a lot of philosophy up till that point and was coming out of some sort of depression/apathy stage. tbh I have no idea how I dealt with it. It wasn't exactly a crowning moment, couldn't sleep straight for weeks. Now it's kinda like something to think about when I'm bored. People don't generally talk about their existential crises (not to me, at least), and nobody else I know irl is INTP, so I'm not sure how people usually deal.
My first existential "crisis" was when I was 12. It finally clicked for me that we're specks within infinity. And for a few seconds I was like ...
&&%F*[email protected]^%%$$(*:">_)*(*!!!!!!!

And then I calmed down.
 

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My life for as long as I can remember has been an existential crisis.

I did have a moment where the realisation of my mortality kicked me in the nads, thanks to a b-rate movie with alien thingies that kept human brains inside them.

I can ask a metric shit tonne of whys, but I’m not so hot when it comes to answering anything. No frame of reference to be had, I play hide and seek with myself in the dark.
 

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My life for as long as I can remember has been an existential crisis.

I did have a moment where the realisation of my mortality kicked me in the nads, thanks to a b-rate movie with alien thingies that kept human brains inside them.

I can ask a metric shit tonne of whys, but I’m not so hot when it comes to answering anything. No frame of reference to be had, I play hide and seek with myself in the dark.
I totally actually pictured that.

That doesn't say as much about you than it does about my active imagination.
 

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1) When your first (as far as you can remember) existential crisis was
2) What triggered it
3) How you dealt with it
4) How often you get them (assuming you still do), and maybe
5) How people of other types deal with it

- I've been through existential crisis, around your age as well. It feels like every thing I did was useless, days was a chain of insignificance.

- I dealt with it by gaining skills, I refine my drawing and writing skills, and focus my self with school work and what not. With writing, I finally could understand my desire, what my values are(and believe me, as an INTP its hard to know your own values), and what I want to do with my life. But you could do other things, sports maybe, or camping.

- Around this period of time, I will have one or two times a day. It depends on the situation though.

- NF's will deal with existential crisis via religion. Most of my family members are feelers, INFP, ENFJ, and ESFJ, after my dad died I'm the only thinker left.
 

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1) When your first (as far as you can remember) existential crisis was
2) What triggered it
3) How you dealt with it
4) How often you get them (assuming you still do), and maybe
5) How people of other types deal with it

- I've been through existential crisis, around your age as well. It feels like every thing I did was useless, days was a chain of insignificance.

- I dealt with it by gaining skills, I refine my drawing and writing skills, and focus my self with school work and what not. With writing, I finally could understand my desire, what my values are(and believe me, as an INTP its hard to know your own values), and what I want to do with my life. But you could do other things, sports maybe, or camping.

- Around this period of time, I will have one or two times a day. It depends on the situation though.

- NF's will deal with existential crisis via religion. Most of my family members are feelers, INFP, ENFJ, and ESFJ, after my dad died I'm the only thinker left.
Oh god... yes.
I've been there, too. Unfortunately.
Even when I look back on it, it seems like it was all just one blur (because, well... it was all a blur.)
 

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Oh god... yes.
I've been there, too. Unfortunately.
Even when I look back on it, it seems like it was all just one blur (because, well... it was all a blur.)
Wait, you've been there, meaning you no longer are? If so, then how did you get out of it?
 
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