ISFP, 9w8/4/5 sp/sx, Ravenpuff
I don't think that the woman proposing means the man did not talk about his intentions with her. Talking about your intentions is something that should happen considerably before a proposal no matter who is doing the proposing!? Like, if you're a guy and your proposing you should probably know how serious your partner is about the relationship before you propose, and that should be true the other way around as well.do you have a daughter? and even if you don't have a daughter.
Would you respect a man who did not take the initiative in the relationship and did not talk about his intentions with her?
I think that men like that don't care about their daughters..
Like, once upon a time asking someone to marry you was similar to like... asking them to "go steady" or asking them for a monogamous and sexual relationship. But like... that was the 19th century and before.
This is a serious false equivalency rooted in some seriously outdated beliefs.
Yeah, it's fine for a woman to do the asking out. I'd personally love it, as a man who would prefer for the woman to be in the driving seat of the relationship anyways. It doesn't mean I don't respect her, actually the opposite: I'm happy to adapt to her needs and time table (I'm not just an introverted P-type, I'm an introverted F-dominant P-type: why would I want to be in charge!?) It also doesn't mean I won't communicate my desires or intentions, 'cause oh my god I will talk about my feelings endlessly given the chance.
That's, like, assuming that people don't have pre-marital sex while in committed serious romantic relationships!?! Or even have serious committed romantic relationships prior to marriage!? Or have pre-marital sex outside of serious committed romantic relationships!? Or that marriage is about pro-creation!?! What century do you come from!?!This is not related to some era, this is timeless.
People don't worry about it anymore because there is contraception.
Ok, wait, I shouldn't judge, if you actually ARE a time traveler from the distant past then welcome to the post-modern age. We do things a little differently, but it does have it's own internal logic that actually does work out for everyone involved as long as people play nice, and we've gotten to a point where people generally play nice more than not. It's a nice age, relative to the distant past anyways, I hope you enjoy it. If you need a tour guide I'm sure we can arrange for it.