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How does an ENFP (or other F types) go to the figurative "dark side?"

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Not that I want to myself, but several online descriptions talk about how an ENFP would be manipulative if they went to the "dark side." Not to mention that some of the most bloodthirsty killers in history such as Che Guevara were widely purported to be ENFPs themselves.

This has actually been bothering me for a while. How would ENFPs even test as Fs in the first place if they were so fucked up as people? The questions on MBTI surveys that determine whether you're an F or a T are the ones that say things like "how sympathetic are you to other people" or "do you tend to provide emotional support" or other similar questions. How do people with seemingly no conscience or regard for other human life such as Hitler (INFJ) indicate a preference for Feeling over Thinking? Would an ENFP that goes over to the "dark side" still be an "ENFP"? Such a change of personality would have to mean a sort of abandonment of one's ideals or conscience.
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Not that I want to myself, but several online descriptions talk about how an ENFP would be manipulative if they went to the "dark side." Not to mention that some of the most bloodthirsty killers in history such as Che Guevara were widely purported to be ENFPs themselves.

This has actually been bothering me for a while. How would ENFPs even test as Fs in the first place if they were so fucked up as people? The questions on MBTI surveys that determine whether you're an F or a T are the ones that say things like "how sympathetic are you to other people" or "do you tend to provide emotional support" or other similar questions. How do people with seemingly no conscience or regard for other human life such as Hitler (INFJ) indicate a preference for Feeling over Thinking? Would an ENFP that goes over to the "dark side" still be an "ENFP"? Such a change of personality would have to mean a sort of abandonment of one's ideals or conscience.
Che Guevera was was an INFJ.
I never went properly dark side but there was a time in my life when I considered myself to be misanthropic. What caused it was trauma. I was abused for years and it made me hate people. I used to wonder whether or not I would actually shoot up my school. I don't think I would have ever gone through with it, but I was in a dark place.

I was burnt out, I had an existential crisis and I was so so angry at the world for treating me so badly. So yeah, that's one theory. If it had continued and I hadn't got help, I hate to think where I'd be now.
Same here. It caused more health problems which later caused people to mistreat me and discriminate me and lately try to starve me. Though I'm more xenophobic, than misanthropic. I met plenty of okay people. It's the wicked other that I hate.
Also, there's an effect of gathering increased information about people and finding new and new alien depravities and alien threats.
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The only ENFP's I know are able to manipulate like masterminds.
How do they do that?
They make you feel guilty for reasons that, when you think logically, should not make you feel that way. That make it sound like they are offended rightfully, and that you're a bad guy: They only do it to people they know. I don't put up with that crap.
Could you give some example?
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