So after 1.5 working days, I've yet to be fired. This is just weird.
I mean it definitely could be. My boss has wasted countless money for the agency. The upper management is new to the agency due to a scandal, so they're looking to clean out the agency. Maybe this is just a cooling off period while they fire him. Who knows though. I really wish they'd let me know something other than "sit at home and hang tight".Hm ... perhaps you are lucky and the management is going to fire him instead of you, if your bunch of reasons is well-written. I don't have exactly similar experiences in my past, but usually I write to the top management why I couldn't proceed as it is and then, after nothing happens, I quit. But only from part-time jobs, in the main time I am my own boss.
I've been in similar situations before but actually I've never fired (yet, although it might happen soon...). In my 9 jobs until date, i finished contract in 7, 2 I quit because I had another job (but no problems there). I had problems with my boss in two, in one I finished contract without having another job yet, in the other I finished contract and moved to another job immediately.Well a little while later he told me to go home. He said he'd call at 10am the next day. Looks like upper management has taken up the case, but in the meantime it sounds like they locked my accounts out and everything and are preparing to fire me. The 10am call turned into, "Well we're waiting on stuff." It's almost 4:30PM and I have yet to hear back. I guess technically I'm still employed and have been sitting around the house doing stuff, but I really just want this to be over.
Thanks. That's the plan for me and I really think the delay in actually firing me is upper management doesn't know what to do since I technically did do everything by the books and went through the chain of command. I've had stellar performance reviews in the past to the point of being 1 of 2 people who got merit bonuses for the year and also there's a clear paper trail of multiple instances of my boss's incompetence and also all the corrective actions my boss took in the write up were subsequently reversed in writing literally a week later by his boss. What happens is an epic business case study and honestly I just want a resolution. Who knows right now, but I'll report back and, if I'm fired, the first thing I'm going to do is sit down and reflect on the last 3.5 years at this job, especially the last 6 months. Literally all this could be material for an Office Space 2 sequel.So, first, cheers. That's very important. Keep your energy and health high, whatever it happens. Second, my suggestion is to fight back and don't let be put down ever. Better dead than slavery.
They cant fire you without just cause and proper steps.So after 1.5 working days, I've yet to be fired. This is just weird.
Except this is Texas and it's at will employment. They literally can fire you for any reason. Really the only leg you have to stand on is the employee handbook creating a contract between you and the employer. If the employee handbook has procedures and they don't follow them, then you can get them for wrongful termination. Otherwise, this is the "land of freedom," which basically makes you SOL.They cant fire you without just cause and proper steps.
Especially if they have an HR dep.
Any and I mean ANY change in your job state will allow you the option to decline it
and claim severance. If you want to leave that is.
Yeah good old Texas.Except this is Texas and it's at will employment. They literally can fire you for any reason. Really the only leg you have to stand on is the employee handbook creating a contract between you and the employer. If the employee handbook has procedures and they don't follow them, then you can get them for wrongful termination. Otherwise, this is the "land of freedom," which basically makes you SOL.
I'd publish the email with redacted information, but am waiting on the investigation to complete. I finally got word from my boss's boss and actually have a halfway clue what going on. I've finally been told I've been suspended with pay during the investigation. My boss did a lot of shady stuff, including some possibly backhanded deals that ultimately backfired and cost the agency around $50-100,000 in wasted money. That was noted in my email so I have done a little research and see that it's standard to do this during investigations. The question is, how long the investigation will take. I have a phone call meeting at 3PM, so I guess I'll find out more there.Yeah good old Texas.
I remember when I lived there ...now this is going back to the mid80's
but even still....well minimum wage was $3.25.
Side note after rereading a few things here.
Why give the guy all "1's" on your review of him?
That automatically would make me discredit your input
due to totally leaning clearly to a dislike of the man as appose to
an accurate assessment of him.
I get he may even be all "1's" but the visual on looking at that would speak volumes on
how you feel as appose to how it may or may not actually be.
When I rate my staff know-one gets 1's or 10's .
Highest I give is an 8 maybe a 9 lowest is a 3 maybe a 2.
Extremes seem unlikely.
Thats awesome my man.I'd publish the email with redacted information, but am waiting on the investigation to complete. I finally got word from my boss's boss and actually have a halfway clue what going on. I've finally been told I've been suspended with pay during the investigation. My boss did a lot of shady stuff, including some possibly backhanded deals that ultimately backfired and cost the agency around $50-100,000 in wasted money. That was noted in my email so I have done a little research and see that it's standard to do this during investigations. The question is, how long the investigation will take. I have a phone call meeting at 3PM, so I guess I'll find out more there.
Actually, I'm starting to hate being in limbo and not having an answer, but yeah I do find this a rare unique thing considering who literally does what I did (I guess that's the ENTP in me). There's literally new upper management tasked with cleaning up the corruption in the agency, so I have the paper trailer, this could end very badly for my boss. If I went to the papers it would be another sh*t storm like earlier this year: https://www.sacurrent.com/the-daily/archives/2017/07/07/two-more-tabc-officials-bite-the-dustThats awesome my man.
I love going through that kinda thing (less the financial scare when my kids needed me).
Well I know this one item for sure...no matter where you are from and/or work? Money talks.
If this guy is losing and more importantly costing the company money AND this can be
tracked? Well...he will lose. At that point it will be up to him to deflect the damage
down his chain of command. Of which it either becomes a he said she said..
and/or whoever has the better paper trail wins! I dont know the group at all
but it may also come down to who is who's best pal or friend outside of work.
I love for this kind of confrontation. It makes me feel alive.
Good luck my friend.
Let me know what happens if you feel you would like to.
Try and have some fun with it. This stuff doesn't happen all that often.
Yeah, you are right. The waiting is hard. These kind of items always happen inActually, I'm starting to hate being in limbo and not having an answer
Then again, if my boss was truly doing shady stuff, there could be criminal wrongdoing. He did one time try to shut me up with that PC refresh vendor when I asked about labor estimates so I could put together a schedule for my trip planning. When they said they bid for 30-45 minutes per user, I said that would only get us through like 1/4 of the steps, but we could plan accordingly. My boss literally muted the speakerphone because it was a conference call and told me to keep quiet because he was trying to get more work out of them.Yeah, you are right. The waiting is hard. These kind of items always happen in
3 to 4 steps with a day or two in between each step. Us, as ENTP do not typically
handle that well as we have already seen the whole picture and can surmise the
one or two outcomes available. Its like sheesh ..just pick one already and
lets move on with life here people!
Interesting. So your company has a policy where byBasically, he was trying to withhold key information from them so they'd underbid and he'd look like a hero. Basically, insanely unethical. In addition, if a bid is over $50,000 you need like 2-3 other bids. He tried bypassing this process. Like I said, he could have broken some laws for all I know and that's what they're investigating.
My company is actually a state agency that regulates alcohol in Texas. Basically I work for the government. The policy is actually state law. I know this because I was explicitly told on a separate project that I had to get bids (basically to get this info I had to bypass him and go to his boss), if it went over $50,000 I needed to get at least 3 bids. Luckily, the bid came to under $50,000, so I was good, but my boss is well aware of this, even if he's playing dumb. For all I know this investigation could blow open a whole criminal investigation and the last time this kind of stuff happened earlier this year, people were actually testifying in front of the Texas House and Senate. I may have opened a can of worms like crazy.Interesting. So your company has a policy where by
any bids over a certain amount must go to tender?
He is side stepping cooperate policy I would assume if that is the case.
Also he is, as you mention, breaking what could be state and/or federal competition
Heres the issue with that, assuming that is the case.
If they have to admit that they broke that
and it is a law..the company will bury it all. No chance they
will want that getting out it doesn't matter who is involved.
Well ...if they know whats good for them.
Best bet would be make you happy somehow so you do go to press.
Then they will go through proper due diligence to fire him proper like.
In Canada if a company circumvents competition law? Shit can hit the fan
pretty quick like. That's a big no no. The only monopolies we like in Canada
are retard Liberal governments. (low blow on the liberals there but yeah)
Damn dude. Wish I was doing what you are :/
I need that kinda excitement again.
Actually -at least in europe- retaliation does not depend in how big is actually the fault that you are denouncing, but in how hard they attack you. In other words, if one can prove a link between firing and one's denounce, even the denounce was so "weak" as "my boss is stealing some buck of the office coffe box", it is retaliation anyway.Also, if my boss was truly doing illegal stuff, I'm also protected under whistleblower status.