As if to imply that Sensors can't go questing in some story? The way we gather information would have no bearing on whether or not we would go "on a quest"....though N is more of the grand quest types
Why the hell would it be anyone's duty to "claim the world"? Also, I do question my motivation in this case: what's the point of conquering the world? It's hard enough for some people to manage a single company/city/what have you, let alone the world.Anyway, if you would find it you "duty" to claim the world: How would you go about "fulfilling it"; don't bother with motivation, you have it.
I was thinking of making a story myself about a Sensor going on a quest, so that is not what I imply. As I have quoted of you below, the way a sensor gathers information, makes it hard for them to find motivation to do such a thing; while a intuitive may get the idea "Hey? taking over the world seems like a fun thing to do" That hardly seems reasonable for a sensor, as there wouldn't really be any rational reasoning behind that(I'm not implying sensors can't have fun, just that taking over the world wouldn't seem fun).As if to imply that Sensors can't go questing in some story? The way we gather information would have no bearing on whether or not we would go "on a quest".
If for example the people who controlled you are very cruel and inconsistent, meaning that even if you follow their orders you may still be subject to their cruelty, meaning the only way to make you and the ones you love being safe is by overthrowing them. However, they are greatly supported by other, more powerful organizations which would attack you if you where to overthrow them. So in getting free of the rule, and making life better, you must become more powerful then the other organizations.Why the hell would it be anyone's duty to "claim the world"? Also, I do question my motivation in this case: what's the point of conquering the world? It's hard enough for some people to manage a single company/city/what have you, let alone the world.
Should I take that as: make a list?
An ISTJ would need a lofty goal. Your scenario does provide a reasonable motivation (liberation from oppression and injustice.) At the same time a mutiny definitely narrows down the scope of things. I would've been more interested in world domination through political intrigue.while a intuitive may get the idea "Hey? taking over the world seems like a fun thing to do" That hardly seems reasonable for a sensor, as there wouldn't really be any rational reasoning behind that.
With the given scenario, I don't see how there could be any other course of action besides the obvious infiltration -> conversion -> mutiny.If for example the people who controlled you are very cruel and inconsistent, meaning that even if you follow their orders you may still be subject to their cruelty, meaning the only way to make you and the ones you love being safe is by overthrowing them. However, they are greatly supported by other, more powerful organizations which would attack you if you where to overthrow them. So in getting free of the rule, and making life better, you must become more powerful then the other organizations.
Suggested book: "The Man Who Used The Universe" by Alan Dean Foster. Suggested films: The Yakuza and The Last Samurai....writing a story about taking over the world....
Will most likely do.Suggested book: "The Man Who Used The Universe" by Alan Dean Foster. Suggested films: The Yakuza and The Last Samurai.
Explore the concept of Giri (and especially the conflict between giri and ninjo - also explored in the Alan Dean Foster book, though from a westernized/future perspective).
An ISTJ would have to feel overwhelming duty to implement a plan to take over the world.
Yes, what a burden morality is... always forcing us to act like we're above animals instead of one of them.As for alignment, I would actually say lawful neutral, don't want him to be halted by goodness.
It sounds like you're basing this on some kind of conspiracy theory; unless you live under a totalitarian regime like North Korea, I highly doubt that life is as cruel and controlled as the story setting is. Where will this be set?If for example the people who controlled you are very cruel and inconsistent, meaning that even if you follow their orders you may still be subject to their cruelty, meaning the only way to make you and the ones you love being safe is by overthrowing them. However, they are greatly supported by other, more powerful organizations which would attack you if you where to overthrow them. So in getting free of the rule, and making life better, you must become more powerful then the other organizations.
It will at least not be in our world, with that said, it would be best considered as fantasy. I do not want the obvious good and evil fight that fantasy stories are usually made to contain, but as you said, I am using the fantasy setting as a possibility to have an environment that will create a believable world ruler. Meaning my focus will be to have believable characters, if this is at the cost of believable environments, then so be it.Yes, what a burden morality is... always forcing us to act like we're above animals instead of one of them.
It sounds like you're basing this on some kind of conspiracy theory; unless you live under a totalitarian regime like North Korea, I highly doubt that life is as cruel and controlled as the story setting is. Where will this be set?
I understand that you're still in the conceptual stage, but I need more details before I can offer more constructive criticism.
Fair enough. So is it fair to say this would be considered a "low fantasy" work, i.e. minimal magic and such?It will at least not be in our world, with that said, it would be best considered as fantasy. I do not want the obvious good and evil fight that fantasy stories are usually made to contain, but as you said, I am using the fantasy setting as a possibility to have an environment that will create a believable world ruler. Meaning my focus will be to have believable characters, if this is at the cost of believable environments, then so be it.
Aha... that's the problem. You're going to have to go into major details just to take one small step forward here.I don't want to go into to much detail, as it is still in conceptual stages.
For the sake of this discussion, consider it early 19th century earth, except a lot smaller, say 100 millions of inhabitants, all in all.Fair enough. So is it fair to say this would be considered a "low fantasy" work, i.e. minimal magic and such?
I figured, the question is just if I will tire of the counter questions, or if they will tire of me not telling enough first?Aha... that's the problem. You're going to have to go into major details just to take one small step forward here.
Trust me, they'll probably tire first. In case you haven't noticed, ISTJs aren't exactly inclined to discuss abstract discussion. I'd add my own thoughts to the topic, but since I'm not an official ISTJ, it probably wouldn't mean much. They'll probably continue asking you for information, until the situation goes back to a real life example of someone from the same personality type in the position this thread is asking them to imagine themselves in.I figured, the question is just if I will tire of the counter questions, or if they will tire of me not telling enough first?
I see. That's an ambitious plotline and it does sound quite interesting.the point is to start with nothing and then build everything up, using changing methods. Start with building alliances, when you have some power, you may represent yourself politically and such political intrigue may be possible.
Yep, a successful rebellion isn't the end. Assuming there are rogue forces, it would be logical to build a unified front to prevent old enemies from regrouping. You could aim for expansion through an ideological alliance (ie. freedom) which could later shift into an economic alliance (ie. peaceful prosperity.)When the power have stopped being a rebellion though, I have to come up with some more motivation for claiming the rest of the world.
An ISTJ in power would strive to uphold high ideals. There could be an internal struggle to strike a balance between those ideals and the process of acquiring political power. I can see a 'benevolent dictator' in the fashion of Julius Caesar.What interests me the most of going ISTJ is the possibility of perfection, if I where to try it myself I would undoubtedly make some misses, which I might have to compensate for as I go.
Interesting the chosen timeline. Steampunk-style fantasy world, or something a-la the Lord Darcy series by Randall Garret?For the sake of this discussion, consider it early 19th century earth, except a lot smaller, say 100 millions of inhabitants, all in all.
