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I'm just trying to understand Ni better than I do.
 
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Ni is going from a to d while skipping the b and c. You just *know* the answer. It's also jumping from a to d when there *are* no b and c. For me, it feels like a huge cathedral, organized and ever-expanding. I know the way. I know how a car stereo works, and I know how I should stabilize option pricing, and I know how they are ultimately similar. There are big connections going from one end to the next, nothing is distant. It is my home. It is where I live. Sometimes, I show some of the goodies to the rest of the world. Usually, I don't.
 

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I've always felt like my introverted intuition was a subconscious function. I'd extract an idea or an event from the outside world, and allow my subconscious the deduce and produce the correct answer, or the best way to achieve what I am seeking, whether it is the most efficient manner, the quickest manner, or the easiest way. Things suddenly pop up for me quite often, whether the situation is current or months past.
 

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All my creative ideas well from here. I love to brainstorm and put things together in new ways. It's my playground. When I get into the right zone I can turn off everything else and let all the ideas and associations and moods dance around creating one reality after another. When I'm really into it I lose all sense of time and place and turn into this strange absent mystical person. Then I turn my Te back on and act more normal.

(And yes, I know you probably can't actually turn off functions. That's how it feels to me, though)
 

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Most people forget it is part of a system and by defining all the aspects of the system you can more clearly see the interactions and attributes of the functions. Anyway from an article I wrote a while ago:

Introverted Intuition - INTJ and INFJ

Foreseeing implications, transformations, and likely effects

As ever introverted intuition is an ill defined process. It is an introverted subconcious perceiving process thus leaving most bewildered at its function. It imaginatively creates benchmarks and using iconology determines the similarities in ideas proposing the implications of these ideas and how they can affect the world. It is also sneakily subjective as it lends to a person a censored thought pattern to others around them as the benchmarks and iconology may bear little relation to reality but subtle guide the definition of the introverted intuitive. Over time it is passively enriched by other functions as experience is gained.

For the INFJ the introverted intuition is supported by extroverted feeling as a way to deal with the need to protect the imaginative and uniquely defined benchmarks of the Ni mindset is reconciled with attempting to gain a mutual understanding of shared external space.

In contrast the INTJ supports introverted intution by protecting their mindset by logically critiqueing their external environment using thinking to select elements of the environment which suit their inner vision.
 

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Most people forget it is part of a system and by defining all the aspects of the system you can more clearly see the interactions and attributes of the functions. Anyway from an article I wrote a while ago:

Introverted Intuition - INTJ and INFJ

Foreseeing implications, transformations, and likely effects

As ever introverted intuition is an ill defined process. It is an introverted subconcious perceiving process thus leaving most bewildered at its function. It imaginatively creates benchmarks and using iconology determines the similarities in ideas proposing the implications of these ideas and how they can affect the world. It is also sneakily subjective as it lends to a person a censored thought pattern to others around them as the benchmarks and iconology may bear little relation to reality but subtle guide the definition of the introverted intuitive. Over time it is passively enriched by other functions as experience is gained.

For the INFJ the introverted intuition is supported by extroverted feeling as a way to deal with the need to protect the imaginative and uniquely defined benchmarks of the Ni mindset is reconciled with attempting to gain a mutual understanding of shared external space.

In contrast the INTJ supports introverted intution by protecting their mindset by logically critiqueing their external environment using thinking to select elements of the environment which suit their inner vision.
Good article, and good point about not describing the functions in isolation. Okay, I'll try to describe Ni in terms of all four functions. It's a bit like an unruly committee meeting, with Te trying to moderate it and Ni not really paying attention but somehow triggering all the ideas. Here is an example from a project I worked on last week. It is obviously not quite like the following, but it gives the general idea of how this INTJ's head works:

Te: Everybody come to order. On the agenda: we have to come up with a craft about sheep. It must be appropriate for three year olds, not take more than fifteen minutes for them to make, use materials we already have, not take too much prep time.

Ni: (humming): On the radio, woo ooo, Mexican radio.
Fi: But are sheep a good topic? Will they enjoy making sheep?
Ni: Sheep! Such silly animals. "On the radio, Mexican radio." Maybe we should move to Mexico!
Se: I'm hungry. I want a sandwich."
Te: This isn't working. Let's go look at the supplies.

Go poke around in the craft supplies.

Se: I like all these colors!
Ni: Sheep farming in Mexico. Maybe Patagonia. We could make serapes or sweaters. With the three year olds?
Te: No.
Se: These cotton balls are soft and fluffy.
Ni: Like sheep wool.
Fi: Children like cotton balls. I like cotton balls.
Te: Let's try them.

For brevity, I'll skip past the rest of the sheep design. I ended up making a sheep stick puppet with cotton ball wool. Te was happy, this was a practical craft that met the criteria. Ni was happy thinking about life as a Patagonian sheep farmer. Then I hit a snag when the lesser functions chimed in:

Se: That is the ugliest sheep I have ever seen. What's with the pink head?
Fi: It looks mean. No kid will like that.
Ni: Ha ha ha - it's a psychopathic sheep. Just think, all the preschoolers running around with a flock of killer sheep! Blood everywhere! Ha ha ha!
Fi: That is completely disgusting, Ni. You should be ashamed of yourself!
Ni: But he's glaring at us! Looking at us dead in the eye.
Se: Yeah, he really is.
Te: Dammit. Okay, try moving the head.
Se: And make it not pink. So ugly.
Ni: Really it could be any animal, if you change the head and fur color.
Te: Duly noted. Good idea for future crafts.
Ni: (humming): On the radio, woo ooo, Mexican radio

The completed sheep puppet craft was a big hit with the preschoolers and did not remind anyone of a serial killer. Another success from the Ni Te Fi Se committee.
 

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I also think it's more useful to look at the Ni-Te combo instead of only Ni in isolation.

Here's how I visualize the Ni-Te relationship:



Ni is the source of ideas, associations and solutions.

I chose it to represent it as a single lightbulb for the sake of simplicity, but you could also picture Ni as a network of many lightbulbs that light up, with each lightbulb representing an idea or connection.

Another way I could picture it is as a boiling witch pot, but I digress ;3.

Te is the filter which rationally and logically evaluates the output of our Ni, sorting out the most useful ideas (illustrated as "Good") from the "maybe" and from the just plain crap ideas to discard. Again this is a simplification of the results of the Te process.
 

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Green Girl- Ni there sounds more like Ne.[/QUOTE]

I personified it just a tad for literary effect. But maybe it is Ne. My brain sometimes mystifies me. I read InvisibleJim's article right before I went to bed and woke up with my second post all composed in my head. I just sat down and typed it out. Does that sound more like Ne or Ni? Or something else?

I also dreamed I went to a scientific conference on personality theories and all the people from PerCafe were there delivering learned lectures that I couldn't really follow. Everyone looked vaguely like Einstein.
 

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For me, Ni is the process that allows me to find commonality among random things, connect them, and apply meaning.

Example: In my last therapy session, my counselor had me create a safe place. She wanted me to describe it in sensory terms (sight, sound, smell). I struggled with that because I don't see my world in those terms; my world is composed of symbols. But, I created the information she wanted because I knew we wouldn't move on until she was satisfied. The next step was for her to repeat the cues back to me while I visualized it. I nearly laughed because as she was describing the sensory details I intuited the meanings behind the details I chose.

Safe Place: Horseback Riding
Gloves: protection from the harsher edges of the reins, mutes the physical sensations
Saddle: provides balance and stability, mutes the physical sensations but doesn't eliminate them
Gait: predictability, rhythm, symmetry
Aware of others but not paying attention: internal focus
Indoor arena: controlled and safe environment, outside influence is moderated by doors that close
 

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Its the little devil in the back of my mind that keeps telling me that every pattern and bit of information has greater meaning than it actually does. But sometimes he is right when he gets all the information.
 

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Its a world like no other. You see things you wouldn't imagine that seem as if they come out of a vastitude of omnipotence. Everything is seen from how they COULD be. Although you already sense the good, bad, the ugly... It doesn't matter. The potential always justifies your own personal means. I think this is why everyone thinks INTJs have high expectations or we're perfectionists. The reality of a connection isn't as fruitful as the plausible. We predict the future and already know what the world is capable of. Such a gift like this can be scary to have... Because we have the power to destroy a beautiful thing we are not meant to touch.
 
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