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I don't know how to start it, but I felt like I need to talk about myself to someone that doesn't know me but would understand me. so here I am.
I always hated looking for a relationship, but the society made me going for it, so last year I was dating a girl and I opened up to her about myself that how I hate myself for being weird or different, she told me to take a test about personalities and I did, and I found out that I'm not the only one that is like this! I broke up with her, because it was the time that I knew that I'm not alone! I have so much in my mind now so I needed to confess and talk to some people about it.
I'm almost 27, has always been praised about my IQ, studied in a highschool for gifted students so it made to look at others with pity that how stupid they are. I dropped out of the college 2 times, first time I thought maybe its my country that got shitty education, went abroad, then I found out its not about the system, it's about the people. everyone expected me to do great things! but I havent done anything with my life. I have tons of ideas, trying to work on them but I can't focus. I'm really good at learning new things to a point that I memorized 100digits of pi in 30mins or learned English with just watching 12 seasons of The Simpsons in 2 months ( I know my English is not the best). but it makes me depressed that I havent achieved anything with my gifts. everyday I wake up and I say that I have to work on the ideas and change the world but I dont know why I cant, and the fact that I dont know its reason is killing me.

never had a good relationship. the best relationship that I had was with a girl that was in a relationship already. it was perfect for me and it lasted almost 2 years.

I think about the future more than I should. I spend most of my times thinking rather doing anything. I went to jail once for 2weeks and it was the best time of my life, because I could just sit at a corner and think without feeling guilty of not being productive. I dont work, my parents pay for all my shit. I had multiple job offers with great salaries but I feel so arrogant to accept, and I know that if I work myself just as a freelancer or on my own ideas I would do great and I can definitely be successful, but I am super ambitious. I dont want or need money I just want to change the world.

I'm also conflict oriented, I enjoy arguing with people, I hate it when people agree with me. but I'm not stubborn, if someone is right and brings some logic I totally accept it. I feel that maybe I want people to be stupid so I can pity them.


First time that I found out I'm INTP and there are people out there like me, it felt great! I almost cried. now again I just did this confession to feel better about myself and to see if there are some other people like me that have some advice for me.

thank you all in advance.
 

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You don't sound very smart. You just sound like you desperately want to be seen that way.

You're welcome.
Why would you say that? what made you to come to that conclusion? you should be stupid to lie in a confession specially when the target is total strangers.
well atleast now I know not all INTPs are smart.
 

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"I felt like a racehorse in a world without racetracks" - Sylvia Plath (not an INTP but that's ok).


You are me in many ways, but in a good 3 years. (I wonder what I got convicted for... Well, I have thought about jail life as a possible 'solution', so I find it funny that you confirm this possibility to actually be a viable path.)

It is a frustrating for me that I want to create stuff when I am doing nothing, but once I commit to my plans I want to go back to doing nothing instead. I think the problem is that we INTPs spend too much identifying our passion - assuming that one's passion is immune to procrastination and lazy behavior - up until the point we may never even find it. Part of us wants to be this 'Jack of all trades' (Ne) - and we are - except we don't hop from interst to interest as quickly as we perhaps should.

That is because we refuse to let go until we gained a deep enough understanding (Ti), regardless of the subject actually deeply triggering us. We need three lifetimes in other words to find out about what we really like (unless we get kind of lucky), to then produce to our full potential. As a result, we live passionless lives, floating from subject to subject (or person to person for that matter), wasting a lot of time on one before letting loose of what could/should have been a life long commitment.
 

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I'm also conflict oriented, I enjoy arguing with people, I hate it when people agree with me. but I'm not stubborn, if someone is right and brings some logic I totally accept it. I feel that maybe I want people to be stupid so I can pity them.
That doesn't really sound like an INTP unless you mean "debate/discussion" instead of "conflict/argue."
 

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Hello,
I don't know how to start it, but I felt like I need to talk about myself to someone that doesn't know me but would understand me. so here I am.
I always hated looking for a relationship, but the society made me going for it, so last year I was dating a girl and I opened up to her about myself that how I hate myself for being weird or different, she told me to take a test about personalities and I did, and I found out that I'm not the only one that is like this! I broke up with her, because it was the time that I knew that I'm not alone! I have so much in my mind now so I needed to confess and talk to some people about it.
I'm almost 27, has always been praised about my IQ, studied in a highschool for gifted students so it made to look at others with pity that how stupid they are. I dropped out of the college 2 times, first time I thought maybe its my country that got shitty education, went abroad, then I found out its not about the system, it's about the people. everyone expected me to do great things! but I havent done anything with my life. I have tons of ideas, trying to work on them but I can't focus. I'm really good at learning new things to a point that I memorized 100digits of pi in 30mins or learned English with just watching 12 seasons of The Simpsons in 2 months ( I know my English is not the best). but it makes me depressed that I havent achieved anything with my gifts. everyday I wake up and I say that I have to work on the ideas and change the world but I dont know why I cant, and the fact that I dont know its reason is killing me.

never had a good relationship. the best relationship that I had was with a girl that was in a relationship already. it was perfect for me and it lasted almost 2 years.

I think about the future more than I should. I spend most of my times thinking rather doing anything. I went to jail once for 2weeks and it was the best time of my life, because I could just sit at a corner and think without feeling guilty of not being productive. I dont work, my parents pay for all my shit. I had multiple job offers with great salaries but I feel so arrogant to accept, and I know that if I work myself just as a freelancer or on my own ideas I would do great and I can definitely be successful, but I am super ambitious. I dont want or need money I just want to change the world.

I'm also conflict oriented, I enjoy arguing with people, I hate it when people agree with me. but I'm not stubborn, if someone is right and brings some logic I totally accept it. I feel that maybe I want people to be stupid so I can pity them.


First time that I found out I'm INTP and there are people out there like me, it felt great! I almost cried. now again I just did this confession to feel better about myself and to see if there are some other people like me that have some advice for me.

thank you all in advance.
You want advice from people like you? I have news for you. People like you haven't much advice to give. Go find someone who isn't like you.

Freelancer on what? Reporter? Writer?

Thinking in a corner is something but you will eventually spin out without outside input. I find it fun to go random here at PerC and it is inspiring because I can't predict random input.

You said you are super ambitious. You are ungrounded. Grab something and run with it.

You say you have a high I.Q. Want me to put you to work on PerC? Naw. You are new here so can't tell what you will do. Welcome anyway. I've been here a couple years.

You mentioned relationships. That is another topic ... sort of. I've learned from relationships but it still comes down to oneself ... what one can pick up 65f55555555555555 (<-- cat typing) from the relationship.

I'll go read the rest of this thread. I picked it cuz it is short.
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Why would you say that? what made you to come to that conclusion? you should be stupid to lie in a confession specially when the target is total strangers.
well atleast now I know not all INTPs are smart.
INTPs just like to think. That can get them smarter but not necessarily. I have this theory INTPs are isolated or inexperienced in some way ... but that could be just me. Anyway if true that would make them smart in the area where they are thinking and dumb and without ability in other areas.
 

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"I felt like a racehorse in a world without racetracks" - Sylvia Plath (not an INTP but that's ok).


You are me in many ways, but in a good 3 years. (I wonder what I got convicted for... Well, I have thought about jail life as a possible 'solution', so I find it funny that you confirm this possibility to actually be a viable path.)

It is a frustrating for me that I want to create stuff when I am doing nothing, but once I commit to my plans I want to go back to doing nothing instead. I think the problem is that we INTPs spend too much identifying our passion - assuming that one's passion is immune to procrastination and lazy behavior - up until the point we may never even find it. Part of us wants to be this 'Jack of all trades' (Ne) - and we are - except we don't hop from interst to interest as quickly as we perhaps should.

That is because we refuse to let go until we gained a deep enough understanding (Ti), regardless of the subject actually deeply triggering us. We need three lifetimes in other words to find out about what we really like (unless we get kind of lucky), to then produce to our full potential. As a result, we live passionless lives, floating from subject to subject (or person to person for that matter), wasting a lot of time on one before letting loose of what could/should have been a life long commitment.
I really needed hear "this is what it is". I'm so glad you said it. my friend once wanted to describe me and he said " He is so passionate about what he likes". it's like when I found something interesting I have to figure out everything about it. but I get bored of it pretty fast. when I want to find something to buy like a phone or a laptop I make tons of research to a point that I cant sleep at night. its not only about stuff that I buy. when I want to do something new I have to know that I can be best at it. it doesnt matter if I even go to be the best, I just need to know that.
 

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You want advice from people like you? I have news for you. People like you haven't much advice to give. Go find someone who isn't like you.

Freelancer on what? Reporter? Writer?

Thinking in a corner is something but you will eventually spin out without outside input. I find it fun to go random here at PerC and it is inspiring because I can't predict random input.

You said you are super ambitious. You are ungrounded. Grab something and run with it.

You say you have a high I.Q. Want me to put you to work on PerC? Naw. You are new here so can't tell what you will do. Welcome anyway. I've been here a couple years.

You mentioned relationships. That is another topic ... sort of. I've learned from relationships but it still comes down to oneself ... what one can pick up 65f55555555555555 (<-- cat typing) from the relationship.

I'll go read the rest of this thread. I picked it cuz it is short.
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INTPs just like to think. That can get them smarter but not necessarily. I have this theory INTPs are isolated or inexperienced in some way ... but that could be just me. Anyway if true that would make them smart in the area where they are thinking and dumb and without ability in other areas.
well atleast some people will say they have the same problems, and it makes me feel better about myself.
I'm a programmer.
I'm trying to stick with some projects, but I cant focus.
I dont know what PerC is.
 

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anything that I can disagree, or I can show off how smart I am.
You may be smart but so far you haven't been smart enough to find yourself. Needs work.
 

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well atleast some people will say they have the same problems, and it makes me feel better about myself.
I'm a programmer.
I'm trying to stick with some projects, but I cant focus.
I dont know what PerC is.
I was a programmer for 15 years. But I've broadened my interests to philosophy and psychology and more. (I'm retired).

PerC = This Personality Cafe.

Hard to say but when I don't focus something is absent in my motivation. What are your interests, off hand?
 

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You may be smart but so far you haven't been smart enough to find yourself. Needs work.
I can manipulate myself better than anyone and I do that frequently. because it doesnt matter what the subject it, I can make some logic behind it and justify what I do. so I guess I know myself. I'm just lost. I think about stuff that I want to achieve alot, but when it comes to action, I dont feel motivated enough. sometimes I feel that I cant change the world and thats the worst feeling, and I cant say that to people that I want to change the world, because they think its childish and wrong to think that way at this age.
 

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I was a programmer for 15 years. But I've broadened my interests to philosophy and psychology and more. (I'm retired).

PerC = This Personality Cafe.

Hard to say but when I don't focus something is absent in my motivation. What are your interests, off hand?
I am good at finding patterns, when I see something that I can find a pattern that most people cant is the best feeling. I am also really into psychology and philosophy and I love cognitive science. but I cant work on this field because it's more like a university thing and I dont like to work without an output.
 

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I can manipulate myself better than anyone and I do that frequently. because it doesnt matter what the subject it, I can make some logic behind it and justify what I do. so I guess I know myself. I'm just lost. I think about stuff that I want to achieve alot, but when it comes to action, I dont feel motivated enough. sometimes I feel that I cant change the world and thats the worst feeling, and I cant say that to people that I want to change the world, because they think its childish and wrong to think that way at this age.
If you are manipulating anything you are using your head and not your feelings. This is going to be an over-simplification, but everyone has feelings and the subtlety of yours is unconscious. That's true for me too. When I think too much I have to consult ... observe what my feelings are. Like right now instead of editing what I say and thinking it, I'm writing it out ... no editing.

If you are acting to justify something prematurely you probably have a logic fallacy.

I'm not going to say you can't change the world. You can. Go for it. Try something out until you can go no further. Then backtrack and see what you've done. Get ready for a revision. Not to forget world problems are hard so you will need all your I.Q.
 

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I am good at finding patterns, when I see something that I can find a pattern that most people cant is the best feeling. I am also really into psychology and philosophy and I love cognitive science. but I cant work on this field because it's more like a university thing and I dont like to work without an output.
Great! I lost you on this "university thing." You don't go to school?
 

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Great! I lost you on this "university thing." You don't go to school?
I have dropped school two times already, and I feel that I'm getting old. and cognitive science is more like a field that people working in universities and they have it just for masters or PHD.
But I want to dedicate myself to a deep learning project now and stick with it to the end. because atleast it's a field that I like.
 
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