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I've had a general interest in typing something like this for awhile, though that's also been characterized by a lot of general reluctance for a few reasons; I suppose most specifically I feel a bit guilty about most of what I want to state, and don't want the general quality of my character to be perceived as extremely negative by this forum as I enjoy posting here from time to time and I believe it's possible I won't be able to do so while at the same time meriting respect beyond the point I reveal so much about myself... I was also unsure about what would be the best means to format this, and frankly I suppose I'm a general hedonist - and by extension have a natural inclination to extreme procrastination - too (correlating with the general point to this thread of course).

As my thread title already specifies though, at this point in my life I think it's extremely likely that I'm a psychopath. I've read up extensively on the condition on wikipedia's entry (which is obviously very well cited in case anyone scrutinizes that) as well as the Hare psychopathy checklist, and I believe I fit the criteria really well. I wasn't sure if this would be the best means of going about this, though I decided I would grant each of the key characteristics of psychopathy that best define me and give detailed specifics why.

Shallow Emotions

Recently I've questioned whether or not I've felt anything akin to love, remorse, or any other possible emotion aside from amusement (and a lot of the things that do amuse me tend to be sophomoric and/or basely inspired, almost fitting SP conventions, although I've never tested as any one of those types). When I was much younger I'd compulsively apologized for any misdeed that I'd done, and I'd also told my mother I loved her on a very avid basis, though recently I've been curious as to whether or not there had ever been any feeling behind anything that I've said. I should reference at this point in my life, I have ambivalent feelings towards my mother, as I believe it was extremely poor judgment on her part to have kids (I also have a maternal half-brother) as she's never held a real career, and can't even support herself let alone the two of us, (I'm currently stuck working a dead-end job primarily for that reason hence the resentment) though despite that she's always tried to provide the best she can for both of us and has always put the needs and general welfare of us ahead of her own. Even with all that said, at this point I'm very conservative about telling her that I love her because I definitely don't believe that I do, and I can't consciously recall the last time I said that to anyone else.

Although at my job I do use the term "sorry" on a somewhat avid basis, beyond the point that I say so I often wonder if there was actually any emotion correlated with anything that I'd just stated, and I wouldn't believe so objectively.

Lying and Manipulation

Although I don't frequently lie, correlating with the "shallow emotions" description that I just granted, I don't think I'd have many (if any) emotional qualms about doing so it that much was necessitated in order for me to maintain a job or anything else practically necessary. Although she hasn't said this much recently, often when angry at me during the midst of a conflict, my mother has told me "I think you're very manipulative". I'm not sure whether or not I make a conscious choice to be such a definition, but I do believe that the person that I depict myself as being around most of the people at my job is probably extremely artificial contrasted with who I truly am... Even if this might be subconscious and/or inadvertent, I also believe that I probably instinctively appeal to unique persons' emotions with farcical information and/or artificial emotions on my part... As I'm reflecting on everything that I just stated I suppose most of what I stated here might come off decently ambiguous, though this is as best as I'm able to describe this aspect of myself.

Low Tolerance For Boredom (Also Encompassing Irresponsibility)

Over the span of the last few years I've become - while thinking about things as objectively as I'm capable of anyway - at least a moderate gaming addict, and it's true that I hate to be idle and don't like doing anything that requires long term arduous effort and/or even moderate physical exertion (throughout middle school - high school, whenever I would be assigned projects, I'd usually put off everything until about a week's span where it would be due, and then by that point it would be done at the last minute, and being bluntly honest my mother would do at least 75% of the actual work on my projects, and I don't think anything would've been completely finished if it weren't for her help.

While I'm not at my job, I live pretty much as akin to a hedonist as is possible for me to do, doing next to nothing but making use of my computer, watching TV, on scarce occasion reading, and gaming (although recently I haven't had a current gen console so that much isn't as true, though during the time frame that I haven't had access to multiplayer games I've become something akin to a masturbatory and/or porn addict being fully honest with both myself and whoever reads my thread). My effort tied with domestic upkeep is also probably mediocre at best, and I know without any bit of a doubt I I never want biological kids (if I find a woman who meets my standards and accepts my eccentricities though, I think I might consider adoption hence me not just referencing "kids" unambiguously, though I don't think that's very likely to happen either). One claim that I can make with reference to responsibility is that I have had a few pets over the span of my life, and objectively I think I've done a decent job of both generally caring and practically providing for each of them (strangely, objectively I think I exhibit more positive emotion tied with specific animals that I grow attached to as opposed to humans generally, so maybe I would simply fit the definition of a misanthrope as opposed to a psychopath, as I know that "cruelty to animals" is one of the clinical precursors to psychopathy, and I definitely don't fit that definition).

Parasitic Lifestyle

Over the span of my life, on 3 distinct occasions - at least essentially and by practical definition - I've dropped out of school; the first time was primarily due to negative social interaction with my peers, and at the time my mother had the intention to home school me directly beyond the point that that happened, though it didn't work out and I did pretty much nothing but (once again) act as a hedonist, most specifically simply watching TV and (although not as much as I do so now) gaming. The second time was only for a a few months, and I did return to finish that specific school year; I'd
really burned myself out, as I'd had the heaviest course load in my life, and had a job that I'd worked on the weekends, so maybe a few people might've reacted that way objectively, but I believe it's probably still worth citing anyway. However, I have pretty much no excuse with reference to the final and most recent time, other than simply not wanting to be in school (I'm a little bit surprised my mother didn't do much to stop that objectively, but that's the truth). I'd actually referenced that much within another thread that I'd posted here, though for about a year I did pretty much nothing but game and make use of my computer.

As I've referenced earlier, I do have a job, though my reasoning for having sought a job was generally against my will, and if I was expected to work more hours there and/or do much more in the way of excessively arduous and/or physically exerting behavior I'd probably either quit or get fired, and would definitely not feel any regret about losing the job, I'd simply feel a bit of anxiety tied with what would happen to me as far as living conditions go... Frankly, if that was a practical option I'd prefer staying totally unemployed as opposed to having to work the job that I do now for the rest of my life, though I suppose objectively I'd like the chance to try for an actual career more so than anything else at this point.

Grandiosity/Narcissistic Self-Perception

While younger, my general perception of myself - most specifically with reference to my intellect - tended to be extremely inflated... I'd generally spout comments about how intelligent that I believed myself to be, I'd state my opinions of specific things as if they were fact, (and to some extent still do that now, though not as much as I formerly had)
and generally considered myself smarter and better than most people around me, despite the fact that in terms of academic performance mine was probably just a bit above average at best, and I didn't really excel at much of anything other than understanding fairly abstract concepts.

While originally learning about personality disorders, I'd thought Narcissistic Personality Disorder described a lot of my signature characteristics really well, and I thought I somewhat fit the definition of Anti-Social Personality Disorder too - it seems to me by practical definition those two ideas combined, along with natural inclination for excess hedonism pretty much translates to clinical psychopathy.

Over the past couple years, as I've been candid about the fact that I believe I'm at least a moderate narcissist and am an extreme hedonist, my mom has told me with reference to my behavior and self-perception - at least as far as the former point goes - "I don't think it was about being narcissistic, I think you just wanted some means to stand out in a positive way, you weren't athletic...", amidst a bit of things I can't remember now frankly, and I suppose what she had said was true, though I'd believe I'd still have some general narcissistic tendencies now too.

As the criteria also specifies, I have a general disdain towards authority; I hate being defined or considered anyone's subordinate, either abstractly or practically, and I hate being told what to do, especially when it's something I'd never want to do otherwise. When I'd taken a general personality inventory test once, I think more than any other trait I scored highest on "anti-authority"... My mother's also made reference to me being very defiant when I was younger (she hasn't said that much recently, and I think my specific defiance of her is probably a bit decreased contrasted with when I was younger, though I am prone to general defiance some of the time of course). I think it's likely I probably would've been defined as having "oppositional defiant disorder" while younger too if I'd been exposed to many clinicians then, which is often a precursor to psychopathy from what I know of as well.

Miscellaneous Ideas I Believe Are Worth Referencing

I wasn't sure if I should subdivide all of this subject matter, though I think I'd be better off doing so. I was also considering making reference to this idea within the previous specific focus of everything that I've typed, though being able to ascertain my own MBTI type has proven pretty difficult. Although I'm not a definitive expert of either the MBTI or how psychopathy
is defined precisely, from what I know of both of the concepts I would believe that most psychopaths couldn't be typed, because they're not capable of feeling any emotion by conventional standards, and possess such narcissistic outlooks regarding how they would define themselves, and by extension couldn't completely truthfully take a test defining one's persona.

As I already referenced at least once within this thread, objectively I'd define myself as naturally choosing to live like an S_P, though I've never tested as a sensor, and most often I test as a J type; most specifically more than any other type I've tested as an INFJ, and I think both the general persona that I possess and my general outlook towards society definitely defies most NFJ conventions (some people could argue this is an issue of gender roles though, based off some of the other things I've read). I've pretty much unconditionally tested as an IN too, and most often that's been at least some form of IN_J (most often when I've taken functional strength tests, Ni tends to be what's strongest for me, so I suppose that correlates logically).

I guess a nice segue with reference to the ambiguous status of what my type is, as this is also possibly correlated with being a psychopath, is that I'm also left-handed. I'm not sure how many clinical/empirical studies have been executed with reference to discerning if there is a correlation with reference to unconventional dexterity, and if whatever people who fit that definition might also be predisposed to being psychopaths, but cited within the wiki article for psychopathy there has been at least one, and the results suggested that there could be a link.

On a previous personality psychology forum that I'd posted on, someone suggested that being INTP could very simply be defined as being the "left-hand path", although I'm not sure how many specific details they'd cited. Someone else on the same forum had suggested a correlation between being INTP and having Asperger's Syndrome, and a few people who've gotten to know me decently well who have backgrounds in general psychology have suggested as much about me too... I forgot specifically where I'd read this, but within a forum exclusively tied with being INFJ, a person who'd created the thread himself had also defined himself as being left-handed.

I suppose it could be possible this is just my means of wishing to vent my frustration, though recently I've also become decently obsessed with serial killers and/or mass murderers... As at this point I recognize the fact that my intellect is probably just a bit above average, I possess a decent deal of handicaps, and I'm generally impractical... At this point I believe there's no means I'll ever be able to become conventionally successful with reference to either possessing a respectable job position and/or an impressive income... At the same time, I never wish to be resigned to being nothing more than a societal serf for the rest of my life, so given only the option of fitting that definition or becoming famous for being something heinous, I'd choose the latter... Most specifically with that said I've been interested in mass murder, and I'm not sure whether or not I would feel much remorse I went about doing something like that... Even if I would, my primary reason for not acting on that desire is simply because I wouldn't want to face the consequences of going to jail, and when the time would come where I'd need to kill myself, I believe I probably would act as a coward.

Within fiction, I also feel the most natural affinity and/or general interest in villainous characters, as from what I can tell they're the only people that ever get what they want anf never have to follow anyone's rules but their own, and that much appeals to me...

With reference to reasoning that would argue that I'm not a psychopath, the only mental health disorder that I've ever been formally diagnosed with is depression... I believe it's possible that I could have bipolar disorder, though I've never been formally diagnosed as such once again. I'd also made reference to the fact that a few people have proposed the fact that I could have Asperger's Syndrome, though once again no mental health professional has stated as much about me (to my knowledge anyway). From what I know though, a lot of people are skeptical of the validity of both the diagnoses of depression and Asperger's Syndrome, (with more emphasis on the latter) and even if I would fit both those definitions, I would believe that it's still possible I could be a psychopath concurrently.

I also have a decent array of at least moderate severity physical handicaps too... Since about the age of 6 I've had at least moderate intensity GI issues (how much of the causation is physical or psychological is decently ambiguous, though I guess both ideas might play a factor). I also probably have at least a mild degree of hypoglycemia, and it's possible I could have a gluten allergy (as I have really low quality insurance I haven't been able to make either of those ideas definitive, though over the span of the last few months I've lived off of a gluten free diet, and my general physical health has improved a decent deal). In addition to everything I just stated, I'm also a bit of a picky eater too, and with all that said I have somewhat obsessive-compulsive tendencies with reference to food.

Whether or not this is/was correlated with my diet is also somewhat ambiguous, though I've also been prone to relatively frequent migraine-intensity headaches (although once again beyond cutting out gluten my headaches have proven less frequent and upon getting them most often they've proved less severe, so it's likely that is/was the primary cause for them). I've also possessed a condition that made walking decently painful, although currently it's gotten to the point it's been bearable (that's as explicit as I want to be about that though).

I guess stating this might seem pretty hypocritical, though other than harming people for logical/practical purpose, (revenge, or fame) I don't make a habit of fantasizing about harming people vestigially... Again though, I don't believe that's a necessary idea for the diagnosis of psychopathy, the most important idea is whether or not a person would feel remorse for committing such a violent crime, and I'm decently doubtful that I would (excepting a few scenarios and/or if specific people were involved).

With all this stated, I'm simply curious if most people here would believe that I fit the definition of "psychopath", and if so, is there any means that I could better society other than ending my life (and that's almost certainly not going to happen until/before I become homeless, as I'm pretty cowardly and impractical as I've already made explicit)?
 

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If you're guilty, you're not a psychopath. It's that simple. Nor are SPs psychopaths (WTF?!). All of your other problems are probably just muting your emotions.
 

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If you're guilty, you're not a psychopath. It's that simple. Nor are SPs psychopaths (WTF?!). All of your other problems are probably just muting your emotions.
While this may be the case, can you point out any guilt in his post? I don't see any (though admittedly it is rather long and I am impatient)
 

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A genuine psychopath wouldn't have written a post like this. They'd be too busy plotting against others to meet their own selfish needs, or hurting others for selfish wants, etc. I think you may have depression- the tone of your post sounds like one from a very anguished person. Also, I can't help but noticing that you're a 4. I would think that 4s in general would have a pretty low likelihood of becoming psychopathic- the emotional intensity that seems to affect a lot of 4s would probably inhibit the individual from developing psychopathic tendencies (that's just my guess though). But I can say with certainty that you are definitely, absolutely not a psychopath. If you do have depression or another mental illness, then please talk to someone about this. You may want to tell a trusted individual what you wrote here. Or just give them the general idea of what's worrying you, if you are more comfortable with that.
 

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A lot of this is consistent with things you have already stated in your other thread. Whatever I didn't respond to I found insignificant.

I've had a general interest in typing something like this for awhile, though that's also been characterized by a lot of general reluctance for a few reasons; I suppose most specifically I feel a bit guilty about most of what I want to state, and don't want the general quality of my character to be perceived as extremely negative by this forum as I enjoy posting here from time to time and I believe it's possible I won't be able to do so while at the same time meriting respect beyond the point I reveal so much about myself...
Later Part said:
I guess stating this might seem pretty hypocritical, though other than harming people for logical/practical purpose, (revenge, or fame) I don't make a habit of fantasizing about harming people vestigially... Again though, I don't believe that's a necessary idea for the diagnosis of psychopathy, the most important idea is whether or not a person would feel remorse for committing such a violent crime, and I'm decently doubtful that I would (excepting a few scenarios and/or if specific people were involved).
So you feel guilty...that you're afraid won't feel guilt if you were to hurt others? If that's the case, I think you may just be overthinking this. And even if this is more shame than guilt...that's still not psychopathy. A psychopath only cares about what other people think of them to avoid being found out. You have expressed fears that this may be the case, but if you are negatively affected emotionally by others' opinions of you, then that doesn't seem like psychopathy to me. (Though I may be wrong on this, so anyone may correct me if I am.)

Shallow Emotions

I should reference at this point in my life, I have ambivalent feelings towards my mother, as I believe it was extremely poor judgment on her part to have kids (I also have a maternal half-brother) as she's never held a real career, and can't even support herself let alone the two of us, (I'm currently stuck working a dead-end job primarily for that reason hence the resentment) though despite that she's always tried to provide the best she can for both of us and has always put the needs and general welfare of us ahead of her own. Even with all that said, at this point I'm very conservative about telling her that I love her because I definitely don't believe that I do, and I can't consciously recall the last time I said that to anyone else.
I don't know if I've stated this before, but resenting your mother because you deem her irresponsible isn't necessarily a bad thing and is quite understandable. Furthermore, one could argue that "loving" your family is only what is expected and not necessarily the case with everyone, even non-psychopaths.

Lying and Manipulation

Although I don't frequently lie, correlating with the "shallow emotions" description that I just granted, I don't think I'd have many (if any) emotional qualms about doing so it that much was necessitated in order for me to maintain a job or anything else practically necessary. Although she hasn't said this much recently, often when angry at me during the midst of a conflict, my mother has told me "I think you're very manipulative". I'm not sure whether or not I make a conscious choice to be such a definition, but I do believe that the person that I depict myself as being around most of the people at my job is probably extremely artificial contrasted with who I truly am... Even if this might be subconscious and/or inadvertent, I also believe that I probably instinctively appeal to unique persons' emotions with farcical information and/or artificial emotions on my part... As I'm reflecting on everything that I just stated I suppose most of what I stated here might come off decently ambiguous, though this is as best as I'm able to describe this aspect of myself.
You'd be surprised at how often people lie, especially to keep their jobs or whatever. Also note that Wikipedia states that psychopaths are pathological liars. Which, as far as I've found out, is synonymous with compulsive liar. If you do not lie often, you are not a compulsive liar. Oh, and everyone manipulates to a degree. It's just that non-psychopaths are benign about it.

Low Tolerance For Boredom (Also Encompassing Irresponsibility)

Over the span of the last few years I've become - while thinking about things as objectively as I'm capable of anyway - at least a moderate gaming addict, and it's true that I hate to be idle and don't like doing anything that requires long term arduous effort and/or even moderate physical exertion (throughout middle school - high school, whenever I would be assigned projects, I'd usually put off everything until about a week's span where it would be due, and then by that point it would be done at the last minute, and being bluntly honest my mother would do at least 75% of the actual work on my projects, and I don't think anything would've been completely finished if it weren't for her help.
So? My uncle was like that when he was in school, right down to having his work done for him. He has anger management problems and can be unpleasant person to be around, but I wouldn't consider him a psychopath.

One claim that I can make with reference to responsibility is that I have had a few pets over the span of my life, and objectively I think I've done a decent job of both generally caring and practically providing for each of them (strangely, objectively I think I exhibit more positive emotion tied with specific animals that I grow attached to as opposed to humans generally, so maybe I would simply fit the definition of a misanthrope as opposed to a psychopath, as I know that "cruelty to animals" is one of the clinical precursors to psychopathy, and I definitely don't fit that definition).
This may be part of it, actually. If you feel more of an affinity for animals than people, then there's nothing wrong with you. Some people are like that.

Grandiosity/Narcissistic Self-Perception

While younger, my general perception of myself - most specifically with reference to my intellect - tended to be extremely inflated... I'd generally spout comments about how intelligent that I believed myself to be, I'd state my opinions of specific things as if they were fact, (and to some extent still do that now, though not as much as I formerly had)
and generally considered myself smarter and better than most people around me, despite the fact that in terms of academic performance mine was probably just a bit above average at best, and I didn't really excel at much of anything other than understanding fairly abstract concepts.

While originally learning about personality disorders, I'd thought Narcissistic Personality Disorder described a lot of my signature characteristics really well, and I thought I somewhat fit the definition of Anti-Social Personality Disorder too - it seems to me by practical definition those two ideas combined, along with natural inclination for excess hedonism pretty much translates to clinical psychopathy.
I'd be more willing to think you have NPD than to think that you are a psychopath. ...And I don't necessarily think you are a narcissist either. Anyone can have an inflated ego over anything.

As the criteria also specifies, I have a general disdain towards authority; I hate being defined or considered anyone's subordinate, either abstractly or practically, and I hate being told what to do, especially when it's something I'd never want to do otherwise. When I'd taken a general personality inventory test once, I think more than any other trait I scored highest on "anti-authority"... My mother's also made reference to me being very defiant when I was younger (she hasn't said that much recently, and I think my specific defiance of her is probably a bit decreased contrasted with when I was younger, though I am prone to general defiance some of the time of course). I think it's likely I probably would've been defined as having "oppositional defiant disorder" while younger too if I'd been exposed to many clinicians then, which is often a precursor to psychopathy from what I know of as well.
This thread may be of interest to you.

Miscellaneous Ideas I Believe Are Worth Referencing
...As I already referenced at least once within this thread, objectively I'd define myself as naturally choosing to live like an S_P, though I've never tested as a sensor, and most often I test as a J type; most specifically more than any other type I've tested as an INFJ, and I think both the general persona that I possess and my general outlook towards society definitely defies most NFJ conventions (some people could argue this is an issue of gender roles though, based off some of the other things I've read). I've pretty much unconditionally tested as an IN too, and most often that's been at least some form of IN_J (most often when I've taken functional strength tests, Ni tends to be what's strongest for me, so I suppose that correlates logically).
Honestly, I think your hedonism is consistent with inferior Se.

I guess a nice segue with reference to the ambiguous status of what my type is, as this is also possibly correlated with being a psychopath, is that I'm also left-handed. I'm not sure how many clinical/empirical studies have been executed with reference to discerning if there is a correlation with reference to unconventional dexterity, and if whatever people who fit that definition might also be predisposed to being psychopaths, but cited within the wiki article for psychopathy there has been at least one, and the results suggested that there could be a link.
Even if there is a link, not all lefties are psychopaths. A trait that may be statistically higher in a specific population doesn't mean that a person from the general population cannot have that trait.

On a previous personality psychology forum that I'd posted on, someone suggested that being INTP could very simply be defined as being the "left-hand path", although I'm not sure how many specific details they'd cited. Someone else on the same forum had suggested a correlation between being INTP and having Asperger's Syndrome, and a few people who've gotten to know me decently well who have backgrounds in general psychology have suggested as much about me too... I forgot specifically where I'd read this, but within a forum exclusively tied with being INFJ, a person who'd created the thread himself had also defined himself as being left-handed.
I believe there is an autistic INFJ on [email protected]unico , I think. She might be able to give some insight on that. (But I don't know where she is on the autistic spectrum.)

I suppose it could be possible this is just my means of wishing to vent my frustration, though recently I've also become decently obsessed with serial killers and/or mass murderers... As at this point I recognize the fact that my intellect is probably just a bit above average, I possess a decent deal of handicaps, and I'm generally impractical... At this point I believe there's no means I'll ever be able to become conventionally successful with reference to either possessing a respectable job position and/or an impressive income... At the same time, I never wish to be resigned to being nothing more than a societal serf for the rest of my life, so given only the option of fitting that definition or becoming famous for being something heinous, I'd choose the latter... Most specifically with that said I've been interested in mass murder, and I'm not sure whether or not I would feel much remorse I went about doing something like that... Even if I would, my primary reason for not acting on that desire is simply because I wouldn't want to face the consequences of going to jail, and when the time would come where I'd need to kill myself, I believe I probably would act as a coward.
There's a huge difference between fantasies and reality. As an example, some women have rape fantasies (I don't really understand why, but that's not the point right now...). None of them would ever want to be raped in reality. The same principle may apply here.

Within fiction, I also feel the most natural affinity and/or general interest in villainous characters, as from what I can tell they're the only people that ever get what they want anf never have to follow anyone's rules but their own, and that much appeals to me...
Ha, villains are often the most popular characters, actually.

With reference to reasoning that would argue that I'm not a psychopath, the only mental health disorder that I've ever been formally diagnosed with is depression...
Which can explain everything. You might want to apply Occam's razor.

That's all I can say for now. There's work I really should be doing right now, lol. ^_^U
 

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Yeah when you're feeling shitty and have inferior Se, hedonism is par for the course. Whenever I'm feeling especially shitty, I do nothing but binge eat food that is bad for me (but try to eat healthy sometimes simply based on the fact I don't want to hurt my body by prolonged horrible diet), take very little responsibility in my personal life/hygiene, and pretty much lie around doing something with the TV and/or computer all day every day.
 
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Thread starter, you are concerned over whether or not you are a Psychopath and you are ashamed over the possibility that you might be one. You are exhibiting a very strong counterindication to being a Psychopath: you have real emotions about it and you don't want to be one. A real Psychopath wouldn't care at all. You aren't a Psychopath; you're just emotionally stressed.
 

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Thread starter, you are concerned over whether or not you are a Psychopath and you are ashamed over the possibility that you might be one. You are exhibiting a very strong counterindication to being a Psychopath: you have real emotions about it and you don't want to be one. You aren't a psychopath; you're just emotionally stressed.
Correct. A psychopath is aware of their state. They implicitly admit to it, and it is true that they don't have a care in the world if someone in particular knows it, unless there is a legitimate risk of being identified as such by their colleagues, then that is when the fun starts :|
 

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Well, psycho or not, you've identified problems that you can take steps, however small, to fix. A therapist could help you with strategies to change your unwanted behaviors and improve functionality.
 

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Not possible. I've never heard of any case of psychopathy being fixed. And I heavily doubt this person is a psychopath. It's something that develops in toddlers, if not earlier than this, so there's no way this person would have any conception of what normal, non-psychopathic functioning is. So if this person were a psychopath, there's no way they would "want" to be normal, not having any previous conception of it.
 
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Not possible. I've never heard of any case of psychopathy being fixed. And I heavily doubt this person is a psychopath. It's something that develops in toddlers, if not earlier than this, so there's no way this person would have any conception of what normal, non-psychopathic functioning is. So if this person were a psychopath, there's no way they would "want" to be normal, not having any previous conception of it.
No, I don't think he is a "psychopath" but I don't think he is "normal" either. This is just an opportunity to address some issues he has.
I agree that psychopathy cannot be fixed, but it certainly can be treated.
 

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Psychopathy is physiological/neurological, the same nature as sewing a newborn's eyes shut for five years; the synapses simply die off and can not be remade. It sounds like this guy is suffering from chronic depression, coupled with an INxx personality. I don't think a psychopath would be open to therapy, they probably already like themselves the way they are, or are in denial that they need to change, since they have an uncanny ability to rationalize everything malicious they do.
 
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Just because you have some of the traits, that does not make you a psychopath, it just means you have something you need to work on. I can find humor in just about all dark humor and could find a way to twist something to be about murder, hiding bodies, dead babies, etc faster than you could snap, but that does not make my a psychopath. Just because something amuses you in your head does not mean the reality of said situation would give you the same feelings/satisfaction.

If someone said "Kitten in a blender", I would most likely laugh. If I actually saw it take place, I most likely would not and am not entirely sure how I would react. Most likely a mix between disgust and "WTF?".
 

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Psychopathy is physiological/neurological, the same nature as sewing a newborn's eyes shut for five years; the synapses simply die off and can not be remade. It sounds like this guy is suffering from chronic depression, coupled with an INxx personality. I don't think a psychopath would be open to therapy, they probably already like themselves the way they are, or are in denial that they need to change, since they have an uncanny ability to rationalize everything malicious they do.
The neuroplasticity of the brain allows for new pathways to be formed, and the brain to work in a new way. Cognitive behavioral therapy is used for treatment resistant personality disorders, and other disorders where neural pathways are damaged. While a sociopath may not be open to treatment, there are many situations where treatment is forced, i.e. a condition of parole.
 

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The neuroplasticity of the brain allows for new pathways to be formed, and the brain to work in a new way. Cognitive behavioral therapy is used for treatment resistant personality disorders, and other disorders where neural pathways are damaged. While a sociopath may not be open to treatment, there are many situations where treatment is forced, i.e. a condition of parole.
Interesting, I don't recall Dr. Hare mentioning anything about corrigibility in his book Without Conscience. Do you have any sources for this? AFAIK neural plasticity can only go so far, otherwise there would be no such thing as permanent brain damage.
 

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Interesting, I don't recall Dr. Hare mentioning anything about corrigibility in his book Without Conscience. Do you have any sources for this? AFAIK neural plasticity can only go so far, otherwise there would be no such thing as permanent brain damage.
I don't know the limitations of neuroplasticity, but it uses areas of the brain that are not damaged to reroute signals. I'm sure there are serious limitations but the neuroscientific evidence suggests that humans can be trained to feel emotion to some extent,and actually change the nuerological structure of the their brain in the process. Dr. Hare is specifically mentioned in the second article I've listed, he recommends cognitive behavioral/psychosocial approach. Here are a couple of papers which discuss some of this, there are plenty of linked citations to explore also:
Neuroplasticity, Psychosocial Genomics, and the Biopsychosocial Paradigm in the 21st Century
BMC Medicine | Full text | What should be done with antisocial personality disorder in the new edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-V)?
 
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