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Legs are my favorite physical part of a woman. My legs are pretty unhairy for a guy, so I just can't dig legs that are any hairier than mine. I do get it though, and I agree with it. Women shouldn't have to shave if they don't want to. But by not shaving (unless their legs are naturally unhairy) they're pretty much chasing me and millions of others away. Its about physical attraction. Physical attraction has nothing directly to do with sexism. I know that when I grow my beard long, or sometimes even my hair, I am essentially chasing millions of women away. I would rather be with women who can accept those things about me though. So I guess its the same for women with hairy legs. They can just stick to the men (or women) that dig their hairy legs. I'm just saying I'm not one of those men, and there's no reason for me to feel guilty about that. Just like I don't think a woman needs to feel guilty because she can't get past my long beard and long hair. I know I don't have long hair, or that long a beard atm, but I'm talking about most of the time.

Edit: Anyways, the point of this whole post is not to say women need to please me. The point is to say that I'm not gonna feel guilty for rejecting hairy legs, and that doesn't make me "sexist".
 
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I didn't realise it was millions of womens jobs to attract you. You should be happy to attract one woman. I personally find long beards repulsive. But I don't expect men with them to find me attractive.

By the way, I don't like body hair either.
 

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I didn't realise it was millions of womens jobs to attract you. You should be happy to attract one woman. I personally find long beards repulsive. But I don't expect men with them to find me attractive.

By the way, I don't like body hair either.
I didn't say it was millions of women's jobs to attract me. I'm just saying I'm not gonna feel guilty for rejecting hairy legs, and it doesn't make me sexist.
 

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I didn't realise it was millions of womens jobs to attract you. You should be happy to attract one woman. I personally find long beards repulsive. But I don't expect men with them to find me attractive.

By the way, I don't like body hair either.
@chickydoda Triggered much?
 

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@chickydoda Sorry, no hard feelings. I just hate this atmosphere of not being able to say anything without being viewed as "sexist", "racist", "ableist", "anti-LGBTQ", this, that, or the other thing, etc.
 

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I get sick of it too. Best to reject any and all "-ist" labels and go on your hairy merry way.
 

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Mm, even if some say that, I doubt most would stop even if they agree.
I don't like monotonous chores like shaving either, there is no obligation to do it but I still will anyway. People will go through tedium and even pain just to feel good about their image.
 

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Self-grooming is a form of personal hygiene. It's really this simple.
I don't understand the fights and angry debates online, so I decided to avoid reading into these topics. Best decision I've made, can save you from a headache~
 
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Unshaving is pretty too. If it is dark. And one is intoxicated outta being in, or better yet, on crush.
 

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I'd say learn not to sweat the unimportant stuff. I don't like hairy legs on a woman either and I'm certainly not sexist. In what universe is that considered sexist. lol
 
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I honestly don't understand why women get so much in a huff when a man says "I prefer when women shave."
It's okay for men to have preferences. When they advertised 'Mrs. America' they showed a scene where that anti-ERA woman, the show was presented was shocked that that the student in front of her didn't shave her armpits, and the comment section was like a war zone with men, just innocuously saying they preferred shaved women and the women going ballistic at this.
Interestly, my fiance and I just had this conversation haha, because he doesn't mind either way, but I told him I'm absolutely shaving when we're together in person. I think it looks better, personally. It's all a matter of personal taste, and what some people/couples prefer, is honestly no one else's business.
 

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There's nothing wrong with not being attracted to women with unshaved legs, just like (as you said) there's nothing wrong with not being attracted to men with beards etc.

I've never heard of anyone having a problem with that--usually women have more of a problem with things like catcalling or sexual harassment--not "not attracting men when they don't shave."

Of course, a woman could also not find men who can't be attracted to women with unshaven legs attractive and that's okay too--just like it'd be okay for you to not find it attractive if a girl thought your beard was gross or asked you to shave it off.

The only time I can see it being a real problem is if a man is coming up to a random woman and commenting on how she could change her appearance to make herself more attractive to him. It's not because he doesn't like shaved legs--it's because he assumes that she wants to know about what he finds attractive or she wants his input on what she should do with her body to attract him. That's sort of closer to sexual harassment and unwanted male attention though than having a problem with "not attracting men."

If it's a relationship problem--like you start out dating a woman and she shaved, but now she doesn't, then I assume that's just something to bring up (similar to if it happened with a beard). It's up to you guys to figure it out.

The thing is a man or a woman can shave their legs and their beard if they want to--but they are probably not going to be persuaded to do so by behavior that seems entitled or invasive (just judging from my personal experience with men and women and what seems to irk them).

I don't think there's anything wrong with you not liking hairy legs. A lot of women don't like hairy legs either. And usually when that kind of beauty standard is criticized, I don't think it is some kind of blanket judgment on all people who like shaved legs etc. It's normal for people to be socialized to prefer certain gender performances, as it is also normal for people to have fetishes etc. It's fine so long as you're not forcing your ways onto other people,w which I think most women who criticize practices like shaving are taking issue with (the idea that they should be EXPECTED to always have shaven legs). But who knows--everyone is different.

There are plenty of men who are attracted to women who don't shave or who have unconventional hair styles etc. Not because they are obligated, but because they find them attractive. No need to feel guilty.
 

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I honestly don't understand why women get so much in a huff when a man says "I prefer when women shave."
It's okay for men to have preferences. When they advertised 'Mrs. America' they showed a scene where that anti-ERA woman, the show was presented was shocked that that the student in front of her didn't shave her armpits, and the comment section was like a war zone with men, just innocuously saying they preferred shaved women and the women going ballistic at this.
Honestly, if there was some photo of a guy with a beard or a tattoo, and the comment section was full of women whining about how they "aren't attracted to beards" or "tattoos," I'd probably want to tell them to shut the fuck up too.

The world doesn't revolve around what you're attracted to, and everyone else isn't particularly keen to hear about it everywhere. Sure, in some places--but in other places it's just creepy and obnoxious to start commenting on other people's bodies and saying what would make you more attracted to them.

Though I guess it is Mrs. America, so perhaps the audience is conditioned to judge other people's appearances (since it's a competition for that). I never really got what those pageants were about, though some of the costumes are kind of cool.

@Ock I'm not saying that's what you are doing here--I do not believe it is. I can see here you are just talking about your own preferences and how they relate to other people's choices of appearance. I'm just saying that the only time I think it's really a problem is when someone isn't asking for critiques about how attractive they are--I don't think anyone really wants a stranger coming up to them and telling them to do things to their appearance so they will be more attracted to them (that's probably going to freak out a lot of women regardless of whether they shave or not). Which again--I'm not saying you're doing here.
 

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There's nothing wrong with not being attracted to women with unshaved legs, just like (as you said) there's nothing wrong with not being attracted to men with beards etc.

I've never heard of anyone having a problem with that--usually women have more of a problem with things like catcalling or sexual harassment--not "not attracting men when they don't shave."

Of course, a woman could also not find men who can't be attracted to women with unshaven legs attractive and that's okay too--just like it'd be okay for you to not find it attractive if a girl thought your beard was gross or asked you to shave it off.

The only time I can see it being a real problem is if a man is coming up to a random woman and commenting on how she could change her appearance to make herself more attractive to him. It's not because he doesn't like shaved legs--it's because he assumes that she wants to know about what he finds attractive or she wants his input on what she should do with her body to attract him. That's sort of closer to sexual harassment and unwanted male attention though than having a problem with "not attracting men."

If it's a relationship problem--like you start out dating a woman and she shaved, but now she doesn't, then I assume that's just something to bring up (similar to if it happened with a beard). It's up to you guys to figure it out.

The thing is a man or a woman can shave their legs and their beard if they want to--but they are probably not going to be persuaded to do so by behavior that seems entitled or invasive (just judging from my personal experience with men and women and what seems to irk them).

I don't think there's anything wrong with you not liking hairy legs. A lot of women don't like hairy legs either. And usually when that kind of beauty standard is criticized, I don't think it is some kind of blanket judgment on all people who like shaved legs etc. It's normal for people to be socialized to prefer certain gender performances, as it is also normal for people to have fetishes etc. It's fine so long as you're not forcing your ways onto other people,w which I think most women who criticize practices like shaving are taking issue with (the idea that they should be EXPECTED to always have shaven legs). But who knows--everyone is different.

There are plenty of men who are attracted to women who don't shave or who have unconventional hair styles etc. Not because they are obligated, but because they find them attractive. No need to feel guilty.
Yeah it's one thing for a guy to tell his girlfriend "I prefer..."
and a totally different thing for a guy to tell a random stranger "You should..."
I think men who say "I like women who..." is a middle ground statement, that's sometimes okay though.
 
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Yeah it's one thing for a guy to tell his girlfriend "I prefer..."
and a totally different thing for a guy to tell a random stranger "You should..."
I think men who say "I like women who..." is a middle ground statement, that's sometimes okay though.
Yeah--I guess shaving or not-shaving seems sort of personal and intimate though. Imagine a guy coming up to you on the street and being like "I prefer push up bras on girls" or something "I prefer when girls wear high heels and mini skirts," because you're not wearing high heels or a push-up bra or a mini-skirt.

It's just sort kind of not his business and it's quite a presumption that anyone would want to know.

When I was a teen, I had a guy ask me if I'd shave my legs for him. Just some random guy on the street. And I was like "no." I think he was really cocky because he was very conventionally good looking--muscular with a strong jaw, big blue eyes and dark hair. Idk if he thought the porno music would start playing and I'd like pull out a razor and be like "c'mere bb...let me make my legs smooth for ya" but NO! Geeze. I will not shave my legs because some random guy wants me to.

If it's your relationship partner then yeah--talking about things you are attracted to or whatever is normal.
 

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Legs are my favorite physical part of a woman. My legs are pretty unhairy for a guy, so I just can't dig legs that are any hairier than mine. I do get it though, and I agree with it. Women shouldn't have to shave if they don't want to. But by not shaving (unless their legs are naturally unhairy) they're pretty much chasing me and millions of others away. Its about physical attraction. Physical attraction has nothing directly to do with sexism. I know that when I grow my beard long, or sometimes even my hair, I am essentially chasing millions of women away. I would rather be with women who can accept those things about me though. So I guess its the same for women with hairy legs. They can just stick to the men (or women) that dig their hairy legs. I'm just saying I'm not one of those men, and there's no reason for me to feel guilty about that. Just like I don't think a woman needs to feel guilty because she can't get past my long beard and long hair. I know I don't have long hair, or that long a beard atm, but I'm talking about most of the time.

Edit: Anyways, the point of this whole post is not to say women need to please me. The point is to say that I'm not gonna feel guilty for rejecting hairy legs, and that doesn't make me "sexist".
Women shaving is only about 100 years old. As dresses began to become skirts and the lengths began to show more leg, and sleeveless dresses became a thing, an enterprising razor salesman convinced women to shave their pits and legs.

 

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I could tell stories on this but I'll put on limits here.

In response to women liking or not liking beards, I have a short one. However my view is in return I don't go for women with short beards. I guess this is pre-judging as I've never met any.

The other story is a girl I went with shaved not only below the knee but above. I told her I didn't go for that. It wasn't the visual aspect. It was that, ahem, I found it scratchy where smooth was preferred. (Bad me.)

Anyway when I asked her to stop she said it would grow back heavy and look bad. I don't recall what happened after that. When I asked her why she began shaving there, she said she and her girlfriend did it because it was recommended by speed cyclists.
 

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