I think the only reason why SJ x SJ ranks higher than NF x NF is because SJ and another SJ are supposed to be the most “normal” and “well adjusted” people within the very dysfunctional and limiting parameters of our current world, while NF x NF would surely have an even higher satisfaction rate in a better world the main pitfall to such a pairing is if both NFs are equally beat down / helpless when it comes to dealing with the “real world”, whatever that means to the SJs and some SPs.
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I would seriously hesitate dating another SJ, much less marrying one, and true to the numbers I definitely have the best connections with NFs and some NTs too though with NTs I can have more disagreements with how things should be fixed and I do find them drier at times (but their analytical / numerical intelligence tends to be higher than mine and they can approach issues from a more “quantitative” angle while retaining the N) but with other NFs sometimes it goes into a spiral of lamenting about the state of affairs and how we wish things could be different but feeling really powerless and we have a harder time dealing with numbers and data than NTs. I can see myself with an NT though and one of my best friends is an ENTP.
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With SJs their very worldly / materialistic values often upsets me and prevents me from wanting to know them more,
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I find that SJs are more concerned with superficial impressions because of adherence to social structure / the values of what society deems to be respectable, while for SPs it’s more a matter of indulgence and pure ego / misguided and short-sighted sense of self.
Wow, that's a lot of judging / being judgemental and generalizing people - at least same amount I'm doing daily (though I don't mostly generalize information and people)
Don't get me wrong, I'm not offending you or your opinions at all and your thoughts have always been interesting to me here in Cafe - pretty well reasoned, explained and based on self awareness. One of the best. Just wanted to spot out some blind spots because too many people in Cafe with N claim themselves to be more open-minded, leave ends open, have more interesting thoughts and think others can't do that, while they're still pretty judgemental, have ordinary thoughts any other type could have and drive things to concrete direction like any other type
Loads of heavy judging while they claim to be perception doms
Nothing to do with N or S, it's judging. I don't mean you personally, just using your recent thoughts as an example
I think most of my friends in closer circle, including my partner, are NTP, NTJ and one NFP and I haven't observed any unrealistic / out of this world behavior / non-practical actions and thoughts from them. And I'm the one who usually gets more ideas what to do and actually implements them immediately - yea right, one would need N for that or they wouldn't be able
Might be a culture thing, who knows - but at least not to blame or praise a type.
I mistyped myself for a long time and thought me and my partner are Fs and that I'm N too but there's actually no sign of F in either of us - STJ and NTJ. It's pretty rarely that we get into conflicts and misunderstandings and our worldviews are pretty similar - practical, logical and reasoned, without any unnecessary hassle or overcooking emotions and irrational thoughts. Can't see why some unreal and non-practical thinking should be assigned to Ns, at least here where I live. It's just different way to experience world compared to S, nothing supernatural / misunderstood by others. If a person is misunderstood, they are bad explainers - again nothing to do with type
My current understanding is that too different judging styles might lead to more problems in relationship than differences in perceptions. Experienced that in my previous relationships of 15 years. It's obvious because perception is just a way to take in raw information.