Idealismics, What Spiritual INFPS Want, Wish For and Would Like; The Ideal World
A Manifesto for Idealists of Faith
I’ve created a new word which I call Idealismics, meaning everything related to the Idealist’s lifestyle. Ideally, this thread is an invitation, specifically to SPIRITUAL INFPs, those who believe in a shared benign, loving, universal consciousness, to enrich each other by sharing ideas on our favorite Idealistic literature, music, poems, fantasies, dreams, short stories written by us and others, eroticism, futurism, the need for human kindness, best food, whatever appeals to our fancies, within the boundaries of the host rules, as long as it can be described as idealistic, based on positive loving ideas. I am sure there are lots of non-idealists out there. Please, give this thread a pass if you are not an Idealist. Idealists, in common with others, are hard (impossible?) to change. Perhaps we are all set in our molds. Let’s just accept that other points of view exist without anyone trying to convert anyone else. (The Pygmalion Effect) I personally don’t want to lead, and I don’t want to follow. I just want to communicate, straight across, without hierarchies. That doesn't mean anarchy. There are ordinary rules of kindness, decorum and respect; common humanity is still there.
We INFPs represent only 2% of the overall population, so we promise not to overwhelm the other 15 personality types right away. So, no need to feel threatened!
If we look at a chart of the frequency of personality types, we can see that sensory types represent 73% overall of the population, 40.5% SJs and 33% SPs. So, most of the population believes in and trusts the senses, primarily. That’s wonderful and I have enjoyed the senses greatly and see their necessity on the material plane. However, the senses are faulty tools when we want to go beyond materialistic thinking. Many optical illusions can tell us we are not perceiving fully or correctly. I won’t go into them here. ‘If that’s all there is’ (Sounds like a song.), sensory experience, then that’s sad IMO (In my opinion). Over time, the residues from sensory living begin to clutter up the inner world, generating attachment to sensory memories, to the good ol’ times, which freeze up the system, the OS (Operating System), until we live in the past even while here in the present. To find our buried happiness, IMO, we need to reset/reformat our hard-drives = readjust/empty our thought contents/reservoir. There are certain yogic and other tools to do this, and so bring us into the present. I’m in the process of doing this. It’s a lengthy one so it’s nice to have companionship on the way.
To appreciate the invisible which materialists often deny is important or worthwhile, despite all the various wavelengths of radiation invisible to the human eye passing though what we once thought of as ‘empty’ space, we need active intuition, imagination, a going beyond the regular 5 senses. That’s what INFPs like to do. And many have contributed greatly to humanity as teachers, writers, inspirers...So, while we should have steady, well-paid work and be good citizens, and while we have benefitted from science which has produced wonderful devices, IT’S NOT ENOUGH. The World is Not Enough! Where have I heard that? Oh yeah, a movie! Science and technology, and their ideology, materialism, cannot explain emotions, love, mystery, wonder, divine ecstasy, what life itself is, everything subjective. The existence of any real objectivity is now being questioned more and more, and, objective reproducibility of results is the basis of our scientific method! Without going into detail, try understanding Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle, which states that we subjectively influence whatever experiment we are trying to objectively observe, and so falsify any results. As Heraclitus the ancient Greek stated so simply yet profoundly, “We never swim in the same stream twice.” So, so much for a final, all-encompassing Truth in science, a final Unified Field Theory, the Holy Grail of science, Einstein’s dream. After all, wouldn't it be really boring if we had explained or could explain everything! IMO, we never will. It (The central mystery) is outside time and space and yet generated these. So, since we can’t beat god, better to join it, to joyously merge into it! Accept that we are only the players in a divine drama, a cosmic dreamer’s play. Allow our egos to evaporate like mists before the rays of the morning sun.
Physicists and quantum mechanics now tell us there may be 11 dimensions present in what we thought was only one. What is ‘real’ to the senses is being questioned more and more by ever larger segments of our population as we get better educated about the rest of the world through new media. There may be a mini-awakening happening, or this could just be a cyclic event. I would hesitate in overstating the case. In any case, INFPs, let’s not be dragged down by our society’s endless obsession with materialism and with that most depressing of studies, economics, a study of limitations. After all, economics is just the study of the allocation of scarce/limited resources, yet we know from science that there is an infinite variety, an abundance of resources in the universe. The Law of Conservation of Mass-Energy ensures us that the totality of all that is, is not going anywhere. The quantitative sum of material-energy was, is and always will be constant in the universe. Perhaps this is the materialist’s ultimate expression of god. Yet, I would say there is more, that the universe is ‑ intelligent. After all, if we humans all came from the Big Bang and we are intelligent, then it would be logical to conclude that there must have been intelligence, awareness, consciousness in the Big Bang. So, the universe is intelligent, as is every atom. How could we be intelligent and aware if our constituent atoms were dead and unaware? Atoms are intelligent, too. This goes beyond what a materialist would accept, yet the logic is there. Super-string theory is starting to realize there is a fundamental unpassable intelligence at the deepest level which will always frustrate the mind’s attempt to quantity and box in intelligence-awareness itself. Even the god particle’s discovery, the Higg’s Boson, didn’t allow the human mind to feel it had triumphed over its creator, but that’s just what the mind in its vanity thinks it will eventually do. That’s why god stays aloof and untouched by its creation, the creator untouchable, untarnished by its creation. It’s safest for us all that way. As for our current state of limited resources, IMO, we’re just technologically and temporarily unable to access them for everybody on a daily basis. But, I’m confident we will be. Oh, isn’t it a shame there aren’t more sparkly stones (diamonds) to be found to buy the bread people need? I guess they’re being held in the basement De Beers’ vault of a NY City bank, waiting for imagined scarcity to make them more valuable! So much for the real scarcity of resources!
We live and die without having lived if we stay inside the sensory box the whole time, obeying our conditioning like sheep. So, give us all freedom from the tyranny and unending addictive grossness of the senses! While I’m grateful to materialism for what we have, it’s still only a necessary but insufficient condition for full happiness. Obsessing over money, power, status, the ephemerals, just isn’t satisfying to Idealists. To access the levels beyond, gentle surrender of the control of the worldly senses is required. That doesn’t mean we go crazy or die physically. It’s just a letting go of the obsession with sensory activity, a trust in a greater/higher benign power. That way we can go past our limiting senses and minds.
Having said all that, and now coming back down to Earth, going beyond the senses is quite ambitious for most of us, so let’s start by sharing the inspiring materials we find around us.
The objective is to know ourselves, our personality type, and each other better, while learning new things which can be offered as a smorgasbord to the participants. As well, since there are so few of us in the overall population, we can build some solidarity as we deal with a world made up of others who are less idealistic. Because INFPs like to help others, we can help each other by suggesting our favorite, most inspiring resources.
There are no right or wrong answers here. We’re just filtering for Idealistic thinking.
I’ll start the ball rolling by saying I like spiritually related Idealistic-type reading like Carlos Castaneda, The Gospel of Ramakrishna, and the Tao Te Ching.
What books, literature do you like?
I like Tears of the Sun with Bruce Willis, and Monica Bellucci, where the hero goes in and saves humanitarian/medical workers from certain death from political turmoil. I haven’t yet worked out the issues of violence sometimes needed to make ‘good’ things happen. Does control of violence necessitate greater violence? I still struggle with this.
I like Romantics Anonymus with Benoit Poelvoorde, Isabelle Carré, Lorella Cravotta. This one’s pretty idealistic.
What movies do you like, and why?
I like Rotten Tomatoes as movie critics. Who are good movie critics in your opinion?
Tuan’s ramble:
I would like to Save the Planet, grow more trees, stop the destruction of our ozone layer, reverse African desertification, prevent dictators from ever existing, have universally respected human rights, stop killing the remaining wildlife, have short term limits for all holders of public office, have periodic electronic voting, have patent rights on cures for world diseases limited so that cures enter the public domain and costs are reduced.
I would like to have a world organization with a force built up of and obligatorily paid for by all nation states, which actually intervenes to remove dictators and end regional injustices BEFORE the damage is done.
What would you like?
I would like all scientists to work together in one world-funded organization to find cures for all the major diseases, rather than working primarily for corporate profits and personal gain.
What would you like?
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