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So I'm clueless as to what my type is. I'm not even sure what my MBTI type is, I just put INTJ because I always test as it. I'm either INTJ, INTP, or ISTJ. Anyway, that doesn't matter. I wanna know what my Socionics type is. I'm thinking it could be one of these 4: ILI, LII, LSI, or SLI (though SLI is least likely to me). I think I'm most likely one of those 4, but if you think I'm something else, feel free to share. I'm open to any.

So here are my answers to this questionnaire:

Personal concepts
1. What is beauty? What is love?

Beauty is finding value in something and being able to appreciate it. For me personally, beauty can be found in an idea, book, poetry, scientific discoveries, etc. Anything that is intellectually stimulating I consider beautiful. I also consider great accomplishments beautiful, such as the lunar landing.
Love is a chemical reaction within the brain.

2. What are your most important values?

Knowledge, intelligence, competence, understanding, a strong work ethic, and (brutal) honesty.

3. Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?

I was raised Catholic and went to Catholic school all my life. But after hearing the same stuff over and over again, you start craving depth. And no one around me was able to provide me with that depth; it was all textbook theology. so I did my own thinking and realized that a lot of the stuff my religion taught me could be explained another way or was wrong. I especially had a problem with consciousness being caused by the soul, the notion that something cannot come from nothing regarding the creation of the universe (no it isn't "common sense"), and objective morality. Whoever I talked to could either never understand what I was saying or just didn't care. In a theology class of about 200 people, there was a question box, and only 7 questions were in them. All of them were mine. The teacher tried to answer one, but everyone in the classroom started asking their own questions, and the teacher got mad, so he stopped after that first question and we never had a question answering time again. Right now I'd consider myself agnostic.

4. Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?

I hate wars and hate the fact that we "have to" have militaries. I don't understand why people will willingly follow the commands of their country's leader to go to war when most people don't care about politics or resources. Consider the California drought last year. The governor couldn't get people to recognize it's a serious problem because people don't care about resources, where they come from, who made them, etc. War is all about stealing resources, and the people who don't care about them will go to war for them. Now not all countries have armies for this sole reason. But why do they have militaries then? Well, every country will say "to protect ourselves." If that's so, then what is the point? If every country disbanded their armies, I guess, in theory, war would disappear. But I also suppose that someone crazed with power will rise to an authoritative position and start building an army to crush his opponents. But why do people follow that dictator's commands? I guess the Milgram Experiment does prove something.
Power is something that shouldn't be given to just one person. It's responsibility, and that responsibility should be checked by the people, not blindly accepted.

Interests
5. What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?

I don't really have long conversations, so I consider myself very introverted. But when I do, it tends to be over text and about something scientifically or philosophically related. For instance, my cross country team has a group text. I usually tend to start philosophical debates in it, and the team captains continually ask me to stop, but I just steamroll over them. If I have to put up with you constantly talking about gossip, celebrities, sports, and general small talk, then you have to put up with my debates. I'm interested in philosophy, theology, and physics because they're all different ways of understanding the world, how it works, and why. They're my interests because I want to understand the world. I also like to debate, read, and run. I also tend to have a long monologue when I'm describing one of my ideas or one of my insights.

6. Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?

I'm not interested in health as a conversation topic, but I'll be interested in discussing medicine if it's about the theory or recent develops in medical technology. I am somewhat focused on my body so that I can run cross country and track at my best, or in fear of dying from some sort of illness, but I wouldn't say it's one of my top priorities. Though I also give it importance because a healthy body leads to a healthy mind. I'm pretty paranoid about my health. Whenever I have a headache I instantly think "brain tumor!"

7. What do you think of daily chores?

I don't give daily chores that much attention. I don't pay much attention to my surroundings so what's the point in maintaining them? Plus whenever I finish a chore I don't feel a sense of accomplishment. Instead I think "Ok so I'm gonna have to do this tomorrow and the next day and the day after, so forget it. Not worth my time."

8. Books or films you liked? Recently read/watched or otherwise. Examples welcome.

Movies: Interstellar, Inception, Edge of Tomorrow, Ender's Game, Snow Piercer, Star Wars, Hunger Games, Divergent, Maze Runner,

Books: Old Man's War, A Brief History of Time, The Scarlet Letter, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Ender's Game, Center of Gravity, The Game, Divergent, Hunger Games, Rot and Ruin.

9. What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?

Not much has made me cry. But I'd say stress because, well, stress. Jokes that you "just have to get" and unintentional puns make me smile, but my jokes don't tend to make others smile because they don't understand them and/or they go right over their heads. But when they do catch/understand them, they laugh uncontrollably.

10. Where do you feel: at one with the environment/a sense of belonging?

I guess I felt at one with the environment during a trip to Alaska. I feel a sense of belonging in my physics, and chemistry classes because I excel in those classes. I also really feel a sense of belonging in Philosophy Club. I tend to feel detached in most group situations (mostly because the conversations they have are a bore) and I'm absolutely fine with that. I don't feel a need to fit in.

Evaluation & Behaviour
11. What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?

Weaknesses according to others: arrogance, Blaming others, being too honest, not being outgoing, being shy. I'm also told I'm never in the present: I'm always thinking ahead, or occasionally bemoaning some mistakes/embarrassing moments in the past. But I've recently become very good at moving on. Sometimes failing is equally, if not more important than succeeding. I'm also told I disregard others' emotions with my "take no prisoners" debate style.

Dislike about myself: Being unable to easily provide emotional support (only logical solutions) and not being more sociable. Not being able to "enjoy the moment" and "smell the roses."

12. What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?

People have said I'm very smart, hard working, creative, insightful, and those are the things I like about myself. I also like that I'm very objective. I like that I'm able to draw connections between things, which allows me to deepen my understandings and insights.

13. In what areas of your life would you like help?

Staying in the moment. Stopping to "smell the roses." Being more outgoing.

14. Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.

Yes. Causes include obsessing over an idea or plan for the future and making sure every single detail works out. I'm really a perfectionist, and it gets really annoying. I try to move on to another idea and convince myself these minute details don't matter in the grand scheme of things.

People & Interactions
15. What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?

Like: Intelligent, competent, honest, and logical people. People who I can have a deep and intelligent conversation about.

Dislike: Incompetence. Idiots. Superficial people who I can't have an intellectually deep conversation with. Overly emotional people, people who care obsessively about what others think about them, people who like small talk. People who don't care about my insights because they don't understand them or because they take everything at face value.

For example: At a birthday party, when the person whose birthday we were celebrating was blowing out the candles on his cake, I wondered why we blow out candles on birthdays. It suddenly occurred to me that the candles represent the light of life, and we are dying each year, so it is fitting that we blow them out each year. Although this might sound depressing to some, I think that it's a good reminder to live life to the fullest. When I told my friend about this he said: "Or... we blow out candles because it's cool and fun to do." -_-

16. How do you feel about romance/sex? What qualities do you want in a partner?

I think I prefer to be single. But if I wanted a partner, she would have to be someone whom I can share my insights and ideas with.

17. If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?

My biggest priority would be allowing my child to receive a good education so he can understand the world around him and analyze it and come up with his own theories and ideas about how it all works.

18. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?

I'll try to understand them at first, as my beliefs are constantly changing. I say, "ok this makes sense now, so I'll believe it until a better alternative is brought up." If my friend's beliefs hold, I'll happily replace mine with them. But if the beliefs are not sound, I will try to start a debate if they're up to it. Even if his beliefs are better than mine, I'll try to disprove them as much as I can, whether I do it internally or externally depends on the person's willingness to debate.

19. Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.

I don't feel like I fit in with society. I despise pop culture, and it seems like that's all anyone talks about. For this reason, I see people as superficial and stupid to put it bluntly lol. A prevalent social problem would be discrimination, in all forms.

20. How do you choose your friends and how do you behave around them?

Around friends I'm usually very serious and try to discuss serious questions. But around close friends I can loosen up and joke around.

21. How do you behave around strangers?

Around strangers, I'm very taciturn and polite. People who meet for the first time always say that I look like a serial killer because I look like I'm plotting something all the time. It gets pretty annoying

This questionnaire was created by several people:
@esq - the author of original questions, most of which are included in the current version.
@aconite (me) - responsible for starting the attempt to create a questionnaire, compiling and polishing questions.

Also, I'd like to thank our contributors/critics/co-authors (in alphabetical order): @[email protected] @Lea T @Paradigm @PimpinMcBoltage @Pro bably @StellarTwirl
 

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I'd guess LII. I see Ti everywhere and Ni (blrtday cake!). Ti seems more conciously valued. Sl seems pretty bad (brain tumor becaus of headache ? Sound like an anxious thought) and overall complaining about not belng able to "smell the roses".
LII-Ne is my impression for what its worth. I cant delve into analyzing OP much further but somebody else will, well, probably.:unsure:
 

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Sl seems pretty bad (brain tumor becaus of headache ? Sound like an anxious thought)
Is that really bad Si? Because that's something that I thought a couple years ago lmao. It might just be my general anxious personality, but overreaction to lingering physical sensations like headaches is something that I do more times than I would like, especially when I was younger.
 

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Is that really bad Si? Because that's something that I thought a couple years ago lmao. It might just be my general anxious personality, but overreaction to lingering physical sensations like headaches is something that I do more times than I would like, especially when I was younger.
I think it could be anxiety for you, but i dont know if he's only paranoid about bodily sensations/aches etc. its usually (if not always) weak sensing.
I know an Ne-dom, ILE, I haven't seen him anxious but like sometimes his hand hurts and he starts researching bone diseases only to remember he just hit it(his hand) at somewhere .
 

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I think it could be anxiety for you, but i dont know if he's only paranoid about bodily sensations/aches etc. its usually (if not always) weak sensing.
I know an Ne-dom, ILE, I haven't seen him anxious but like sometimes his hand hurts and he starts researching bone diseases only to remember he just hit it(his hand) at somewhere .
Maybe this will help with Si:
I always need to be reminded to eat. I almost never feel hunger. I'm either too focused on what I'm doing to remember to eat, or I just forget. I also dislike eating because it wastes time. If I could, I'd open up my stomach and just put the food in there. Or maybe I would just plug myself into an outlet for energy while doing my work if I could. XD. For these reasons, I generally don't care what I eat, and I can eat the same meal for months.
 

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Maybe this will help with Si:
I always need to be reminded to eat. I almost never feel hunger. I'm either too focused on what I'm doing to remember to eat, or I just forget. I also dislike eating because it wastes time. If I could, I'd open up my stomach and just put the food in there. Or maybe I would just plug myself into an outlet for energy while doing my work if I could. XD. For these reasons, I generally don't care what I eat, and I can eat the same meal for months.
I guess we can safely say you are no sensing ego :)
Ili or lii for sure (unless you are a feeling type but that doesnt have any chance imo).
My money is on LII. I put 20 bucks on it :kitteh:
But you dont seem to be valuing Si, at least less than i thought for a lii. I'd put 68 bucks before. @Word Dispenser may shed more light on the issue, identifying if your an alpha friend or gamma nemesis.
 

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I guess we can safely say you are no sensing ego :)
Ili or lii for sure (unless you are a feeling type but that doesnt have any chance imo).
My money is on LII. I put 20 bucks on it :kitteh:
But you dont seem to be valuing Si, at least less than i thought for a lii. I'd put 68 bucks before. @Word Dispenser may shed more light on the issue, identifying if your an alpha friend or gamma nemesis.
Thanks for your input!
 

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So I'm clueless as to what my type is. I'm not even sure what my MBTI type is, I just put INTJ because I always test as it. I'm either INTJ, INTP, or ISTJ. Anyway, that doesn't matter. I wanna know what my Socionics type is. I'm thinking it could be one of these 4: ILI, LII, LSI, or SLI (though SLI is least likely to me). I think I'm most likely one of those 4, but if you think I'm something else, feel free to share. I'm open to any.

So here are my answers to this questionnaire:

Personal concepts
1. What is beauty? What is love?

Beauty is finding value in something and being able to appreciate it. For me personally, beauty can be found in an idea, book, poetry, scientific discoveries, etc. Anything that is intellectually stimulating I consider beautiful. I also consider great accomplishments beautiful, such as the lunar landing.
Love is a chemical reaction within the brain.

2. What are your most important values?

Knowledge, intelligence, competence, understanding, a strong work ethic, and (brutal) honesty.

3. Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?

I was raised Catholic and went to Catholic school all my life. But after hearing the same stuff over and over again, you start craving depth. And no one around me was able to provide me with that depth; it was all textbook theology. so I did my own thinking and realized that a lot of the stuff my religion taught me could be explained another way or was wrong. I especially had a problem with consciousness being caused by the soul, the notion that something cannot come from nothing regarding the creation of the universe (no it isn't "common sense"), and objective morality. Whoever I talked to could either never understand what I was saying or just didn't care. In a theology class of about 200 people, there was a question box, and only 7 questions were in them. All of them were mine. The teacher tried to answer one, but everyone in the classroom started asking their own questions, and the teacher got mad, so he stopped after that first question and we never had a question answering time again. Right now I'd consider myself agnostic.

4. Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?

I hate wars and hate the fact that we "have to" have militaries. I don't understand why people will willingly follow the commands of their country's leader to go to war when most people don't care about politics or resources. Consider the California drought last year. The governor couldn't get people to recognize it's a serious problem because people don't care about resources, where they come from, who made them, etc. War is all about stealing resources, and the people who don't care about them will go to war for them. Now not all countries have armies for this sole reason. But why do they have militaries then? Well, every country will say "to protect ourselves." If that's so, then what is the point? If every country disbanded their armies, I guess, in theory, war would disappear. But I also suppose that someone crazed with power will rise to an authoritative position and start building an army to crush his opponents. But why do people follow that dictator's commands? I guess the Milgram Experiment does prove something.
Power is something that shouldn't be given to just one person. It's responsibility, and that responsibility should be checked by the people, not blindly accepted.

Interests
5. What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?

I don't really have long conversations, so I consider myself very introverted. But when I do, it tends to be over text and about something scientifically or philosophically related. For instance, my cross country team has a group text. I usually tend to start philosophical debates in it, and the team captains continually ask me to stop, but I just steamroll over them. If I have to put up with you constantly talking about gossip, celebrities, sports, and general small talk, then you have to put up with my debates. I'm interested in philosophy, theology, and physics because they're all different ways of understanding the world, how it works, and why. They're my interests because I want to understand the world. I also like to debate, read, and run. I also tend to have a long monologue when I'm describing one of my ideas or one of my insights.

6. Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?

I'm not interested in health as a conversation topic, but I'll be interested in discussing medicine if it's about the theory or recent develops in medical technology. I am somewhat focused on my body so that I can run cross country and track at my best, or in fear of dying from some sort of illness, but I wouldn't say it's one of my top priorities. Though I also give it importance because a healthy body leads to a healthy mind. I'm pretty paranoid about my health. Whenever I have a headache I instantly think "brain tumor!"

7. What do you think of daily chores?

I don't give daily chores that much attention. I don't pay much attention to my surroundings so what's the point in maintaining them? Plus whenever I finish a chore I don't feel a sense of accomplishment. Instead I think "Ok so I'm gonna have to do this tomorrow and the next day and the day after, so forget it. Not worth my time."

8. Books or films you liked? Recently read/watched or otherwise. Examples welcome.

Movies: Interstellar, Inception, Edge of Tomorrow, Ender's Game, Snow Piercer, Star Wars, Hunger Games, Divergent, Maze Runner,

Books: Old Man's War, A Brief History of Time, The Scarlet Letter, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Ender's Game, Center of Gravity, The Game, Divergent, Hunger Games, Rot and Ruin.

9. What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?

Not much has made me cry. But I'd say stress because, well, stress. Jokes that you "just have to get" and unintentional puns make me smile, but my jokes don't tend to make others smile because they don't understand them and/or they go right over their heads. But when they do catch/understand them, they laugh uncontrollably.

10. Where do you feel: at one with the environment/a sense of belonging?

I guess I felt at one with the environment during a trip to Alaska. I feel a sense of belonging in my physics, and chemistry classes because I excel in those classes. I also really feel a sense of belonging in Philosophy Club. I tend to feel detached in most group situations (mostly because the conversations they have are a bore) and I'm absolutely fine with that. I don't feel a need to fit in.

Evaluation & Behaviour
11. What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?

Weaknesses according to others: arrogance, Blaming others, being too honest, not being outgoing, being shy. I'm also told I'm never in the present: I'm always thinking ahead, or occasionally bemoaning some mistakes/embarrassing moments in the past. But I've recently become very good at moving on. Sometimes failing is equally, if not more important than succeeding. I'm also told I disregard others' emotions with my "take no prisoners" debate style.

Dislike about myself: Being unable to easily provide emotional support (only logical solutions) and not being more sociable. Not being able to "enjoy the moment" and "smell the roses."

12. What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?

People have said I'm very smart, hard working, creative, insightful, and those are the things I like about myself. I also like that I'm very objective. I like that I'm able to draw connections between things, which allows me to deepen my understandings and insights.

13. In what areas of your life would you like help?

Staying in the moment. Stopping to "smell the roses." Being more outgoing.

14. Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.

Yes. Causes include obsessing over an idea or plan for the future and making sure every single detail works out. I'm really a perfectionist, and it gets really annoying. I try to move on to another idea and convince myself these minute details don't matter in the grand scheme of things.

People & Interactions
15. What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?

Like: Intelligent, competent, honest, and logical people. People who I can have a deep and intelligent conversation about.

Dislike: Incompetence. Idiots. Superficial people who I can't have an intellectually deep conversation with. Overly emotional people, people who care obsessively about what others think about them, people who like small talk. People who don't care about my insights because they don't understand them or because they take everything at face value.

For example: At a birthday party, when the person whose birthday we were celebrating was blowing out the candles on his cake, I wondered why we blow out candles on birthdays. It suddenly occurred to me that the candles represent the light of life, and we are dying each year, so it is fitting that we blow them out each year. Although this might sound depressing to some, I think that it's a good reminder to live life to the fullest. When I told my friend about this he said: "Or... we blow out candles because it's cool and fun to do." -_-

16. How do you feel about romance/sex? What qualities do you want in a partner?

I think I prefer to be single. But if I wanted a partner, she would have to be someone whom I can share my insights and ideas with.

17. If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?

My biggest priority would be allowing my child to receive a good education so he can understand the world around him and analyze it and come up with his own theories and ideas about how it all works.

18. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?

I'll try to understand them at first, as my beliefs are constantly changing. I say, "ok this makes sense now, so I'll believe it until a better alternative is brought up." If my friend's beliefs hold, I'll happily replace mine with them. But if the beliefs are not sound, I will try to start a debate if they're up to it. Even if his beliefs are better than mine, I'll try to disprove them as much as I can, whether I do it internally or externally depends on the person's willingness to debate.

19. Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.

I don't feel like I fit in with society. I despise pop culture, and it seems like that's all anyone talks about. For this reason, I see people as superficial and stupid to put it bluntly lol. A prevalent social problem would be discrimination, in all forms.

20. How do you choose your friends and how do you behave around them?

Around friends I'm usually very serious and try to discuss serious questions. But around close friends I can loosen up and joke around.

21. How do you behave around strangers?

Around strangers, I'm very taciturn and polite. People who meet for the first time always say that I look like a serial killer because I look like I'm plotting something all the time. It gets pretty annoying

This questionnaire was created by several people:
@esq - the author of original questions, most of which are included in the current version.
@aconite (me) - responsible for starting the attempt to create a questionnaire, compiling and polishing questions.

Also, I'd like to thank our contributors/critics/co-authors (in alphabetical order): @[email protected] @Lea T @Paradigm @PimpinMcBoltage @Pro bably @StellarTwirl
You do sound like an LII. < redacted >

But just to be sure, could you pick a quadra? Quadra - Wikisocion
 

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I guess we can safely say you are no sensing ego :)
Ili or lii for sure (unless you are a feeling type but that doesnt have any chance imo).
My money is on LII. I put 20 bucks on it :kitteh:
But you dont seem to be valuing Si, at least less than i thought for a lii. I'd put 68 bucks before. @Word Dispenser may shed more light on the issue, identifying if your an alpha friend or gamma nemesis.
I don't think that's an unreasonable typing, really. It's weird that most LIIs tend to ignore Si stuff.

I don't know about other ILEs, but I love food. Good food. And comfort. And chocolate.. Well, to be honest, I am not very picky about what I eat. But I can kind of overdo it and/or binge. :kitteh:

The LII that I know personally tends to be veerryyyy picky about food when they do eat, and wish they could just have that need fulfilled without having to bother to eat... So, pretty much reflecting our friend here.

But I don't know if this is a common thing among LIIs, or if this is just a certain niche of people who just eat to live and are picky about what they eat. It could be the overactive mobilizing function. :kitteh:
 

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Maybe this will help with Si:
I always need to be reminded to eat. I almost never feel hunger. I'm either too focused on what I'm doing to remember to eat, or I just forget. I also dislike eating because it wastes time. If I could, I'd open up my stomach and just put the food in there. Or maybe I would just plug myself into an outlet for energy while doing my work if I could. XD. For these reasons, I generally don't care what I eat, and I can eat the same meal for months.
I read recently that there is some way now to just drink your meals and it doesn't cost too much afaik. I didn't check it out further.

Anyway, type, I saw Si seeking when you mentioned smelling the roses so I'll go with LII over ILI. Ne subtype because you describe how your mind is pretty changeable.
 

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Alright, looks like the consensus is LII. LII it is then. Now I just gotta figure out my MBTI type. Thank you everyone!
 

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Alright, looks like the consensus is LII. LII it is then. Now I just gotta figure out my MBTI type. Thank you everyone!
MBTI should be the same Ti-Ne.
 

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I've only skimmed it throught but honestly most of it looks like you're describing enneagram type 5 :tongue:

Do you have any other quesionnaire? May be MBTI one.
 

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I've only skimmed it throught but honestly most of it looks like you're describing enneagram type 5 :tongue:

Do you have any other quesionnaire? May be MBTI one.
I don't really know anything about enneagram. I took a test once and got 5w6. I'll be sure to do an MBTI questionnaire.
 

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I don't believe the two systems directly correlate. I've seen that MBTI INTJS are kind of evenly split between LII and ILI.
MBTI INTJ is not Ti-Ne, it's Ni-Te. If you are LII in socionics, I don't find it likely you are going to identify with the MBTI INTJ descriptions because those emphasize the preference of practicality over theorizing to fully understand a system. The latter is what MBTI INTP is about.

I did not say the systems are 1:1 corresponding to each other however; but yes Ti and Ne are largely the same thing and that was my point. A few other functions are more different across the two systems.
 

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I don't think that's an unreasonable typing, really. It's weird that most LIIs tend to ignore Si stuff.

I don't know about other ILEs, but I love food. Good food. And comfort. And chocolate.. Well, to be honest, I am not very picky about what I eat. But I can kind of overdo it and/or binge. :kitteh:

The LII that I know personally tends to be veerryyyy picky about food when they do eat, and wish they could just have that need fulfilled without having to bother to eat... So, pretty much reflecting our friend here.

But I don't know if this is a common thing among LIIs, or if this is just a certain niche of people who just eat to live and are picky about what they eat. It could be the overactive mobilizing function. :kitteh:
Because 2d. 2d is always more discriminating about applying a certain rule for that ie that holds true across all situations.
 
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