[Zheeph]

Hi, fellow INTJs. I'll try not to make this neither too boring or too long.
All my life I've had this huge thirst to know everything. And I feel like I'm absolutely powerless until I do, specially since my best friend is an ENTP and I keep thinking the guy knows everything, therefore I always feel and KNOW that I'm always one (or a thousand) steps behind.
I keep finding new things that would be great for me to excel at and I need to know the basis and the rest about all those things that keep popping up in my head.
I also keep going back to the thought that I'm not good enough for a job until I know everything I need to know about it and maybe even more than that to actually send my resumé.
Do you have this/these problem(s) too?
If so, how do you cope? How do you decide what to choose, and how long do you take (both to choose and to realize you already know enough)?

 

[Acerbusvenator]

The answer is 42

 

[Zheeph]

The answer is 42

It's obvious that you're trying to make me think.
Don't think I'm trying to be lazy, but i'd at least like to know in what measurement unit that is.

I got it after a while. Sorry for being slow.

 

[HighClassSavage]

It's obvious that you're trying to make me think.
Don't think I'm trying to be lazy, but i'd at least like to know in what measurement unit that is.

I got it after a while. Sorry for being slow.

You actually Thought Deep. How ironic.

 

[Zheeph]

You actually Thought Deep. How ironic.

That would usually be the case.

 

[will-o'-wisp]

luckily for INFPs, we already know everything, but don't tell anyone!

 

[WildImagineer]

Start here: ck12.org

 

[Enormous Hatred]

There are limits to the usefulness of pure knowledge. Assimilating factoids and concrete systems is good in the sense that experience is good, but ultimately it is reliant on what was accepted at a specific point in time in the past rather than adapting to current trends.

it's also more of an Si tendency than it is Ni

 

[kyliecarefree]

The answer is 42

Actually, according to this guy the answer is 3+1. The video I linked is pretty much over my head but I just googled him and am going to start nice and easy with his TED talk.

/end of digression

 

[phony]

*whispers* smoke pot

 

[MirrorSmile]

How do you decide what to choose, and how long do you take (both to choose and to realize you already know enough)?

I think you will never know enough. Ever. But I don't think that should stop you from sending your resumé and taking action. It's good to be prepared, of course, but you shouldn't stop at just being prepared. Or else you'll never move forward.

You can still learn on the job, after all. It might even be that you will learn more on the job than in trying to prepare for it.

But don't listen to me. I'm not old enough to get a job, so I may as well be spouting nonsense.

 

[Zheeph]

There are limits to the usefulness of pure knowledge. Assimilating factoids and concrete systems is good in the sense that experience is good, but ultimately it is reliant on what was accepted at a specific point in time in the past rather than adapting to current trends.

it's also more of an Si tendency than it is Ni

I won't say that your argument wasn't well constructed. But I don't think there's such a thing as "pure knowledge". Knowledge varies in a lot of ways, hence my need to keep knowing more and more without really knowing where to stop. In addition to the knowledge I keep realizing I also have to know in which ways the knowledge varies.
In this sense, yeah it's Si. But I don't feel right doing it, therefore I feel that I'm somewhat going against my own type.
Hence the creation of this thread. I'm trying to avoid that.

 

[Zheeph]

How do you decide what to choose, and how long do you take (both to choose and to realize you already know enough)?

I think you will never know enough. Ever. But I don't think that should stop you from sending your resumé and taking action. It's good to be prepared, of course, but you shouldn't stop at just being prepared. Or else you'll never move forward.

You can still learn on the job, after all. It might even be that you will learn more on the job than in trying to prepare for it.

But don't listen to me. I'm not old enough to get a job, so I may as well be spouting nonsense.

That would be Se, which would be entirely correct for someone of this MBTI type to do. But (now I don't think I'm the only one here who is like this) I want to achieve perfection while knowing I can't have it. So if something, I want to be excellent. What's the point of doing your job if you know it's not going to be done right?

 

[EmpireConquered]

Hi, fellow INTJs. I'll try not to make this neither too boring or too long.
All my life I've had this huge thirst to know everything. And I feel like I'm absolutely powerless until I do, specially since my best friend is an ENTP and I keep thinking the guy knows everything, therefore I always feel and KNOW that I'm always one (or a thousand) steps behind.
I keep finding new things that would be great for me to excel at and I need to know the basis and the rest about all those things that keep popping up in my head.
I also keep going back to the thought that I'm not good enough for a job until I know everything I need to know about it and maybe even more than that to actually send my resumé.
Do you have this/these problem(s) too?
If so, how do you cope? How do you decide what to choose, and how long do you take (both to choose and to realize you already know enough)?

Yeah, ENTPs are awesome.

 

[Zheeph]

Yeah, ENTPs are awesome.

You lose only to ENFPs.

 

[EmpireConquered]

You lose only to ENFPs.

Like you losing to INFJs. *grins*

 

[orni]

*whispers* smoke pot

shhh

 

[Paradox of Vigor]

Pfff. Know everything... That's a fantasy and you know it.

The concept of "everything" is often a matter of physics, which is only one way of viewing "everything". Perspectives are unlimited. Never forget that.

 

[MirrorSmile]

That would be Se, which would be entirely correct for someone of this MBTI type to do. But (now I don't think I'm the only one here who is like this) I want to achieve perfection while knowing I can't have it. So if something, I want to be excellent. What's the point of doing your job if you know it's not going to be done right?

I'm not saying that you shouldn't strive for excellence. By all means, go ahead. What I meant was that perhaps in trying to prepare a lot, it may hinder you from actually doing what you prepared to do. What's the point of preparing for a job if you end up not doing it because you feel you wouldn't have done it perfectly anyway?

Perhaps to give a more concrete answer: it might be best to know your limits and the limits of your job or role. It may help you understand the extent of what you need to know and how deeply you need to know them until you're comfortable or confident enough. Also, it may help to know what exactly is being expected of you, or what results you are trying to achieve, so that you know what to learn in order to meet those expectations/results. I guess it helps if you have an idea of what exactly you're getting yourself into and what that might entail.

 

[Zheeph]

I'm not saying that you shouldn't strive for excellence. By all means, go ahead. What I meant was that perhaps in trying to prepare a lot, it may hinder you from actually doing what you prepared to do. What's the point of preparing for a job if you end up not doing it because you feel you wouldn't have done it perfectly anyway?

Hehe. Paradoxes are funny, but they're also the source of my own personal hypocrisy. Thank you for your care explaining things.