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For anyone that has seen me on the threads, do you have any opinions on what you think is any of my types. I have been thought of as on here as infp, enfp, infj. Opinions on anything would be helpful. I will answer questions. I think in general I am either bad at expressing my personality or I change who I am a lot, maybe more likely the former. So roll on...
 

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At least from what I've seen of you around the forum, you come off as a high F type. Otherwise, I'm not sure - INFP doesn't seem off really, but you'll need to fill out the survey or give more information about yourself if you're doubting your type a lot.
 

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Yeah, im pretty sure I am more of an F type. Definitely high on Fi. High on Ne and as time has got on, my Ti, even my Te is used more than what it was at a time in my life. These days I keep wandering off into ENFP land. I can't help but wander that in the present time, I am more myself than I once was considering I went through some bad things which affected how I was then. Now, i've mostly changed, in some ways I am still the same as when I was kid. When I get a spare amount of time, I will get some function results posted!
 

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Yeah, im pretty sure I am more of an F type. Definitely high on Fi. High on Ne and as time has got on, my Ti, even my Te is used more than what it was at a time in my life. These days I keep wandering off into ENFP land. I can't help but wander that in the present time, I am more myself than I once was considering I went through some bad things which affected how I was then. Now, i've mostly changed, in some ways I am still the same as when I was kid. When I get a spare amount of time, I will get some function results posted!
Might this be why?
http://www.personalitypage.com/html/development.html
As far as I know, then the function that is mainly developing is more expressive while it is "maturing".
(I am developing my Fe now and I'm a lot more sensitive atm. than I was a few years ago).

PS. The strength (or development) of a function seems to make it more expressive, but that doesn't change the preference. (your Ne might be more visible, but not more preferred.) :)

You are the same as when you were a kid, but different. :cool:
 

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That makes perfect sense, certainly in my case. My Fi for a large percentage of my life has been the most prominant. But somehow, i've managed to tame it as it has made me quite closed minded and too subjective. I definitely put an emphasis on objectivity as long as it doesn't maliciously hurt another human being etc. I've definitely used more Ne to get me out of my shell and now I find myself more attached to it.
Ps: thanks for the handy link :)
 

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as time has got on, my Ti, even my Te is used more than what it was at a time in my life.
This tells me that logical reasoning, whether its pure logical reason or productivity is a suggestive function for you meaning that as you develop and experience more of reality's forces, you look for ways to compensate for your own ego (dominant and auxiliary functions). This is inevitable because its part of maturity. If you feel like you have improved in areas of impersonal reasoning, then good! You're working towards completing yourself which is the ultimate goal of analyzing your persona. Saying that you can think logically well, however, does not make you a dominant thinker.

Which brings me to my main point that I cannot emphasize enough: WHY do you behave in the certain ways that you do? What is the motive behind you using logic effectively in decision making? For instance, an ISFP I once knew took up an executive position at a non-profit organization. I've never seen him as a guy who takes the lead like that because he always did things by himself and never liked working in groups. I found out that he took the position because it was a new opportunity to test himself as an ethically and morally good person and he wanted to take his understanding of universal morals to the next level by working for a bigger cause.
 

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Introverted (I) 75% Extraverted (E) 25%
Intuitive (N) 59%
Sensing (S) 41%
Feeling (F) 70%
Thinking (T) 30%
Perceiving (P) 77%
Judging (J) 23%

Your cognitive functions are, in order of development:
Si - Fi - Ni - Ti - Fe - Te - Ne - Se

Most Likely: ISFJ
or Second Possibility: INFP
or Third Possibility: INFJ

Now i've scored 'S'. I have to say that makes more sense these days, I use more S than what I used to. I am no doubt more high on 'N' though. Getting into mindfulness has definitely strengthened my 'S'. I do also relive a lot of memories and try to remember specific details etc.
I think I like to use objective reasoning because I do strongly believe in the truth but there are things objectivity cannot be applied to. Also, I was always ashamed of my sensitivity, still am and try to come accross level headed.
 

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Copy & paste job

Introverted (I) 75% Extraverted (E) 25%
Intuitive (N) 59%
Sensing (S) 41%
Feeling (F) 70%
Thinking (T) 30%
Perceiving (P) 77%
Judging (J) 23%

Your cognitive functions are, in order of development:
Si - Fi - Ni - Ti - Fe - Te - Ne - Se

Most Likely: ISFJ
or Second Possibility: INFP
or Third Possibility: INFJ

Now i've scored 'S'. I have to say that makes more sense these days, I use more S than what I used to. I am no doubt more high on 'N' though. Getting into mindfulness has definitely strengthened my 'S'. I do also relive a lot of memories and try to remember specific details etc.
I think I like to use objective reasoning because I do strongly believe in the truth but there are things objectivity cannot be applied to. Also, I was always ashamed of my sensitivity, still am and try to come accross level headed.
I appreciate this information. I'll ask you some more why questions. This is psychoanalysis. It's a process that takes time.

What sorts of things do you believe objectivity cannot be applied to?

Why are you ashamed of your own sensitivity?
 

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Okay. I'll do my best to answer.
What sorts of things do you believe objectivity cannot be applied to?
I often go through a tug of war and find it quite difficult making a decision where others are going to get hurt vs facing the truth. I am forgiving when people make mistakes. I don't want to lie, I consider myself as an honest person inside and out. I've been quite upfront to people in the past when they try to seek sympathy for something they stupidly got themselves into.
Why are you ashamed of your own sensitivity?
It was something a therapist told me that I am a sensitive person but its as if I don't want to show it and yes, for some reason I just don't want people to see that side of me, it makes me feel vunerable, that I might freak other people out and its just this guard i've got up. I've always tried to avoid my own sensitivity, when I was kid, I would hide my tears in front of others, cry in private. My parents remember me having a few angry temper tantrums.
Just to let you know as well, another time I took the perc cognitive quiz, my results were different that time too. I can't remember the exact function percentages but I remember it came up in the order of INFP, then ENFP, then INFJ of mostly likely type. Although I have matured a great deal, I still feel inadequate in some areas. Thanksies very much for going through this. It really helps.
 

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Okay. I'll do my best to answer.
What sorts of things do you believe objectivity cannot be applied to?
I often go through a tug of war and find it quite difficult making a decision where others are going to get hurt vs facing the truth. I am forgiving when people make mistakes. I don't want to lie, I consider myself as an honest person inside and out. I've been quite upfront to people in the past when they try to seek sympathy for something they stupidly got themselves into.
Why are you ashamed of your own sensitivity?
It was something a therapist told me that I am a sensitive person but its as if I don't want to show it and yes, for some reason I just don't want people to see that side of me, it makes me feel vulnerable, that I might freak other people out and its just this guard i've got up. I've always tried to avoid my own sensitivity, when I was kid, I would hide my tears in front of others, cry in private. My parents remember me having a few angry temper tantrums.
You'll have to forgive me for a bit of a late response. I have to limit my time to these posts to preserve my own sanity and balance the needs of my own life.

You clearly value honesty, but why do you value it? If somebody genuinely accused you for being dishonest, how would you feel or react to that person?
 

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No worries, I understand we all have our own lives to be dealing with :p
Its nice to get these niggles out in the open though.
So, back to the honesty thing. I value honesty a great deal, it is a productive thing and eventually leads to freedom, pardon the clique. I value it also as a counter to all the dishonesty there is. Dishonesty comes in its many forms, not just through spoken word, it can come through misleading advertising, pushy salesmen, media brainwashing, fake images. I find all the fakery I see today repulsive and even how it has societies habits. I can't always blame them though, they are simply a victim to a big type of liar. I feel its so important for me to come accross as real and genuine. If someone accused me of being dishonest which has happened, I have normally become supremely offended and will proceed to set the record straight, if I don't, then I will feel burdened knowing that person thought I was lying. I try to tell the truth diplomatically, aggressive tactics usually have the effect I don't want. Thanksies @HandiAce much appreciated :) Take as long as you need btw.
 

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No worries, I understand we all have our own lives to be dealing with :p
Its nice to get these niggles out in the open though.
So, back to the honesty thing. I value honesty a great deal, it is a productive thing and eventually leads to freedom, pardon the clique. I value it also as a counter to all the dishonesty there is. Dishonesty comes in its many forms, not just through spoken word, it can come through misleading advertising, pushy salesmen, media brainwashing, fake images. I find all the fakery I see today repulsive and even how it has societies habits. I can't always blame them though, they are simply a victim to a big type of liar. I feel its so important for me to come accross as real and genuine. If someone accused me of being dishonest which has happened, I have normally become supremely offended and will proceed to set the record straight, if I don't, then I will feel burdened knowing that person thought I was lying. I try to tell the truth diplomatically, aggressive tactics usually have the effect I don't want. Thanksies @HandiAce much appreciated :) Take as long as you need btw.
Do you feel by being honest, it will set forth an example of how people should treat each other or does being honest act as a way of providing insight into yourself and other people? Which one stands out to you the most?
 

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For starters, I don't want to be seen as a hypocrite. I prefer to deal in truths when talking and I can handle criticism if there is no personal intent involved, otherwise I feel hurt and slightly annoyed. I just want to get to the raw truth and then we can go from there otherwise I feel stuck at a hump. I like pure problem solving but without the lack of humanity in many cases. Human beings are an act of science and therefore we need to make allowances for what human beings naturally do and behave.
I think its slightly more a case of the latter, I don't want to judge anyone, I just want to know why they are behaving the way they are behaving.
I can understand why a 12 year old might hide porn under his bed and if I was the parent, I wouldn't hold up such a rigid view and make him discard the evidence. So I am very accepting, I think thats part of being honest about people's intentions.
 

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For starters, I don't want to be seen as a hypocrite. I prefer to deal in truths when talking and I can handle criticism if there is no personal intent involved, otherwise I feel hurt and slightly annoyed. I just want to get to the raw truth and then we can go from there otherwise I feel stuck at a hump. I like pure problem solving but without the lack of humanity in many cases. Human beings are an act of science and therefore we need to make allowances for what human beings naturally do and behave.
I think its slightly more a case of the latter, I don't want to judge anyone, I just want to know why they are behaving the way they are behaving.
I can understand why a 12 year old might hide porn under his bed and if I was the parent, I wouldn't hold up such a rigid view and make him discard the evidence. So I am very accepting, I think thats part of being honest about people's intentions.
Something tells me that you are someone who struggled with attempts to form reliable and trustworthy connections with other people because you hide your emotions from other people not because you fear trampling over their unique identities defining themselves, but because you are afraid of being seen as weak, incompetent, or upsetting an emotional atmosphere that has nothing to do with the individual identities of people that you know.

In my opinion, I think you have Ti and Fe playing significant roles, often using your own internal judgements to justify your own actions to overpower making judgements based on objective criteria. You convince yourself based on experiences that people won't receive you well and that's because sometimes you know things that they wouldn't understand and sometimes you don't know things so you keep yourself from being seen as incompetent by withdrawing and analyzing something from a detached standpoint to try to find the right frame of reference. I'm not saying all of this has to be 100% true because I don't know you, but I can see in all of your writing how you pull things apart and try to explain things from a detached standpoint. You even wrote appreciation for throwing all of this information out in this board most likely because people will be able to nitpick at it to give you a hopefully accurate answer to confirm your whole internal map of how certain things like this typology system work.


I value it also as a counter to all the dishonesty there is.
Fe much? You value honesty because it is a response to having dealt with experiences with people that were dishonest. A response to a whole world outside of you. Someone that has stronger Fi would most likely value honesty because it allows him or her to connect with people. If somebody was to be dishonest to him or her, the Fi valuer would dismiss that person in particular as evil or just not worth connecting to and move on because naturally, the individual knows that no one is ever the same person. I see @snail who is a definite INFP always making posts talking about how she relates to particular people on a certain level despite the circumstances they are placed in. I believe that it comes naturally to her.



You might claim that you have Fi because you make judgements based on your own point of view as opposed to what other people think and you DO! What I see, though, is you making statements of probable causes and indicating types (for example, the different forms of dishonesty) explaining how you understand things from your own logical perspective to help you and others understand your empathy or--more accurately--forgiveness of people's mistakes.


Of course, anyone's feedback other than mine is appreciated and feel free to correct anything I said that is inaccurate.
 

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Thankyou greatly for sharing your insights. I've had to sit with them awhile and think them over.

Something tells me that you are someone who struggled with attempts to form reliable and trustworthy connections with other people because you hide your emotions from other people not because you fear trampling over their unique identities defining themselves, but because you are afraid of being seen as weak, incompetent, or upsetting an emotional atmosphere that has nothing to do with the individual identities of people that you know.
This is actually true, I did grow up in a very unstable environment. The hiding of my emotions is something I have had from an early age, its hard to explain, I couldn't cry because I suppose I had to put up a shield defending myself. Im an f type through and through, I know that. Its just not easy for me to express my feelings easily, I feel restrained here somehow, it very much depends on the feeling itself. That is correct aswell, that I don't want to be seen as weak and incompetant nor overbearing. I've dealt with a lot of criticism in my life and the bullying has had lasting effects. I'm not quite sure you meant in the last sentence though @:/

In my opinion, I think you have Ti and Fe playing significant roles, often using your own internal judgements to justify your own actions to overpower making judgements based on objective criteria.
Yes and uh, not sure. I've kind of turned my nose up to the use of Fe, I often encounter what I see is wanting to give advice to people in a tactful objective format but there is a vibe that I care. It is based of real experience and stored knowledge and a fair bit of gut thinking. I take all sorts into account and decide on the most balanced decision and the best fit. To be ignorant of things that cannot be helped doesn't make sense like telling someone what to do based on general guidelines but this is apt to change according the situation. But back to what I was saying again, I don't always want to thrust my opinions over anyone, at least not anymore, thats all giving way to the old, just plant a seed and see what happens, hopefully good ripe positive fruits will grow. I do love to challenge some people's cliqued viewed p.o.v's.
I don't always feel confident in my intelligence, hell, I was in the bottom of most of my classes at school and then over another 10 years later and I am feeling better in myself, im finding myself wanting to know everything there is to know. My brain is like a sponge right now. Maybe im catching up, hehe!
There is a tug of war going on much of the time between objective and subjective, I am neither purely subjective nor purely objective - I try to combine elements of both depending on the situation, I want to know the theory and the practical, neither can exist without the other.
A reason I might use Ti is because I have needed to make assessments of the people whom I have come into contact in my life, I need to evaluate them, its like a compulsive thing I have to do, I must analyse this person. Things that maybe affecting them or what they have been affected by. I may want to delve into their past which can me a lot of clues to their chosen beliefs, lifestyle, motives or look into what they are doing now that is jeopardising their health etc. And other topics vary wildly to how I go about forming an opinion but I do know I absorb as much information as I can. I get that tug of war again when the temptation to sort out a problem using a single formula or that I find that approach to be to illfitting with regards to a persons complex situation in which requires a more humanistic approach and I can offer that in a step by step format, its almost grid like, I want rearrange all the messy details into some sort of order than can be understood, communicated to others in an understandable, articulate way, highlighting areas that need to be drawn to, one's that are paramount to be dealt with first in order for a domino effect to happen. Now as clean and tidy as that looks, when it comes to the real thing, I still go by a step by step thing and am ready for anything that will be an obstacle and how we can work that out too. This is also simply idealistic and takes a lot of brain power to maintain this line of thought consistantly so I may need to step back and analyse, partly so I can catch my breath and also to reflect. But I find it serves me well making fair and realistic decisions.

You convince yourself based on experiences that people won't receive you well and that's because sometimes you know things that they wouldn't understand and sometimes you don't know things so you keep yourself from being seen as incompetent by withdrawing and analyzing something from a detached standpoint to try to find the right frame of reference.
Ouch, another knot in my stomach. Its one hella risk to come out with a statement that could be wrong, that would be embarassing, I would rather hide, yes, than take the plunge and speak up about something I am not confident with, something I havn't even read about somewhere would definitely make me feel unfamiliar and more reserved in my opinion. Thats funny you said that too about others not understanding because sometimes I don't, sometimes I give up half way through trying to explain something to someone, I often thing my Ne is too up in the air for them to even remotely understand a theory of mine. Yes, also right, taking a step back allows me time to find gain more information.

I'm not saying all of this has to be 100% true because I don't know you, but I can see in all of your writing how you pull things apart and try to explain things from a detached standpoint. You even wrote appreciation for throwing all of this information out in this board most likely because people will be able to nitpick at it to give you a hopefully accurate answer to confirm your whole internal map of how certain things like this typology system work.
What can I say? I think the best word is compartmentalised. I am suprised how well you picked my motives, tbh like with a lot of people, I don't initially expect them to 'get me' as a person. I don't know. But I am scared of emotionally getting too involved in situations, even in those situations im searching for the best thing to do, it feels like a hefty responsibility. Argh, yeah, this is hitting closer to home, when I offer advice to others, there is a level of distance, in fact this is a very prominant part of my life in how I connect to the world. Thankyou for noticing this. I think if you were to spend time in my company, you would still probably view me as distant and I feel it, im not quite in the moment, ever. I'm scared of looking people in the eye, of having a truly connective conversation. It shows in my body language, I am aware of that, my arms are frequently folded or my body is turned a different direction of the other person meaning that I just don't want to connect with them. I've have problems making friends. Unless im talking about something deeply inspiring and that makes me feel passionate.
Uh, I am baffled, I hope it doesn't sound like im manufacturing a situation in order to get confirmation. I don't know. Maybe but im not sure.

Fe much? You value honesty because it is a response to having dealt with experiences with people that were dishonest. A response to a whole world outside of you. Someone that has stronger Fi would most likely value honesty because it allows him or her to connect with people. If somebody was to be dishonest to him or her, the Fi valuer would dismiss that person in particular as evil or just not worth connecting to and move on because naturally, the individual knows that no one is ever the same person. I see @snail who is a definite INFP always making posts talking about how she relates to particular people on a certain level despite the circumstances they are placed in. I believe that it comes naturally to her.
I do appreciate people as individuals, very much so. I value every person and situation on its own merit. But in reference to what you said, I can't connect 100% but I can totally empath with them through going through my own horror's in life. I just feel drained after too much emotion and feel uncomfortable almost claustrophobic but I can take in people's emotions from as you say, a place a bit further away, I don't want to be the sole person trying to emotionally support someone because its not within my capability. But I can say the right things with sincerity.

You might claim that you have Fi because you make judgements based on your own point of view as opposed to what other people think and you DO! What I see, though, is you making statements of probable causes and indicating types (for example, the different forms of dishonesty) explaining how you understand things from your own logical perspective to help you and others understand your empathy or--more accurately--forgiveness of people's mistakes.
Your making me worry now, lol! About my type that is! Please though if you can, could you explain further why you think I am based around only my own view points, actually on second thoughts I do. I take it thats not necessarily a great thing, maybe I do, I just feel very passionate about what I believe in whether that be human rights or climate change. It all sounds pretty self absorbed, doesn't it :(

Id like to thankyou for dissecting me and sharing your thoughts. Some very interesting food for thought which has certainly got me thinking. I'm not quite sure where to go from here. But I sure do feel quite uneasy about some of my negative behaviour, I needed to be drawn attention to something that I think I am justified in. I would love to hear anything you further might want to add and would be interested in any kind of kind conclusion, without pressuring you of course, everything has been most helpful.
 

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Tertiary- Introverted Sensing/Si: Introverted Sensing is a staple for INFPs. Even though it's tertiary it's usually being put into good use by remembering specific details, and also remembering how things were. When an INFP takes in information, they will process it through their Fi, Ne, and Si. The Si part of an INFP will remember the details about an experience or thing, and relate it to how it was before and will check for changes or inconsistencies. Ne is the fuzzy part of an INFP's perception of the world, and Si is the concrete part of an INFP's perception of the world. An INFP will remember the details of something, and this is put into use especially when making decisions for leisure. How did this make me feel before? What about it made me feel this way? Questions like that will be asked and answered in their heads. If Fi and Ne fail them in a situation then Si will take command, checking for details and linking them to past experiences. Si is the INFP's relief function, meaning that use of this function is generally used for relief and reassurance. With this in mind ISFJs and ISTJs make excellent people to be in an INFP's life, due to their dominant Si.
Well I found this on the infp forum and it explains the use of Si in the context of an infp. But im having some doubt now about this.

I've been typed as an INFP for nearly 10 years but because in the last few years I have made significant changes to my headstate, I am starting to appreciate other functions or maybe the appreciation for those functions was already present long ago but they wern't nurtured. But whatever it is, I know I have related much with the INFP's on here. But the tendency as mentioned to pull things apart using Ti with the use of Fe do support and work with Ti does on second thoughts make sense but with use of Ne, I also use alot of Ni. Okay, ramble over. :confused:
 

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Your making me worry now, lol! About my type that is! Please though if you can, could you explain further why you think I am based around only my own view points, actually on second thoughts I do. I take it thats not necessarily a great thing, maybe I do, I just feel very passionate about what I believe in whether that be human rights or climate change. It all sounds pretty self absorbed, doesn't it :(
I didn't mean to say that you are self-absorbed. I attempted to explain your possible driving force behind making decisions for yourself when you do. Obviously, you have your own viewpoints that you follow, but I think you do make an effort to try and understand others viewpoints. I don't know how easily you have done this in the past, it didn't come naturally to me, but it's maturity nonetheless. Keep in mind, when I say maturity, I don't mean to say that you are immature. It's just that people, contrary to past impressions I held, never stop maturing. My mother at fifty-three years old hasn't stopped yet.

Right now, I am going to put down a foot and say that you are either an ISFJ or INFJ that has/had some trouble developing Fe.

I've been typed as an INFP for nearly 10 years but because in the last few years I have made significant changes to my headstate, I am starting to appreciate other functions or maybe the appreciation for those functions was already present long ago but they wern't nurtured. But whatever it is, I know I have related much with the INFP's on here. But the tendency as mentioned to pull things apart using Ti with the use of Fe do support and work with Ti does on second thoughts make sense but with use of Ne, I also use alot of Ni. Okay, ramble over. :confused:
I can see how all of this information is bugging the living hell out of you because you at your wits end on trying to figure out this whole system and you want all of the particular details to line up correctly.
Which areas of you life have you started to appreciate more? How do you think intuition in particular plays a role in your life? It could be either Ni or Ne.
 

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Okay. Right, i've done this one last time I hope. I have taken the cog test again(a different 1 this time). I promise I won't post any more of these, this will be the last 1.
extraverted Sensing (Se) ************************** (26.9)
average use
introverted Sensing (Si) ****************************** (30.8)
good use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) *********************************** (35.8)
good use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ******************************* (31.6)
good use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ************************* (25.6)
average use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ************************** (26.7)
average use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ********************* (21.8)
limited use
introverted Feeling (Fi) ***************************************** (41)
excellent use


So from what you posted, I did some more reading up in Fe and Fi and well, the results between Fe and Fi on the grid are pretty vast. I was also quite suprised to see my Te that high! I'm no bossy madam and on that note, I would have considered being more J something I am striving towards until distractions come along. I literally feel stuck right inbetween of J and P being the procrastinator I am.
Obviously, you have your own viewpoints that you follow, but I think you do make an effort to try and understand others viewpoints. I don't know how easily you have done this in the past, it didn't come naturally to me, but it's maturity nonetheless.
I would say it comes natural in the way I feel the pain that an animal or an abused child is going through, I really try to put myself in their shoes with the option of pulling away as to not become emotionally imbalanced or unstable. But often enough, I will feel that depression that animal/person is going through, in this case, there is not always a great deal I can do to help this person because I am emotionally distraught myself meaning I can't give this person what they need and I feel terrible for that, I feel terrible walking away and how much of a hypocrite I am, I know I would be broken if someone did that to me with not an ounce of feeling in themselves and thats why I put myself out there for people because I have felt what they are feeling, its one thing that keeps me connecting to the weak and marginalised because their rulers were too objective and I FREELY criticize their practises. Where's the logic in keeping thousands of people on a famished desert island, steal their land and their oil and for someone to come along and say well, business is business is completely absurd and quite frankly dumb and stupid with no intelligence, for ethical reasons but also I would try to convince these businessmen how it is potentially going to destroy their business through not taking care of the problem - the hungry people, ruin their company reputation thus jeopardising any attempts at future business, its a knock of effect, how they are going to afford to clean up any mess they made etc.
The offering advice thing doesn't come completely natural to me, its more about just absorbing and accepting feelings. Trying to understand others viewpoints was difficult, I relate there, believing so much in your thoughts has its good sides and also blocks off any chances to hear others but now I just wait for them to slip up in their thinking and ethical stance, sometimes I just like stirring things, sometimes people get offended, not to good at recieving it though. I hate it when people take things I say personally, im just being a creative thinker.

Right now, I am going to put down a foot and say that you are either an ISFJ or INFJ that has/had some trouble developing Fe.
I'm going to have to spend some time checking how these 2 types work. I never would have put myself as a straight up J type though, I don't really make plans, I have an idea for what I will do for the day and do it, but sometimes I need to have a certain amount of organization going on. Organised chaos so to speak. Hehe!
You got it, yeah its buggin that crap out of me. You would expect things to line up in order and your type to be nice and simple with the cogs in all the right, predictable order. Then im thinking, omg why does this have to happen, why are others types all nice and straightforward for them, arrgh!
Im going to now mention the areas in which I find myself enjoying more these days. I'm enjoying letting my guard down more, letting people in, telling them my past in a way that doesn't make me feel vunerable, im enjoying learning academics, im learning how to be more aware of my surroundings instead of being half asleep or in my head although this is still a struggle as I frequently drift off partly due to social anxiety that is still present and because I find my mental thoughts more stimulating, im trying to fit more into the real world which has been hard because I don't feel like I belong here a lot. I struggle with maintaining my personality in a relationship, these days im coming off as quite controlling because I don't want to be controlled which I then feel bad about and become temporarily submissive. But most of all, I just want to live a life giving myself the strength to go for what I want in life, sometimes I feel I don't deserve the good things.
If I find a more better way of saying thanks for listening to my outpouring of self pity. But thankyou for reading this far. I don't know if I am either INFJ/ISFJ. Admittedly, I don't know a great deal about the ISFJ type but I did hear that they are something of traditionalists or this is just a stereotype, I noticed that you are an ISFJ, maybe you could shed a little light there. :happy:

If it helps, I will spend a few days out reviewing more INFJ/ISFJ material and come back with some conclusions. I could make a video if that helps aswell.
 
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