I'm proud have been born in (insert country name)

This annoys me.

Apparently this is what it means to be a "Patriotic Australian".

Notice that they are all bogans..... (including the politician wrapped in the flag)

hemoglobin said:

Apparently this is what it means to be a "Patriotic Australian".

Notice that they are all bogans..... (including the politician wrapped in the flag)

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The Oxley Moron unless I'm very much mistaken.

What do you mean; patriotism makes lots of sense. Just as completely arbitrarily chosen differences can be used to turn people against each other, just any similarity is a useful way to instill loyalty in the masses, and wouldn't you want your people to all become loyal so you could get them to do whatever you want? In fact, Germanic patriotism (in the form of nationalism) was the driving factor of both world wars.

I find this country useful, and I'm glad I was born here where I have much opportunities, but I dont feel loyal to a chunk of land, and certainly not to the government. Even the people, I don't see what makes the people here any better than the people over there. As for the principles behind America, Freedom and all that Jazz. I suppose those are worthy of praise, but there are other countries with similar or otherwise good values behind them, and besides I believe in idividual values, not in the collective, so no, that doesn't do much for me either.

Manipulater said:

It perplexes me that people can be proud to have been born in whatever country. Happiness due to this fact I can understand but its not like you actually achieved anything being born wherever.

Anyone out there able to explain to me what makes people think like this?

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It doesn't have anything to do with where they're born, it has to do with which group they are currently associated with and whether they are proud to be a part of that group or not.

I've noticed this is most common with Si users, which just so happen to make up the majority of the population.

You would probably understand if your country was only made up of 20 people that you liked and respected. It's a bit different when your country is made up of millions of people that you don't know.

PseudoSenator said:

http://personalitycafe.com/intj-forum-scientists/2659-intj-location.html

I couldn't have been born on this planet, everyone's [including my own] behavior seems so alien to me. Can we INTJs just found our own country?

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There would be no point in the end. Most of us don't even get along with each other. An INTJ country filled with INTJs....we would all be plotting against each other and eventually become extinct!

Manipulater said:

It perplexes me that people can be proud to have been born in whatever country. Happiness due to this fact I can understand but its not like you actually achieved anything being born wherever.

Anyone out there able to explain to me what makes people think like this?

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Ignorance. I wish I was raised at home in ireland but I immigrated with my parents soon after my birth' therefor I do like the american way of life. But who cares? It's my way of life too and I'm content. Why shouldnt I be proud? It's my roots and I take pride in who I am' that doesnt stop me from respecting other peoples "patriotism" though so it's a fine line of ignorance.

I guess it's that they like being part of a big club-like group, or something? I don't really understand fully. I like parts of England (like the countryside and historical areas) but can't stand the cities, a large portion of the population, the government etc. and I don't really get how to be proud of something I had no control over. I'm proud of my personal development over the years, not of being born somewhere.

Manipulater said:

It perplexes me that people can be proud to have been born in whatever country. Happiness due to this fact I can understand but its not like you actually achieved anything being born wherever.

Anyone out there able to explain to me what makes people think like this?

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Pretty much, I think about this quite frequently. The only thing I think to be more primitive is being proud of having a certain native language.

Yeah, I'm glad that I raised up/live in my country and so do I think my language, as it can open certain doors.

Squirrel said:

America! I love my country; just not my government.

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Sorry, I could not find "America" in the list of eath's countries. I found similar entries called "South America" and "North America" but they are continents and as such something completely different.

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I can honestly and shamelessly say:

Sure. Being born here is not an achievement of my own....but I like and am proud of the way we do (most) things here.