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Hey guys.

I'm one of you. I guess, I spend more time analysing personality types, than actually interacting with people. Actually all I want is to have people in my life that fit to me. But here I am sitting in my 30s, all alone in front of my PC, still thinking about what I did wrong almost 2 weeks ago, when I talked to this insanely beautiful girl on the street. And it wears me down. I want to go out. Enjoy the summer. Find my dream girl. But I can't. Because my mind forces me to always plan everything through and that makes me fucking lonely.

So, I thought to start a little diary about my journey of improving myself until I got all the skills ready to face my dream girl and be the man for her I want to be.

Im writing this here, because I guess, you guys are similar to me.

Right now I feel really depressed. I just dodged a deadly bullet. A girl almost moved in and I thought she might be the one. She was very high in P, while surprise, I am fairly high in J. But guess what, after spending 2 month with me she suddenly decided to meet another dude and 1 day later she moved in to him. I really need a girl high in P, but WTF. Thing was, because of the corona hysteria the buses at my area dont drive, so we were waiting a while, because she was moving in from another town. And that other dude happened to live in her area. I guess I am the better catch overall, but he just had the better position. Sucks.. But good thing was, her P mind made her a hardcore liar. She used to say, she just lives in the moment, which enabled her to dodge all responsibilities.

Yeah and my history with girls does not look much better. I am actually fairly good looking. At least when I approach girls at the night on the street, they tell me, normally they would be afraid, but since they found me attractive, they are okay with it. And yet I didnt fuck for several years now. Why? Because I strive for perfection... Actually my character is pretty balanced. But in terms of relation, I am totally IxxJ. Thats why I spent most time searching on the internet. But I failed hard. Its tragic. You know, I was a hardcore user back in the early days of the internet. In the past I had some big successes. I was able to get 2 major relationships from another town to my area. But then generation Z happened and my old tactics failed hard. Im going for 18-23 girls, if the character is perfect I also take 25+, but hey, as long as I look young, I want to date young. Anyway most girls from gen z were totally crazy. But to be fair: I had a tendency towards them. I usually went to places where you would encounter the more emo type. I never used stuff like tinder, because I feel so exposed. I dont want ppl from my area to see my profile. That made online dating much harder for me. And in the end I have to admit defeat.

Now I am a day gamer, which means, I go out on the street and approach girls there. I did not do it that long yet, but results are promising. Most girls like me, I already got a few numbers and I know my weak points and where to improve. But still... I feel so burned out. I know I can make it. But at what price? I am at a point where I am pretty much asexual. I try to do it once per week because its healthy to do so. But I do not have a single fantasy, that stimulates me. All girls I ever loved cheated on me. Porn is full of cheap sluts and that is the opposite of what I want. So, what is left? Right now the only thing I truly enjoy is talking to the most beautiful girls and just look at their angelic faces.

I must conquer them. But how long will it take? Today my hair was so fluffy. I could have gone out and maybe find the right one. But instead I was lying in my bed, thinking about tactics to get her if she has a boyfriend.. Because most beauties have. If things work well, maybe I can start another run next week. But sldkknfsdlknfsdlkn I want them in my bed now!!!!!!!!!!!1

Lets see what is planned for tonight... I will create a plan when I allow my self to destroy her relationship. If she really loves him and they are a couple for years, I will respect that and dont go between them. If she says she really loves him, but knows him for 3 days, then I know she has no plan about her life and I need to plan it for her. If she doesnt love him, then of course I will try to make her mine. Well, thats a little peek on what I usually think about. Sounds pretty logical and simple, but its the MASSES of informations, that make it so hard for me.

Its really tough to think about killing other people relationships. Still most people do it all the time. But the difference is I am the one thinking about it to make it morally acceptable.

I wish so much, that my future girl will love me for that kind of mind set. But sadly I only want young girls and they are very often very naive and just have no clue how good I really am.

Do you know the netflix show "You"? I really feel like this guy.

More to come..
 

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So, I was the whole night awake creating this model to tune my moral code and it happened, that I have to create some new models first to find the answer. Maybe I will do a mathematical function, as well.

Hopefully on monday I have completed the science of love, so I can move out again on the battlefield.

Weird. I dont feel depressive right now. I hate to be tired and not be able to improve myself.
 

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So, I was the whole night awake creating this model to tune my moral code and it happened, that I have to create some new models first to find the answer. Maybe I will do a mathematical function, as well.

Hopefully on monday I have completed the science of love, so I can move out again on the battlefield.

Weird. I dont feel depressive right now. I hate to be tired and not be able to improve myself.
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Wait... am I understanding this correctly...? This chick left you after 2 months to suddenly move in with someone else - as you said, you dodged a bullet... but you're contemplating intentionally ending her relationship and possibly trying to get with her again? You've described her as a hardcore liar and flighty, whereas you want a committed relationship with someone who is the opposite of a "cheap slut", so someone who is quite exclusive about who they like and partner with. You and her don't sound at all compatible with one another, even if there was chemistry between you...?

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So, I thought to start a little diary about my journey of improving myself until I got all the skills ready to face my dream girl and be the man for her I want to be.
I think that is really sweet, but also I hope you can consider that the right people for you are going to be fond of you and treat you like you're valuable even when you are not ready and perfect.

But good thing was, her P mind made her a hardcore liar. She used to say, she just lives in the moment, which enabled her to dodge all responsibilities.
Being high P doesn't make anyone lie. People who are Perceivers are strong in either Fi ethics or Ti principles, both of which can yield a strong sense of responsibility. It just depends on individual values. What Ps can and often seem to do is be selective about the commitments we choose to make, so we don't have obligations of low personal importance interfering with our ability to respond to our environment in the way we find most comfortable. That doesn't preclude us from being able to commit to and prioritize highly important matters like loving relationships, though.

Today my hair was so fluffy. I could have gone out and maybe find the right one.
I mean, I'm sort of a sucker for nice hair, so I can't really argue too much, but have you considered that picking up girls on the street isn't necessarily yielding the kind of girl you're after? I get what you're saying about the internet, but maybe you could try some of the new video dating apps that are coming out. And/or join some clubs/interest groups that will put you into contact with the kind of girls you like.

I wish so much, that my future girl will love me for that kind of mind set. But sadly I only want young girls and they are very often very naive
Well at least you're aware. I wish you luck.

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Being utterly abandoned by the opposite sex is not fun. People are cruel to lampoon it.

I'd say step 1 is increasing the volume of people (and thus women) you meet by joining meetup groups and stuff. The more people you meet the better chances you'll have. You don't want to get hung up on whatever's in front of you that you can't have.
 

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Wait... am I understanding this correctly...? This chick left you after 2 months to suddenly move in with someone else - as you said, you dodged a bullet... but you're contemplating intentionally ending her relationship and possibly trying to get with her again? You've described her as a hardcore liar and flighty, whereas you want a committed relationship with someone who is the opposite of a "cheap slut", so someone who is quite exclusive about who they like and partner with. You and her don't sound at all compatible with one another, even if there was chemistry between you...?
No, dont worry. I dont want her back. Well, not really. But the reason I am calculating my moral code is for the new girls I meet. About 70% are in a relationship, half of them seem to be in a boring or unhappy relationship, which I will make mine. The others in happy relationships I will not touch.

But back to the other girl... I thought about getting her back, but telling her straight to replace her once I found a new girl. This might sound cruel, but considering her spontaneous mindset, I do not think she would care much.

I think that is really sweet, but also I hope you can consider that the right people for you are going to be fond of you and treat you like you're valuable even when you are not ready and perfect.
Yes, but thing is you women dont realize how perfect you are just by being young. As a man you need to rival that beauty. You cannot think, that you can go straight up to a beautiful girl and get her, when you got nothing to offer. When girls fall in love, they usually say its neither money nor fame, but personality. But thing is, good personality needs to be crafted. And for a man this is much more true than for women. No one cared for me when I was a boy. Girls just started to pay attention to me once I became a demon prince of love. And even now... one wrong word and you fuck up. For example I met this cute girl on the street. She was laughing at a bad joke of mine like she would come right now. Later we texted and I made a huge mistake. I asked her how she was feeling. From there on it died out. And I am very sure to know the answer. I feel it. Asking her how she feels made me seem too nice too early. A few days ago she said she was too depressive to go out this day. So I was worried and cared about her and asked her... BIG MISTAKE! As a man you are simply not allowed to be too caring. But I am.. and it pains me.. and if the girls would actually know that it pains me, it would disgust them even more. And this pains me even more...

I mean, I'm sort of a sucker for nice hair, so I can't really argue too much, but have you considered that picking up girls on the street isn't necessarily yielding the kind of girl you're after? I get what you're saying about the internet, but maybe you could try some of the new video dating apps that are coming out. And/or join some clubs/interest groups that will put you into contact with the kind of girls you like.
The internet burned me too much out. I need the thrill of a real hunt on the street. Its the only thing that makes me feel really alive right now.

And I cant go to clubs. People hate me or love me. I would very soon be known as a cult leader and get into trouble. Im just the type of guy that draws people into his world. I have my own ideas of how this world should work. But sadly most humans are stupid and wouldnt understand. So I have to avoid them... and take their girls, when they are alone on the streets.
 

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And I cant go to clubs. People hate me or love me. I would very soon be known as a cult leader and get into trouble. Im just the type of guy that draws people into his world. I have my own ideas of how this world should work. But sadly most humans are stupid and wouldnt understand. So I have to avoid them... and take their girls, when they are alone on the streets.
Yeah, grab 'em by the pussy!
 

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Currently I am figuring out a bug in my flirting routine. Since I am J, what I like is structure. So I would first go for an overview about a person. But what I seek are Ps. So, when I talked about 5 topics in 5 minutes, for them it might seemed boring, because on no topic did I go so deep, that it actually stimulates them. I was talking to this musician girl and I guess I should just have stayed on the music topic and impress her on that one.

What do my P girls say about this idea? How would I conquer you more easily? Tell your prince~
 

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What do my P girls say about this idea? How would I conquer you more easily? Tell your prince~
  1. Tell her that she is the most gorgeous person in the world and how she is the absolute one for you.
  2. Tell her she has a nice ass or rack
  3. Keep talking to her until she consents to hook up.
5 minutes, 5 hours... who cares? time is just a social construct! Show her how much she really ought to say yes to you.
 

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No, dont worry. I dont want her back. Well, not really. But the reason I am calculating my moral code is for the new girls I meet. About 70% are in a relationship, half of them seem to be in a boring or unhappy relationship, which I will make mine. The others in happy relationships I will not touch.

But back to the other girl... I thought about getting her back, but telling her straight to replace her once I found a new girl. This might sound cruel, but considering her spontaneous mindset, I do not think she would care much.
I'm glad to hear that regarding not wanting her back. Though, cruelty aside, this all just seems like a lot of wasted energy.

The thing about breaking up relationships - even if they're boring/unhappy - is that, even if the lady isn't glowingly happy, she's deciding to stay for some reason. Sure, introducing yourself as a shiny new attractive partner could push her over the edge to leave, but if you're the reason she leaves, you're always going to be emotionally attached to that old relationship for her. Has this led to successful relationships before? I'm sure it has. But does it usually result in successful relationships? I very much doubt it.

Yes, but thing is you women dont realize how perfect you are just by being young. As a man you need to rival that beauty. You cannot think, that you can go straight up to a beautiful girl and get her, when you got nothing to offer. When girls fall in love, they usually say its neither money nor fame, but personality. But thing is, good personality needs to be crafted. And for a man this is much more true than for women. No one cared for me when I was a boy. Girls just started to pay attention to me once I became a demon prince of love. And even now... one wrong word and you fuck up. For example I met this cute girl on the street. She was laughing at a bad joke of mine like she would come right now. Later we texted and I made a huge mistake. I asked her how she was feeling. From there on it died out. And I am very sure to know the answer. I feel it. Asking her how she feels made me seem too nice too early. A few days ago she said she was too depressive to go out this day. So I was worried and cared about her and asked her... BIG MISTAKE! As a man you are simply not allowed to be too caring. But I am.. and it pains me.. and if the girls would actually know that it pains me, it would disgust them even more. And this pains me even more...

The internet burned me too much out. I need the thrill of a real hunt on the street. Its the only thing that makes me feel really alive right now.

And I cant go to clubs. People hate me or love me. I would very soon be known as a cult leader and get into trouble. Im just the type of guy that draws people into his world. I have my own ideas of how this world should work. But sadly most humans are stupid and wouldnt understand. So I have to avoid them... and take their girls, when they are alone on the streets.
What is your goal, ultimately? If you are looking for your mind princess, Mind Prince, I think you might want to consider redirecting your focus from spiriting away beautiful ladies to discerning the right partners for you. If someone discards you based on you showing caring for them, but you are a naturally caring gentleman, that's not a good potential partner for you, my friend.

(A secret: one of the things that initially attracted me to my husband was that when I first encountered him, he was trying to help a friend of his. Though also a gregarious jokester, he has always been considerate and caring towards me, and he extends that to my family. Let me tell you how much being caring towards her mom and dad - and her grandparents! - makes a lady swoon.)

Currently I am figuring out a bug in my flirting routine. Since I am J, what I like is structure. So I would first go for an overview about a person. But what I seek are Ps. So, when I talked about 5 topics in 5 minutes, for them it might seemed boring, because on no topic did I go so deep, that it actually stimulates them. I was talking to this musician girl and I guess I should just have stayed on the music topic and impress her on that one.

What do my P girls say about this idea? How would I conquer you more easily? Tell your prince~
Ps usually are not opposed to broad skimming and rapidly changing subjects. ExxPs will probably do better with this than IxxPs, who usually need a little more time to reflect to give good answers. But again, are you trying to win over every girl you meet, or the right girls for you? Impressing someone is a pleasure but realizing you have a natural rapport with them is the first building block of a relationship.
 

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Hey guys.

I'm one of you. I guess, I spend more time analysing personality types, than actually interacting with people. Actually all I want is to have people in my life that fit to me. But here I am sitting in my 30s, all alone in front of my PC, still thinking about what I did wrong almost 2 weeks ago, when I talked to this insanely beautiful girl on the street. And it wears me down. I want to go out. Enjoy the summer. Find my dream girl. But I can't. Because my mind forces me to always plan everything through and that makes me fucking lonely.

So, I thought to start a little diary about my journey of improving myself until I got all the skills ready to face my dream girl and be the man for her I want to be.

Im writing this here, because I guess, you guys are similar to me.

Right now I feel really depressed. I just dodged a deadly bullet. A girl almost moved in and I thought she might be the one. She was very high in P, while surprise, I am fairly high in J. But guess what, after spending 2 month with me she suddenly decided to meet another dude and 1 day later she moved in to him. I really need a girl high in P, but WTF. Thing was, because of the corona hysteria the buses at my area dont drive, so we were waiting a while, because she was moving in from another town. And that other dude happened to live in her area. I guess I am the better catch overall, but he just had the better position. Sucks.. But good thing was, her P mind made her a hardcore liar. She used to say, she just lives in the moment, which enabled her to dodge all responsibilities.

Yeah and my history with girls does not look much better. I am actually fairly good looking. At least when I approach girls at the night on the street, they tell me, normally they would be afraid, but since they found me attractive, they are okay with it. And yet I didnt fuck for several years now. Why? Because I strive for perfection... Actually my character is pretty balanced. But in terms of relation, I am totally IxxJ. Thats why I spent most time searching on the internet. But I failed hard. Its tragic. You know, I was a hardcore user back in the early days of the internet. In the past I had some big successes. I was able to get 2 major relationships from another town to my area. But then generation Z happened and my old tactics failed hard. Im going for 18-23 girls, if the character is perfect I also take 25+, but hey, as long as I look young, I want to date young. Anyway most girls from gen z were totally crazy. But to be fair: I had a tendency towards them. I usually went to places where you would encounter the more emo type. I never used stuff like tinder, because I feel so exposed. I dont want ppl from my area to see my profile. That made online dating much harder for me. And in the end I have to admit defeat.

Now I am a day gamer, which means, I go out on the street and approach girls there. I did not do it that long yet, but results are promising. Most girls like me, I already got a few numbers and I know my weak points and where to improve. But still... I feel so burned out. I know I can make it. But at what price? I am at a point where I am pretty much asexual. I try to do it once per week because its healthy to do so. But I do not have a single fantasy, that stimulates me. All girls I ever loved cheated on me. Porn is full of cheap sluts and that is the opposite of what I want. So, what is left? Right now the only thing I truly enjoy is talking to the most beautiful girls and just look at their angelic faces.

I must conquer them. But how long will it take? Today my hair was so fluffy. I could have gone out and maybe find the right one. But instead I was lying in my bed, thinking about tactics to get her if she has a boyfriend.. Because most beauties have. If things work well, maybe I can start another run next week. But sldkknfsdlknfsdlkn I want them in my bed now!!!!!!!!!!!1

Lets see what is planned for tonight... I will create a plan when I allow my self to destroy her relationship. If she really loves him and they are a couple for years, I will respect that and dont go between them. If she says she really loves him, but knows him for 3 days, then I know she has no plan about her life and I need to plan it for her. If she doesnt love him, then of course I will try to make her mine. Well, thats a little peek on what I usually think about. Sounds pretty logical and simple, but its the MASSES of informations, that make it so hard for me.

Its really tough to think about killing other people relationships. Still most people do it all the time. But the difference is I am the one thinking about it to make it morally acceptable.

I wish so much, that my future girl will love me for that kind of mind set. But sadly I only want young girls and they are very often very naive and just have no clue how good I really am.

Do you know the netflix show "You"? I really feel like this guy.

More to come..
FFS you want a girl that isn't "Cheap" while thinking, acting and talking a dime-a-dozen predator....
Here's a hint: Dildos are more emotionally/intellectually fulfilling in the long run than folks like you.
 
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What is your goal, ultimately? If you are looking for your mind princess, Mind Prince, I think you might want to consider redirecting your focus from spiriting away beautiful ladies to discerning the right partners for you. If someone discards you based on you showing caring for them, but you are a naturally caring gentleman, that's not a good potential partner for you, my friend.

(A secret: one of the things that initially attracted me to my husband was that when I first encountered him, he was trying to help a friend of his. Though also a gregarious jokester, he has always been considerate and caring towards me, and he extends that to my family. Let me tell you how much being caring towards her mom and dad - and her grandparents! - makes a lady swoon.)
I want a beautiful and nice girl. I found a girl, which had the perfect character, but she was not really my type. Ironically she was even one of the very first I talked to... But then I asked myself if I could really love her for the rest of my life and I said no, so I moved on. Well, main reason was, she was already too old.

But I am glad, that you liked, how he helped others. But this is not really the same, as me. Thing is, yes, I care. But not that much for every stranger on the street. I have my own ideas how to help others. I focus on my girls. Would you have loved your husband, as well, if he told the family to abandon a family member to save others? Because that is my way of being nice. What you girls see as nice is just to help the old, the weak. But what if I just want to help hot girls?

But again, are you trying to win over every girl you meet, or the right girls for you? Impressing someone is a pleasure but realizing you have a natural rapport with them is the first building block of a relationship.
Just those who vibe with me.
 

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Had a heavy fight with a girl I liked for 2 years now. Its really pathetic with us. She lives just a few minutes away, but we never met. She has social anxieties and had actually a crush on me. But because we never met, things went down hill. We really liked each other, but the internet destroys it over time. Big misunderstandings, loneliness which lead to anger and so on.. This night she called me stupid... She doesnt respect me anymore. I dont know if its because of those misunderstandings or if she is just shit testing me. When I wanted to prove I was right, she started to laugh it off, how silly I am and that I always try to blame others. She is so childish... but on the other hand this turns me on so much.. I want her to cling on me. I know you guys will say: dude, this is sick bla bla. But still.. its hawt when a girl needs a guy and is always ready for him. Im not always like this. I mean, I can appreciate grown women like you, but it just does not turn me on so much. But maybe it should. Because that girl is going on my nerves. The only reason you would depend on someone else and cling is, when you are too stupid to handle life yourself. And it seems she is so stupid, to even think I am stupid. And then its lost. She is not even able to discuss things and let me prove I was right. Even though some of this comes also from her lack of time. But if she would stay calm in the first place, things would be clear fast.

Anyway I try to get into healthier relationships, but I dont know.. normal women dont like me. They can smell I am an outsider. It already starts with their clothes. If they are too new and clean, you know its a mainstream idiot. Sadly most girls look like that. And in general many women just seem like they have autism. Dont want to be rude. I mean I love women. But seriously... they act like robots sometimes. Especially now that you need to keep distance because of corona. They see you and like a robot they adjust their distance. So silly... They just follow what society dictates them. Which could be fine, if they would do as I say. But sadly they listen to the mainstream. And it kills my mood.
 

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You seem to be doing all right, considering most people have that much trouble finding a partner.
First time I ever heard of someone calculating a moral code. That kinda kills it for me.
Ever try being spontaneous? Anyway, don't rush it. You're fine.
 

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AHAJHAJOISDIHAHAHAHAH

My half ex deleted her couple picture with her new guy and had to delete our log. This can only mean that had a fight and I was right and he was a creep, that would pressure her. I told her. Now its over. And she has nothing. Feels good.

But on the other hand it feels bad. She could have been mine. But now I dont want her anymore.



You seem to be doing all right, considering most people have that much trouble finding a partner.
First time I ever heard of someone calculating a moral code. That kinda kills it for me.
Ever try being spontaneous? Anyway, don't rush it. You're fine.
Feels good to hear others have trouble too. I hate it, when people see me as loser, because what I want most are girls, but I get constantly hit in the face. But its not just me. Its the whole fucking planet. And most of the relationships from Gen X or Boomers were just out of financial need. For Boomers more than for Gen X. We these days have so much more competition and weird problems, like GIRLS WEARING A FUCKING MASK SO YOU CANT KNOW IF THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL!!!!!111 I dont know who had it harder, because the war and after war years were fucking hard. But this generation deals with its own attacks. So much chemistry is in our environment, that lowers testosterone for example and makes it much harder to man up. And even if you are, then feminism will punch you into the face. It such a weird time.
 
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