That any institution or tradition could be beaten into the heads/hearts of anyone SO hard, that they could be filled with such tremendous fear that they would override the instinctual need to protect and nurture their own young speaks volumes about those institutions and traditions. WHY would anyone want to put his or herself between spouses or parents and their children? Many adults so afflicted are afraid to think the question, let alone ask it. I am beginning to see such parents/mates as victims of a great ugliness that they likely had no choice in as those who were to nurture THEM, filled them with. From where I sit, it seems that this cycle needs to be broken. I am just not sure how. Doing so with hate or violence tends to have the opposite effect. Is it possible with love? I really don't know.