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Hi fellow INFJs,

I was browsing youtube for MBTI videos, and found this only one for ISFJ.

YouTube - I'm an ISFJ

As far as I understand, constant eye movement is typical for INFJ. But there seems to me some differences.

I can very much identify with this video and several others with a lot of eye movement.


But there seems to me to some differences.

In the first video I would say it is possible to see how the guy visualise specific situations to draw from while talking. His eye movements also seem to be synchronised to the hesitations in his speech, as to indicate that there is some connection.

As for the INFJ video, the eye movement seems much more disconnected from the verbal communication, almost as if the eye movement is not even related to the speaking. Whereas the ISFJ eyes can be understood as actually "looking" for something, the INFJ eyes seem almost to avoid being part of the conversation giving the impression that the person speaking seems slightly off to his own world.

Do you agree or disagree? Is this something you can identify with or have experienced?

Hint: It is much clearer after the first few minutes, when they start to feel more comfortable with the camera.
 

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I wonder if it might be his gaze, the infj ...

When I am spacing out or thinking, I don't really look like I am... I look like I'm concentrating at something, usu intensely. I can look like I get distracted and see something in the distance or I look like I'm being avoidant (is this a word?) to whomever is talking to me. That's my impression of how some people react to me. Although the infj here, his gaze is not so strong I think
 

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The first video is from our very own native PerC member HandiAce, maybe you should ask him what he thinks! :happy:
 

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interesting.

the only thing I personally noticed and have noticed with anyone who is an extraverted feeler is they tend to look down when feeling their own emotions or the emotions of others.
they then relay that emotion pretty much right after they imediatly look down.
I dunno. it's interesting stuff....
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ISFJ's and INFJ's both move their eyes while thinking in conversations. The differences you are noticing is most likely do to the different ways in which we think. ISFJ's eyes movements are probably more based in reality(looking up while thinking about an airplane) and reliving that sensation, where as INFJ's eye movements are probably more based on the intangible forces at work(looking up while thinking about the ideal of love) that they feel certain ways about.

Thats my thinking on the matter anyway(from a sleep deprived and hastily thrown together perspective).
 

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interesting.

the only thing I personally noticed and have noticed with anyone who is an extraverted feeler is they tend to look down when feeling their own emotions or the emotions of others.
they then relay that emotion pretty much right after they imediatly look down.
I dunno. it's interesting stuff....
eh...
bahbah we wah!
bahbah we wah!
lol
I don't know what I am tlaking about... it's getting late. lol
Please do keep sharing, I like your thoughts...

I think I see what you're trying to get at with the looking down thing, but I'm not sure. Can you find a video?
 

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What you described about me, the first person, particularly the part about "looking for" an answer when pausing is PRECISELY what I am doing. It is rather difficult to continue a monologue at times because when I say stuff I am not used to saying, I need to "read" something and that is what I'm essentially do when I pause and move my eyes in another direction. I find that making head/eye movements helps to shake up what I am looking for if that makes any sense. When my eyes look up at my head, I am silently asking myself "Hey! What's the answer? What am I trying to say?".

I always catch myself looking away from people whenever I finish a sentence too. I don't know if it's a shyness thing or not. It might be part of my behavior, though the camera shows that it may not be... unless I'm camera shy.

The other thing too is that relevant information pops into my head upon seeing something. Like today, I prepared myself a cup of tea, forgot about it when I left to go to class, then remembered it later when I saw a hot dog stand on the way over. I remember things by sensing other things. Another example like with the tea beverage. Before I leave, I pause and ask myself "Ok, what am I feeling that isn't right?... Well my throat is dr- OH! My water bottle!" then I go back inside to pick up what I was missing. I'm not sure if everybody does this though, but then again, I thought everyone could tell what a specific musical note is without a tuner.

I'm really excited that you shared my video with other fellow members here. I love it when people make observations about me. Not ones regarding how awkward I might be of course :tongue:
 

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I find it difficult to concentrate when I look at someone directly in the eye while I am talking. I'll pick up on how they are reacting to my words which will make me stutter or lose my confidence in what I am saying. To avoid this I'll look at anything BUT the person I am talking to so that I have a sort of barrier and can then speak freely. When I look around while talking or listening, it's because I want to basically close my eyes and just listen, but if I did that people would be like "You're not even listening!" Hence why we just stare at random shit. I've seen some ISFJ's look around while talking much like INFJ's, but they are actually taking in information about the world still and this can sometimes cause a mental hiccup so to speak. For example, my mom (ISFJ) will be talking to me and then look at the refrigerator and say that when she in fact meant to say freezer. This happens daily and it amuses me each time I witness it. lol
 

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also i like the sort of out of focus qualities that INFJ's have when we talk.. because we disengage from this current world to either our past or future - something of a different dimension.. sort of oblivious, dream-focusing, disconnected from 'this world' but rather channelling 'that world' and i find that very appealing :)
 

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I find it difficult to concentrate when I look at someone directly in the eye while I am talking. I'll pick up on how they are reacting to my words which will make me stutter or lose my confidence in what I am saying.
Interesting... I hate not being able to pick up all the small cues when talking to people. But I don't think I look them in the eyes either. Must remember to observe myself in those situation to how I manage to do both...
 

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I also do that^ I have got myself into quite a bit of flack for it lol
Maybe if I look at them, then I am concentrating on their face and I lose track of things. If my eyes are elsewhere, I go "into my head" and I can find the right words there
 

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I usually give almost unbroken eye contact. Like staring into their soul. This is the case in 1-on-1 conversations.

The less involved I am in a conversation, the more my eyes start to just sort of wander all over the place, and I end up becoming more interested in the general atmosphere than what the person in the conversation is saying.
 

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If I am super interested and just listening, I'll stare for long periods of time at the person.

The opposite, if I know I have to initiate the conversation and have to do most of the talking I become pretty usure of myself. As a result, I will look around while I am trying to think of what I should say. I don't get distracted, it helps me think. But my guess is the person I am talking to thinks I am distracted.

Something reminded me of this too. I kind of guage the other persons eye contact and gestures and go off of them. If they look at me and smile I will loosen up. If their eyes are shifty , or don't smile much, or maybe even rub their nose at me, I become very cautious and will slow my speech down and probably look around while I try to navigate the conversation. These latter conversations, I'm not a fan of.
 

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also i like the sort of out of focus qualities that INFJ's have when we talk.. because we disengage from this current world to either our past or future - something of a different dimension.. sort of oblivious, dream-focusing, disconnected from 'this world' but rather channelling 'that world' and i find that very appealing :)
My wife would complain to me about this now and then. I would be looking at her with my eyes, but not with my mind, and she would get the feeling that I was no longer listening, so I would have to either look away, or try to focus harder on her.
 
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