INFJs and guilt

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Freeflowingthoughts

Discussion Starter · Aug 27, 2015

Title speaks for itself. I just rid myself of guilt tonight. I was reminded of how I felt as a child. So relieving. Calming. Grounding. I think Fi in the position it is makes us very accumulative of guilt. Just a thought.

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Freeflowingthoughts

Discussion Starter · #2 · Aug 27, 2015

Before you mofos call me an INFP read this article Fi in INFJs | Stellar Maze

NomadLeviathan

· #3 · Aug 27, 2015

Is it something you should feel guilty for? Or an unnecessary burden? Or has the issue been resolved? Forgiveness sought and given (on both ends)? Changes implemented to make the bad thing less likely to happen again?

Then yeah, man, I say let it go.

jdstankosky

· #4 · Aug 28, 2015

Freeflowingthoughts said:
Before you mofos call me an INFP read this article Fi in INFJs | Stellar Maze

Why do you feel it necessary to provide evidence that you are definitely possibly an INFJ? That's a big red flag in my opinion

septic tank

· #5 · Aug 28, 2015

Freeflowingthoughts said:
Title speaks for itself. I just rid myself of guilt tonight. I was reminded of how I felt as a child. So relieving. Calming. Grounding. I think Fi in the position it is makes us very accumulative of guilt. Just a thought.

I need to do the same, Fi is usually in the secondary position under Ni for me. It makes me a perfectionist and un-accepting of myself. Kind of hate it, damn thing. *shakes fist at

jdstankosky said:
Why do you feel it necessary to provide evidence that you are definitely possibly an INFJ? That's a big red flag in my opinion

Because people are sensitive about how they label themselves and what others think about it. Happens a lot.

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Freeflowingthoughts

Discussion Starter · #6 · Aug 28, 2015

jdstankosky said:
Why do you feel it necessary to provide evidence that you are definitely possibly an INFJ? That's a big red flag in my opinion

Ahaha no because on other threads I had to deal with this shit.

Freeflowingthoughts

Discussion Starter · #7 · Aug 28, 2015

jdstankosky said:
Why do you feel it necessary to provide evidence that you are definitely possibly an INFJ? That's a big red flag in my opinion

The one guy who kept calling me an INFP I ended up getting him to admit he was an INFP lol. http://personalitycafe.com/infj-forum-protectors/590098-truth-about-estps-istps-infjs-enfjs-5.html

Freeflowingthoughts

Discussion Starter · #8 · Aug 28, 2015

Nabbit said:
I need to do the same, Fi is usually in the secondary position under Ni for me. It makes me a perfectionist and un-accepting of myself. Kind of hate it, damn thing. *shakes fist at

Lol. Yeah Socionics says that Our lead and demonstrative function are our evaluatory functions. We always use this no matter what. Like a guiding stick. Eventually we have to release all of it before it builds up

Freeflowingthoughts

Discussion Starter · #9 · Aug 28, 2015

I know this seems like a vague topic that shouldn't have been posted about. I just believe that guilt plays such a huge part in an INFJs life. At least, it does in my own.

Taywc1

· #10 · Aug 28, 2015

I know what you mean with guilt. I feel guilty for things I've done so many years ago. The only way I can stop the pain from those moments in time is to try to focus on something else so I can try to think strait again. But yeah guilt from my childhood still stays around

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Jeremy8419

· #11 · Aug 28, 2015

Freeflowingthoughts said:
The one guy who kept calling me an INFP I ended up getting him to admit he was an INFP lol. http://personalitycafe.com/infj-forum-protectors/590098-truth-about-estps-istps-infjs-enfjs-5.html

I wasn't serious. I was baiting you into something, and mods locked topic prior to my final post.

Freeflowingthoughts

Discussion Starter · #12 · Aug 29, 2015

Jeremy8419 said:
I wasn't serious. I was baiting you into something, and mods locked topic prior to my final post.

Sigh. Jeremy I see you haven't changed your MBTI description. Yet, you have 'EII' on your socionics description. I don't want to get into another drawn out (hijacked) thread. But The evidence is undeniable on that thread and the last few threads we had our arguments.

We came to a definete conclusion on that last thread. It was undeniable.

I'm dissapointed that instead of doing the right thing, and making a decision for your bettermant you've decided to keep living the lie. A lie that a lot of people on all your own threads call you out on. It becomes immediately clear whenever I speak to you we're vastly different. I get agressive while you get passive-agressive. I'm not going to lay the mountain of evidence. The thread speaks for itself. Your post right here is passive agressive "mods locked topic prior to my final post." Nah dude. You had been well and truly done before it was locked. The evidence is all there.

I genuinely thought you were going to have a period of self discovery and realisation. Whatever, be whoever you want to be. You're entitled. INFJ, INTJ, ESTP, ISFJ. That's the way that Typology works, you can choose one based off of what you feel you should be. It's certainly not something you're born with that can never change, The idea that you're stuck with it whether you like it or not just hurts my feels. smh

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Freeflowingthoughts

Discussion Starter · #13 · Aug 29, 2015

@Jeremy8419

"I guess that would make me an INFP since I match that one best." -Jeremy8419 #quoteofthecentury

Jeremy8419

· #14 · Aug 29, 2015

@Freeflowingthoughts
Like I said, I was baiting you, and mods locked the thread, because they knew where it was going.
Both Bukalov and Gulenko state that, empirically, Judging correlates with Rationality.

Freeflowingthoughts

Discussion Starter · #15 · Aug 29, 2015

Jeremy8419 said:
@Freeflowingthoughts
Like I said, I was baiting you, and mods locked the thread, because they knew where it was going.
Both Bukalov and Gulenko state that, empirically, Judging correlates with Rationality.

Lol you werent baiting anyone. You were arguing your point for pages and then finally admitted when the evidence was overwhelming. The point is you can't deny this, because it's all there for people to see.

Your point about judging corelating to rationality has nothing to do with anything. I'm not going to go through socionics 101 with you again. Re-read our old threads if you need some clarity.

Jeremy8419

· #16 · Aug 29, 2015

Sorry, @Freeflowingthoughts...
You stated directly that you typed via functions, and that doing so was the opposite of your results per MBTI test. This is what I was baiting. Your type via MBTI tests, by definition, is your MBTI type. You previously admitted that your MBTI test result was INFP, so, by definition, your are an INFP in MBTI. I even started using socionics Fe, and little happy faces, to get you to lower your guard...
Also...

gulenko said:
The first factor is extroversion, which correlates to socionics extroversion. It is the first noticeable, "on the surface" trait. The second factor is openness, which is when a person is open to new things, which correlates to socionics intuition. The third factor is conscientiousness, which relates to socionics rationality. The fourth factor is agreeableness, which means that you will agree with society's standards, which correlates with socionics ethics, especially ethics of relationships, which is introverted feeling.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator said:
These correlations refer to the second letter shown, i.e. the table shows that I and P have negative correlation to extraversion and conscientiousness respectively (so conscientiousness correlates with J), while F and N have positive correlation to agreeableness and openness respectively.

Freeflowingthoughts

Discussion Starter · #17 · Aug 29, 2015

Jeremy8419 said:
Sorry, @Freeflowingthoughts...
You stated directly that you typed via functions, and that doing so was the opposite of your results per MBTI test. This is what I was baiting. Your type via MBTI tests, by definition, is your MBTI type. You previously admitted that your MBTI test result was INFP, so, by definition, your are an INFP in MBTI. I even started using socionics Fe, and little happy faces, to get you to lower your guard...
Also...

Listen dude. I'm not doing this with you. Stop commenting on my threads. We've well and truly shut the book on this matter. Goodbye

Jeremy8419

· #18 · Aug 29, 2015

Freeflowingthoughts said:
Listen dude. I'm not doing this with you. Stop commenting on my threads. We've well and truly shut the book on this matter. Goodbye

No, we didn't. The thread was locked. YOU brought me up.

Freeflowingthoughts

Discussion Starter · #19 · Aug 29, 2015

Jeremy8419 said:
Sorry, @Freeflowingthoughts...
You stated directly that you typed via functions, and that doing so was the opposite of your results per MBTI test. This is what I was baiting. Your type via MBTI tests, by definition, is your MBTI type. You previously admitted that your MBTI test result was INFP, so, by definition, your are an INFP in MBTI. I even started using socionics Fe, and little happy faces, to get you to lower your guard...
Also...

Okay, bye bye.

Jeremy8419

· #20 · Aug 29, 2015

Freeflowingthoughts said:
Okay, bye bye.

Too late, already won.

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