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How would ISFPs and INFPs differ in the way they see art, make art, define art, the art they've made, including music, including performing arts, etc. Any kind of art you're particularly into, explain what you think would be the difference between these two types.
 
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The major difference between my ISFP bestie and I is that she's very in tune to describing things as they are? Hard to explain so, I'll give a couple examples:


We're shopping for clothing:

Her: "This green jacket looks cheaply made and it's too long for my torso"
Me: "This green jacket reminds me of when I lived in France and how we'd all go strawberry picking in the garden"

We're eating out:

Her: "This salad is too small for the price"
Me: "Wouldn't it be cute if tiny little rabbits lived in my salad?"

I associate and process a lot (if not everything...) to certain memories or paint up scenarios that I find appealing and unique while she's able to literally assess what's in front of her by describing something as it is and not for what it might or could be; yet, somehow- there's still that whimsical flair and humorous touch she's able to place into such a dry description of things.

I also think she's way better at executing her artistic abilities while I would rather study up or research about art and then maybe be inspired enough to do it myself.

She dresses very nicely too. I tend to dress out of place but, because I like it- it doesn't matter. She's very good at keeping up with trends and putting all types of looks together.
 

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The major difference between my ISFP bestie and I is that she's very in tune to describing thing as they are? Hard to explain so, I'll give a couple examples:


We're shopping for clothing:

Her: "This green jacket looks cheaply made and it's too long for my torso"
Me: "This green jacket reminds me of when I lived in France and how we'd all go strawberry picking in the garden"

We're eating out:

Her: "This salad is too small for the price"
Me: "Wouldn't it be cute if tiny little rabbits lived in my salad?"

I associate and process a lot (if not everything...) to certain memories or paint up scenarios that I find appealing and unique while she's able to literally assess what's in front of her by describing something as it is and not for what it might or could be; yet, somehow- there's still that whimsical flair and humorous touch she's able to place into such a dry description of things.

I also think she's way better at executing her artistic abilities while I would rather study up or research about art and then maybe be inspired enough to do it myself.

She dresses very nicely too. I tend to dress out of place but, because I like it- it doesn't matter. She's very good at keeping up with trends and putting all types of looks together.
According to this I'm an ISFP. :laughing: So how would you think an INFP would do describing things?
 

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I like describing the beauty in things that exist and talking about how they make me feel. I'm also more likely to let my art speak for me rather than trying to assign a specific meaning or convey a message. The meaning (if there is one) just gets conveyed in the sensory details. It's hard to explain.
 

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One fine distinction i noticed is that ISFP's tend to focus on the aesthetics more than anything else, where art is designed with the purpose to stimulate the senses and achieve peak experience, while INFP's are usually more concerned with embedded meanings and the narrative in the art, often leaving a string of interlinking meanings to be explored. Sometimes a cluster of meanings could be discovered denoting a general point or theme.

How they see art ties into what i described above, but i feel they both are impressed by aesthetics and meanings. As for how art is made ISFP's seem to like and prefer working with specific tools to compose their art, like a musician and his guitar or a painter with a her brush and building on a specialization and its subgroups and then honing it. INFP's on the other hand seem indifferent to whether specific tools are involved, meanings and stories are in everything tangible aswell as things unseen, so there is always material for the art.
So in a sense whatever resource is accessible and fits the nature of the art will likely be an INFP's tool.

Here is a INFP & ISFP at the height of their music career around the same time (80's). Generally the INFP clip made me question "why? while the ISFP clip was "cool".

What kind of art i'm into? I like art that offers a fresh perspectives and questions things. What that means i'm not completely sure. Although... surrealism art seems to be fitting that criteria, see the Tumblr link in signature for examples. Also, this might be coincidence but the recent pics in "INFP porn" seem to contrast nicely the difference in taste generally.
 

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We're shopping for clothing:

Her: "This green jacket looks cheaply made and it's too long for my torso"
Me: "This green jacket reminds me of when I lived in France and how we'd all go strawberry picking in the garden"

We're eating out:

Her: "This salad is too small for the price"
Me: "Wouldn't it be cute if tiny little rabbits lived in my salad?"

I associate and process a lot (if not everything...) to certain memories or paint up scenarios that I find appealing and unique while she's able to literally assess what's in front of her by describing something as it is and not for what it might or could be; yet, somehow- there's still that whimsical flair and humorous touch she's able to place into such a dry description of things.

I also think she's way better at executing her artistic abilities while I would rather study up or research about art and then maybe be inspired enough to do it myself.

She dresses very nicely too. I tend to dress out of place but, because I like it- it doesn't matter. She's very good at keeping up with trends and putting all types of looks together.
I am the same as your ISFP friend in this sense haha. I'm very picky on aesthetics and I often pick at clothes for looking cheaper on quality (this is why I despise Forever 21, though their clothes also are cheap in material and don't last long so it's true). I would also say something similar when analyzing a food and how much I'm paying for the portion/quality. The things you say actually remind me of my INFJ friend! She's very, very dreamy like and loves to reminisce on things as well as imagine. The little rabbits living in the salad sounds like something she would say.

However, when it comes to music appreciation I am definitely like you. When I go do my HIIT cardio, I MUST listen to music that pertains to the current thoughts/fantasies in my head. They get me pumped, like the background music in my own little mental cinema.
 

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The major difference between my ISFP bestie and I is that she's very in tune to describing things as they are? Hard to explain so, I'll give a couple examples:


We're shopping for clothing:

Her: "This green jacket looks cheaply made and it's too long for my torso"
Me: "This green jacket reminds me of when I lived in France and how we'd all go strawberry picking in the garden"

We're eating out:

Her: "This salad is too small for the price"
Me: "Wouldn't it be cute if tiny little rabbits lived in my salad?"

I associate and process a lot (if not everything...) to certain memories or paint up scenarios that I find appealing and unique while she's able to literally assess what's in front of her by describing something as it is and not for what it might or could be; yet, somehow- there's still that whimsical flair and humorous touch she's able to place into such a dry description of things.

I also think she's way better at executing her artistic abilities while I would rather study up or research about art and then maybe be inspired enough to do it myself.

She dresses very nicely too. I tend to dress out of place but, because I like it- it doesn't matter. She's very good at keeping up with trends and putting all types of looks together.
I'm more like: This jacket is cheap and the salad is too small. I don't find it necessary to search for a deeper meaning in every single detail.

ISFP art is sensual and bold. Oh boy I love 'em paintings, so colorful, so joyful. My paintings are always very nostalgic, pastel and "picture like". Generally I don't like painting it does not satisfy me. Whenever I tried to give them this bold look it looked very unauthentic. Probably that's why I chose architecture, it doesn't need any deep meaning, but it has a purpose. I can project some bold detail and it satisfies me.

I don't know if it is a typical INFP behavior but I like to sense art, I always need to touch it. I try not to touch paintings but I always look closer. I am obsessed with textures and how they feel. Whenever I'm around architecture you might see me touching the concrete and taking pictures of this texture or some other context, especially texture vs. nature etc. I also like to clap or knock inside and hear the noise wandering around. It's my porn to test the object.

If it comes to my sense of clothing and general look - well, there is a vivid difference, ISFP are always so sexual and well dressed imo. I try to look good and I buy pretty things, but probably have problem with matching them as well as ISFP. Also what I found that I could never achieve such level because I always have periods when I live in my head and just can't bother with clothing myself so I have my "rescue pile" of plain and black clothes. Coco Chanel said that black is chick and highlights the color of one's eyes. :)
 

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Some things I was going to say have been said already in this thread, such as about ISFPs being more in tune with the sensory experience and working with that, while INFPs are said to be more about the meaning. I'd say maybe the INFP may also be more interested in exploring multiple possibilities while also exploring and putting out there their inner world which, in the creative process, they may have a deep need for people to "get" or feel. I know from personal experience as an INFP that there is this need to explore what's inside and how everything interconnects, and sometimes a desire for others to "see" that. I'm sure it's similar for the ISFP, but maybe in a different way.

I'd say I'm kinda in between the two though, I don't always find it easy to discover/explore a meaning in other people's work, and sometimes do just enjoy the look of it and how it makes me feel. Feeling is very important here, for both ISFP and INFP.
 
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I think everyone here, especially @Tina Belcher has a good idea of the differences.

Here is a good video on the differences between INFP and ISFP music:


I really like this video, it gives a lot of examples.


Edit: Also got this video. It is just about the difference between INFPs and ISFPs in general, but it parrots a lot of what people were saying in this thread.
 
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@Miniblini Thanks for posting that video, I was briefly thinking of posting it as well after discovering it on this site. A very apt point made in that video that I never thought of myself is the dancing/movement thing - he says ISFPs are more likely to have all this choreography, whereas the INFP is more "stuck in the music" :tongue: I think INFPs probably prefer to just naturally "feel" the music during a performance, whereas the ISFP is probably thinking more about the performance in terms of sensing it, so puts more conscious effort into the movements?
 

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Based on my observation, INFPs usually leave out some major details in their art in order to give room for countless interpretations. Producing a more symbolic or minimal output with lots of missing piece which in turn open doors to a greater number of possibilities. I would say INFPs subconsciously expect their audience to fully decode the message being conveyed through their art while refusing to give away all the clues in order to achieve it.

As an INFP, like what other contributors of this thread were trying to say, I tend to focus on the essence of art and its 'major key points' and what it really means to me, and be willing to spend an enormous amount of time just to come up with those elements before finalizing my visualized output. ISFPs on the other hand tend to fill every details in their creation resulting into a more intricate artwork that doesn't need more explanation in order to understand it. Because they can deliver their means by its actual sense.

That's what I've noticed from my older brother who is typed as ISFP and who also has always had a huge interest in art, specifically in visual arts and music. He can come up with a crystal clear vision and be able to materialize that vision effortlessly without any alterations as he is only predominantly stimulated by his current environment.

INFPs on the other hand are prone to having multiple alterations after they had already made their original vision for their artwork. The result is a less accurate representation of it that leads to a more inaccurate interpretations. I think its one of the reason why they are often reluctant to express themselves even in the form of art. And this might explain why many INFPs usually gravitate towards writing. Because in writing, alterations from the original idea is a sign of idea expansion. It helps to create a larger scale to find the links between seemingly unrelated components -- something that tickles Ne users. Secondly, going out into the world is not really a requirement in order to get truly inspired or stimulated. Also, they might feel that their set of visions is too broad to be contained into a 'limited' canvas, like in visual arts.

In me and my brother's case, it goes to show that Ne is quicker in triggering Fi to work in action, and has an advantage of reaching a broader source of input/ideas that often transcend from reality. But is subject to many alterations from its original vision, therefore a less accurate output. Se on the other hand only relies on its current environment so is less likely to get 'disturbed' by new or unwanted inputs (unless you deliberately disturb and annoy the Se user like what I occasionally did with my brother). Hence, producing a fairly accurate and more detailed art representation.
 

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Here is a INFP & ISFP at the height of their music career around the same time (80's). Generally the INFP clip made me question "why? while the ISFP clip was "cool".
I think your typing is wrong in both cases.


So, the difference - we will be perfect in our minds, but come across as non-perfect. They will feel they're just churning something out, while it will be technically stunning.

There are such things as INFPs capable of perfection, but under the structured surface, there WILL be a glorious mess.
 
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I think your typing is wrong in both cases.


So, the difference - we will be perfect in our minds, but come across as non-perfect. They will feel they're just churning something out, while it will be technically stunning.

There are such things as INFPs capable of perfection, but under the structured surface, there WILL be a glorious mess.
What would you type them as?
 

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1. One of the biggest differences is that INFPs hold grudges, and when they dislike someone, they?re very good at imagining more reasons to dislike that person or picking up hostility from that person when none is really intended (Ne services Fi?s ends.) Neither type is openly confrontational, but when ISFPs are offended, they?re more likely to just remove themselves from the situation, quit worrying about it and move on the next thing. INFPs dwell.

On the plus side, auxiliary Pe makes them appear outwardly flexible, calm, open, accomodating and generally very open to and respectful of the ideas and feelings of others. INFPs can provide terrific moral guidance, and you can always trust them to remain loyal to their friends and their ideals.

2. INFPs in a social environment are typically quieter than ISFPs, and much more interested in personal one-on-one conversation than in whatever activities (personal note: spot on!) . ISFPs are much more activity-oriented who are going on at the party?video games, sports, drinking games, what have you?ISFPs are more likely to be *doing* something. INFPs are far more likely to suffer from ?NP never gets anything done? syndrome, spending too much time dreaming up pie-in-the-sky visions for the future and not enough actually making them happen.

3. INFPs are more likely to reach for broad, idealistic moral ideals and often hold high ideals about change or service toward society in general and how progress might be made. Though typically fairly quiet, if one of these areas of interest comes up they will leap into a conversation and provide often unexpected keen insights and substantial conversation. It?s pretty cool sometimes. A stereotypical INFP college major might be philosophy.

4. INFPs remain outwardly very very chill until their ideals are violated, at which point they will become rigid and inflexible. You?re seeing auxiliary Ne most of the time when they?re interacting with you, but when some external threat causes Fi to take over, there will be no convincing him otherwise?think INTP who?s sure he?s logically correct about something. It can be a little silly at times, but a balanced INFP will provide terrific, very personal conversation and companionship.

5. ISFPs might be generally better at cooking, painting, and sports due to the Se, or at least take an interest in it. INFPs may suck at all of the above and/or have little interest in all three.

6. ISFPs are very aesthetically gifted and they are very up to date on the current fashion and trends while INFPs are not. An ISFP?s room will be neater, organised, colorful, very expressive and beautifully designed and decorated while and INFPs room will be cluttered, disorganized, filled with sentimental objects and books.

7. INFPs, unlike ISFPs, tend to prefer ?weird? or unconventional people.
 

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What would you type them as?
I see him as somebody who has Ti or Te far up in his stack and I see her as somebody who would rather have Ni than Ne. I should not have phrased what I said in such a subjective manner, though, so I'm sorry.

1. One of the biggest differences is that INFPs hold grudges, and when they dislike someone, they?re very good at imagining more reasons to dislike that person or picking up hostility from that person when none is really intended (Ne services Fi?s ends.) Neither type is openly confrontational, but when ISFPs are offended, they?re more likely to just remove themselves from the situation, quit worrying about it and move on the next thing. INFPs dwell.
It's a chain reaction. And yeah, truth hurts, but I admit to this being true and I...have been trying to work on it.

On the plus side, auxiliary Pe makes them appear outwardly flexible, calm, open, accomodating and generally very open to and respectful of the ideas and feelings of others. INFPs can provide terrific moral guidance, and you can always trust them to remain loyal to their friends and their ideals.
4. INFPs remain outwardly very very chill until their ideals are violated, at which point they will become rigid and inflexible. You?re seeing auxiliary Ne most of the time when they?re interacting with you, but when some external threat causes Fi to take over, there will be no convincing him otherwise?think INTP who?s sure he?s logically correct about something. It can be a little silly at times, but a balanced INFP will provide terrific, very personal conversation and companionship.
*snort* Nice typo. "Pe" Extraverted...penetration? Pancake? Pediatrician? Peter Pan? Petunia? I make no sense, sorry.

No, really. We lure into closedness with openness.

2. INFPs in a social environment are typically quieter than ISFPs, and much more interested in personal one-on-one conversation than in whatever activities (personal note: spot on!) . ISFPs are much more activity-oriented who are going on at the party?video games, sports, drinking games, what have you?ISFPs are more likely to be *doing* something. INFPs are far more likely to suffer from ?NP never gets anything done? syndrome, spending too much time dreaming up pie-in-the-sky visions for the future and not enough actually making them happen.
I sleep on parties, bus rides full of people who all know one another and so on. BORING.

5. ISFPs might be generally better at cooking, painting, and sports due to the Se, or at least take an interest in it. INFPs may suck at all of the above and/or have little interest in all three.
This is a stereotype I disagree with. But maybe I am the minority. *gets bike at -4 degrees on the first day of the cycle*

6. ISFPs are very aesthetically gifted and they are very up to date on the current fashion and trends while INFPs are not. An ISFP?s room will be neater, organised, colorful, very expressive and beautifully designed and decorated while and INFPs room will be cluttered, disorganized, filled with sentimental objects and books.
This one was painted in 1988. If somebody explains that the colour is supposed to be pink and not grey, I have a LONG explanation for why I bought a bunch of useless crap instead of paying for a new coat of paint. ALL TWENTY TIMES.

7. INFPs, unlike ISFPs, tend to prefer ?weird? or unconventional people.
LIEBE IST FÜR ALLE DA! I mean, yes.
 

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The major difference between my ISFP bestie and I is that she's very in tune to describing things as they are? Hard to explain so, I'll give a couple examples:


We're shopping for clothing:

Her: "This green jacket looks cheaply made and it's too long for my torso"
Me: "This green jacket reminds me of when I lived in France and how we'd all go strawberry picking in the garden"

We're eating out:

Her: "This salad is too small for the price"
Me: "Wouldn't it be cute if tiny little rabbits lived in my salad?"

I associate and process a lot (if not everything...) to certain memories or paint up scenarios that I find appealing and unique while she's able to literally assess what's in front of her by describing something as it is and not for what it might or could be; yet, somehow- there's still that whimsical flair and humorous touch she's able to place into such a dry description of things.

I also think she's way better at executing her artistic abilities while I would rather study up or research about art and then maybe be inspired enough to do it myself.

She dresses very nicely too. I tend to dress out of place but, because I like it- it doesn't matter. She's very good at keeping up with trends and putting all types of looks together.
hm... I go does this express who I am ( at the mall)
And at dinner I am like ( I am aware they used to little or too much salt).
 

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I'm both... I think..
I have a song on spotify I took great attention to detail in the music. But the words are very meaningful meant to provoke one's emotions in a positive way and full of meaning.
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1. One of the biggest differences is that INFPs hold grudges, and when they dislike someone, they?re very good at imagining more reasons to dislike that person or picking up hostility from that person when none is really intended (Ne services Fi?s ends.) Neither type is openly confrontational, but when ISFPs are offended, they?re more likely to just remove themselves from the situation, quit worrying about it and move on the next thing. INFPs dwell.

On the plus side, auxiliary Pe makes them appear outwardly flexible, calm, open, accomodating and generally very open to and respectful of the ideas and feelings of others. INFPs can provide terrific moral guidance, and you can always trust them to remain loyal to their friends and their ideals.

2. INFPs in a social environment are typically quieter than ISFPs, and much more interested in personal one-on-one conversation than in whatever activities (personal note: spot on!) . ISFPs are much more activity-oriented who are going on at the party?video games, sports, drinking games, what have you?ISFPs are more likely to be doing something. INFPs are far more likely to suffer from ?NP never gets anything done? syndrome, spending too much time dreaming up pie-in-the-sky visions for the future and not enough actually making them happen.

3. INFPs are more likely to reach for broad, idealistic moral ideals and often hold high ideals about change or service toward society in general and how progress might be made. Though typically fairly quiet, if one of these areas of interest comes up they will leap into a conversation and provide often unexpected keen insights and substantial conversation. It?s pretty cool sometimes. A stereotypical INFP college major might be philosophy.

4. INFPs remain outwardly very very chill until their ideals are violated, at which point they will become rigid and inflexible. You?re seeing auxiliary Ne most of the time when they?re interacting with you, but when some external threat causes Fi to take over, there will be no convincing him otherwise?think INTP who?s sure he?s logically correct about something. It can be a little silly at times, but a balanced INFP will provide terrific, very personal conversation and companionship.

5. ISFPs might be generally better at cooking, painting, and sports due to the Se, or at least take an interest in it. INFPs may suck at all of the above and/or have little interest in all three.

6. ISFPs are very aesthetically gifted and they are very up to date on the current fashion and trends while INFPs are not. An ISFP?s room will be neater, organised, colorful, very expressive and beautifully designed and decorated while and INFPs room will be cluttered, disorganized, filled with sentimental objects and books.

7. INFPs, unlike ISFPs, tend to prefer ?weird? or unconventional people.
Yes to a lot of Isfp things like always doing something but also I can be deep in thought about complex issues or things regarding who I am and can spend ours thinking of the past present and future... but my lyrics have meaning and I think of impacting society with what I post or say or write and again I don't stay in the present and am very in my head... XD so idk!
 

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All this is from Isabel Briggs Myers ----->>

ISFP Artist: "... the work of their hands is usually more eloquent than anything they say..."

ISFP Artist: "...they consistently tend to underestimate and understate. Probably ISFP is the most modest type. Anything ISFPs do well, they take for granted as no great achievment....in most cases, they ought to think more highly than they do..."

The ISFP and the INFP: "...The effectiveness of introverted feeling types depends on their finding a channel through which to give outward expression to their inner certainties and ideals. When this is possible, the inner certainties lend direction, power and purpose to the introverted feeling types. Lacking such an outlet, the certainties make these people more sensitive and vulnerable when relationships fall short of their ideals. The result may be a sense of impotence and inferiority, with loss of confidence and distrust in life.

The contrast between the real and the ideal weighs more heavily upon the ISFPs, who are more sharply aware of the actual state of affairs, than upon the INFPs, whose intuition suggests hopeful avenues of improvement. The ISFPs are also more likely to suffer a deficit of self-confidence. For both, the contrast offers a more acute problem than for other types..."


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Now just some general ISFP vs. INFP stuffs:

Source: Could you explain the differences between N and S...

Taken from Gifts Differing by Isabel Myers:


Sensing TypesIntuitive Types

  • Face life observantly, craving enjoyment.

  • Face life expectantly, craving inspiration.

  • Admit to consciousness every sense impression and are intensely aware of the external environment; they are observant at the expense of imagination.

  • Admit fully to consciousness only the sense impressions related to the current inspiration; they are imaginative at the expense of observation.

  • Are by nature pleasure lovers and consumers, loving life as it is and having a great capacity for enjoyment; they are in general contented.

  • Are by nature initiators, inventors, and promoters; having no taste for life as it is, and small capacity for living as it is, and small capacity for living in and enjoying the present, they are generally restless.

  • Desiring chiefly to possess and enjoy, and being very observant, they are imitative, wanting to have what other people have and to do what other people do, and are very dependent upon their physical surroundings.

  • Desiring chiefly opportunities and possibilities, and being very imaginative, they are inventive and original, quite indifferent to what other people have and do, and are very independent of their physical surrounds.

  • Dislike intensely any and every occupation that requires suppression of sensing, and are most reluctant to sacrifice present enjoyment to future gain or good.

  • Dislike intensely any and every occupation that necessitates sustained concentration on sensing, and are willing to sacrifice the present to a large extent since they neither live in it nor particularly enjoy it.

  • Prefer the art of living in the present to the satisfaction of enterprise and achievement.

  • Prefer the joy of enterprise and achievement and pay little or no attention to the art of living in the present.

  • Contribute to the public welfare by their support of every form of enjoyment and recreation, and every variety of comfort, luxury, and beauty.

  • Contribute to the public welfare by their inventiveness, initiative, enterprise, and powers of inspired leadership in every direction of human interest.

  • Are always in danger of being frivolous, unless balance is attained through development of a judging process.

  • Are always in danger of being fickle, changeable, and lacking in persistence, unless balance is attained through development of a judging process.

And also from that thread:

In the spoiler is my version of an "introduction to S and N," with some quotes from Myers and Keirsey.

 
I think one of the distinctions at the heart of S/N is the one between the so-called "real world" — where physical things (and "facts") exist and events happen in time (S-world) — and the abstract (immaterial and more "eternal") world of ideas, knowledge, scientific laws, the arts, etc. (N-world). Both N's and S's understand that both worlds exist (at least to some degree) and have their place. The S/N distinction has more to do with which world you find most valuable and meaningful — and focus most of your attention on. A hardcore S will tend to view N-world as relatively valueless except to the extent that it ultimately serves some kind of S-world purpose. A hardcore N, on the other hand, will tend to feel most at home in N-world, and view the physical world as more of a canvas or playground on which the laws of nature, science, psychology, beauty, etc. play themselves out. Just as an S may tend to only value ideas to the extent that they serve some practical end, an N is more likely to find the facts/details/etc. of the "real world" uninteresting to the extent that they don't embody, illustrate or otherwise tie into some more abstract pattern, principle or other aspect of N-world.

Hardcore S's tend to view themselves as practical, down-to-earth and common-sensical, and to roll their eyes at dreamy, impractical, pointy-headed intellectuals whose theories and "bright ideas" tend to blind them to the way things really work — while hardcore N's can be prone to view hardcore S's as deficiently non-intellectual (and perhaps somewhat dim) people who seem to often miss the forest for the trees and to be regrettably uninterested in the ideas/laws/patterns that make the world an interesting place.

Isabel Myers said N's "face life expectantly, craving inspiration," while S's "face life observantly, craving enjoyment." N's "admit fully to consciousness only the sense impressions related to the current inspiration; they are imaginative at the expense of observation"; whereas S's "admit to consciousness every sense impression and are intensely aware of the external environment; they are observant at the expense of imagination." She also said that N's "are willing to sacrifice the present to a large extent since they neither live in it nor particularly enjoy it"; whereas S's tend to be "reluctant to sacrifice present enjoyment to future gain or good."

Keirsey says that an N "lives in anticipation. Whatever is can be better, or different, and is seen only as a way station. Consequently, N's often experience a vague sense of dissatisfaction and restlessness. They seem somewhat bothered by reality, constantly looking toward possibilities of changing or improving the actual"; whereas an S "wants facts, trusts facts and remembers facts. He believes in experience and knows through experience (history), both personal and global. ... They focus on what actually happened rather than worrying too much about what might have been or what will be in the future."

Kroeger and Thuesen say N's "find the future and its possibilities more intriguing than frightening" and "are usually more excited about where they're going than where they are"; whereas S's "focus on 'what is' and find 'what can be' unsettling."

Keirsey also notes that an N child "may be difficult to handle. He always seems to have a core of 'being his own person' which adults sometimes find objectionable and offensive. ... He may seem opinionated to others, the NT in particular, and he often is very certain that he knows; at the same time, he cannot justify his convictions to others' satisfaction when questioned."

It's common to read, in MBTI sources, that an N is substantially more likely than an S to be bored and unhappy with a job that could fairly be described as doing the same thing over and over. An NT will enjoy putting some kind of system together, then want to move on to devising a new system, leaving it to the S "administrators" to actually use/apply the system, while the S administrators are more content to be the hands-on people applying the system day in and day out to deal with each day's new demands, and are happy to leave it to the N's to have to endure the brain damage involved in figuring out new systems, or improving old systems.

As Isabel Myers put it, N's "enjoy learning a new skill more than using it," while S's "enjoy using skills already learned more than learning new ones."

The MBTI Manual notes that people considered "highly creative" tend to be N's, with writers tending to be NFs, and mathematicians and scientists tending to be NTs. Kroeger and Thuesen note that elementary school teachers are mostly S's, high school teachers are fairly evenly split, and college professors tend to be N's.
 
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