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Hitler had to be a Fi, was just discussing it with my mother (graduate psychologist). Why would he be an INFJ Fe-Aux?
 

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Hitler had to be a Fi, was just discussing it with my mother (graduate psychologist). Why would he be an INFJ Fe-Aux?
Of course hatred is a feeling too and of course I can imagine NF or SF being overwhelmmed by feelings of anger and hatred and comitt passion crimes ..such as "finding your wife with another man and shoot them both in a angry/desperate impulse"
When it comes to "cold blooded burder" , cold crimes , then , what characterize them is not strong feelings at all but actualu the contrary ..it is is lack off feelings which charactrerise those criminals traits , especialy psychopaths , psychopathy is diagnosed by lack of empathy , ...therefore LACK OF FEELINGS .That cannot be compatible with NF types but with NT .

Individuals such psychopaths , cold blooded murderers such as HITHLER are intelligent , have a plan, build a strategy to achieve it and donnot consider people of feelings ...totaly incompatible with NF , it is not about hatred but lack of feelings and empathy . Of course , those people suffer from mental disorder so I am not saying that they behaved that way because they were NTs . There is no type which is more likely to commit crimes but if we had to associate a type of crime with a personnality type, NF will be associated with impulsive Hot blooded crimes resulting of uncontrollable , explosive emotions and NT will be associated with cold blooded crimes with impartial purpouse , involving no feelings ... As a forensic psychologist , I am definetely interested by this topic

Fotunetely most individuals of any type are sane and therefore will not comitt murder .
 

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Hitler had to be a Fi, was just discussing it with my mother (graduate psychologist). Why would he be an INFJ Fe-Aux?
It seems to me Ni would be more likely than Ne, (if N at all). That would consequently make him Fe. (if F at all). Because of the convergent character of Ni, it is more 'judging' by nature.

"Ne is more divergent and expansive in nature than its introverted cousin, Ni. NPs feel compelled to outwardly explore all the options and possibilities, making it difficult for them to draw firm conclusions or make confident decisions. The divergent nature of Ne explains why NPs often seem random, distractible, quirky, or flighty."

"Unlike Ne, which expands the number of options or possibilities, Ni tends to work more convergently, producing a more singular and comprehensive vision or solution. The convergent capacities of Ni provides NJs a greater sense of confidence and conviction in moving forward, contributing to their effectiveness as theorists, leaders, problem solvers, and advisers. INJs often think by way of images rather than words. Their intuitions may manifest as gut feelings, hunches, symbols, dreams, or imagery. Because Ni does much of its work subconsciously, it is sometimes perceived as having a certain magical or prophetic quality. "


As far as Fe/Fi Aux is concerned,

"Fe plays a prominent role in attuning to and empathizing with others’ emotions. It allows FJs to recreate another’s emotion state within themselves, allowing them to literally feel what the other person is feeling. FJs also work to meet others’ needs and to maintain harmony in the external environment. "

"Rather than focusing on general morale or interpersonal harmony, Fi is inspired to help specific individuals in need."


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Edit: these are all of course rather positive descriptions, and I don't mean to make any positive judgements on Hitler, and neither any associations of INJs with him. I'm sure there are horrible examples to find for any type.
 

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Of course hatred is a feeling too and of course I can imagine NF or SF being overwhelmmed by feelings of anger and hatred and comitt passion crimes ..such as "finding your wife with another man and shoot them both in a angry/desperate impulse"
When it comes to "cold blooded burder" , cold crimes , then , what characterize them is not strong feelings at all but actualu the contrary ..it is is lack off feelings which charactrerise those criminals traits , especialy psychopaths , psychopathy is diagnosed by lack of empathy , ...therefore LACK OF FEELINGS .That cannot be compatible with NF types but with NT .

Individuals such psychopaths , cold blooded murderers such as HITHLER are intelligent , have a plan, build a strategy to achieve it and donnot consider people of feelings ...totaly incompatible with NF , it is not about hatred but lack of feelings and empathy . Of course , those people suffer from mental disorder so I am not saying that they behaved that way because they were NTs . There is no type which is more likely to commit crimes but if we had to associate a type of crime with a personnality type, NF will be associated with impulsive Hot blooded crimes resulting of uncontrollable , explosive emotions and NT will be associated with cold blooded crimes with impartial purpouse , involving no feelings ... As a forensic psychologist , I am definetely interested by this topic

Fotunetely most individuals of any type are sane and therefore will not comitt murder .
Then perhaps you are not well informed on a historical level. How do you explain his immense popularity then? He exploited the fact that many Germans felt humiliated by the peace treaty after WWI. And by the way, he didn't say how the Endlösung should be executed. For that he got his engineers and thinkers.

And yes, Russia was his downfall, because he overruled the advise given by his staff. He himself wasn't such a brilliant strategist.
 

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I fail to see how what you are saying contradicts or is relevant to what I am saying ...Hithler was defenetely a talented public speaker to the masses and knew how to motivate ... but that does not mean that he had empathy ... I did not say that he was a brilliant strategist but a strategist indeed and a cold blooded strategicall killer , he had no feelings of empathy , all that mattered to him was to achieve his plan... My bet would be that Hithler personnality type was an ENTJ . A very insane psychopathic megalomeniac ENTJ . Now , I am not saying that regular ENTJ are cold blooded killers with no feelings either . But from what we know of the character /personnality , he could not be a NF . NF are more likely to be hot blooded killers types .

I totally agree with the hisorical facts you are mentionning and indded , although , I love history, I do still need to lean on this part of history , good reminded but I was only giving my opinion on the character and personnality types

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Then perhaps you are not well informed on a historical level. How do you explain his immense popularity then? He exploited the fact that many Germans felt humiliated by the peace treaty after WWI. And by the way, he didn't say how the Endlösung should be executed. For that he got his engineers and thinkers.

And yes, Russia was his downfall, because he overruled the advise given by his staff. He himself wasn't such a brilliant strategist.
 

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I fail to see how what you are saying contradicts or is relevant to what I am saying ...Hithler was defenetely a talented public speaker to the masses and knew how to motivate ... but that does not mean that he had empathy ... I did not say that he was a brilliant strategist but a strategist indeed and a cold blooded strategicall killer , he had no feelings of empathy , all that mattered to him was to achieve his plan... My bet would be that Hithler personnality type was an ENTJ . A very insane psychopathic megalomeniac ENTJ . Now , I am not saying that regular ENTJ are cold blooded killers with no feelings either . But from what we know of the character /personnality , he could not be a NF . NF are more likely to be hot blooded killers types .

I totally agree with the hisorical facts you are mentionning and indded , although , I love history, I do still need to lean on this part of history , good reminded but I was only giving my opinion on the character and personnality types

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His rhetoric is all about values, mythology (historic destiny of the German people), "Volksgemeinschaft", "Hitler-Jugend", etc.

He was a vegetarian by the way. Not every Feeler is a vegetarian. How do you explain that lack of empathy?
 

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right , good points . Indeed , he had strong values but when looking at the values , there were hightly competitive values rather than cooperative values , NF values are usualy values wich connect people but then you could say that , indeed , his values connected the germans together .. , that said , I am not saying that all NF s are marxist , as an NF, my political values are rather liberal but having such extreme ant-social values , seems in contradiction with what I know of NF s characteristics , but good point , it does not reflect traditionnal NF values but values still and he was somewhat idealistic , ok , I am on board with you , he might be an NF however his preferrence for decision making may still have been "facts " but he used values and emotions in his speech perhaps because he knew that this type of speech inspire was most powerfull at influencing people ....the issue , I have with him being an "NF" remains "lack of empathy" ,From the documentaries I have watched describing the character , they were picturing him as someone with no empathy , no humanity towards the jews, homosexual etc that he felt no empathy towards thier faith and treatments, also, in his "romantic" relati. onships, he was presented as a character with no "feelings" , no empathy again , very "cold" and practical ...according to this programme , I did think that he presented "psychopathic" characteristics , lack of empathy being the main characteristics of psychopathy ..but , of course , I was basing my analysis of the character on less informations than you so I trust your wider knowledge on the topic ..I am reconsidering my judgement indeed . He certainly suffered from a mental ilness which does make it more difficult to establish his inherent personnality type .
His rhetoric is all about values, mythology (historic destiny of the German people), "Volksgemeinschaft", "Hitler-Jugend", etc.

He was a vegetarian by the way. Not every Feeler is a vegetarian. How do you explain that lack of empathy?
 

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right , good points . Indeed , he had strong values but when looking at the values , there were hightly competitive values rather than cooperative values , NF values are usualy values wich connect people but , indeed , his values connected the germans together .. good point , it does not reflect traditionnal NF values but values still and he was "idealistic" , ok , I am on board with you , he might be an NF however his preferrence for decision making may still have been "facts " but he used values and emotions in his speech perhaps because he knew that this type of speech was most powerfull at influencing people ....the issue , I have with him being an "NF" remains "lack of empathy" ,From the documentaries I have watched describing the character , they were picturing him as someone with no empathy , no humanity towards the jews, homosexual etc that he felt no empathy towards their treatments, also, in his relationships, he was presented as a character with no "feelings" , no empathy again , uncapable of love very "cold" and practical ...according to this programme , I did think that he presented "psychopathic" characteristics , lack of empathy being the main characteristics of psychopathy ..but , of course , I was basing my analysis of the character on less informations than you so I trust your wider knowledge on the topic ..I am reconsidering my judgement indeed , your arguments are significant . He certainly suffered from a mental ilness which does make it more difficult to establish his inherent personnality type . Because of him being described by his "women" and "friends" as lacking feelings and empathy , I perceived him rather as an "NT" gonne totally mad but now I am puzzled and tend to think like you ..if you had asked me about Henri VIII, then no doubt , Henri VIII was a total hot blooded, impulsive NF gone Bordelinne personnality disorder ..but Hithler , am still in doubt , if his mental illnesses tend towards Neurosis then most probably NF, if he tended towards psychopathy then most probably NT .
 

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He was a tortured artist who got pissed at the world, motivated his nation with sheer charisma and pathos to go kill someone.
 

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