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How many of you can't deal with criticism/insults/put downs very well.
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I wanted to encourage anyone who has a problem with criticism and has considered it, to go into a performing major. There, you will even have classes where you are critiqued by peers over and over. You get immune. And you learn to be open to critiques, use the ones you agree with, and leave the rest.

Another thing to do is to higher yourself a completely honest and hardcore coach in something. I've paid for incredibly honest coaches both in singing and for running.

Let me tell you, it does wonder to work with "drill sergeants". For 4 years, I learned to continue singing while someone shouted in my face "I wouldn't hire you!" "What the hell kind of sound is that?" "That's half-assed!" And if I were to cry or break down from it, I would hear "I don't think you are a singer. You're too emotional. Find something else to do. Singing takes guts. You need BALLS!"

Matter of fact, I think my voice coach was tougher than any of my running coaches. It's easier to get critiques when you think you need help or aren't very good at something. But it's harder to receive them when you think you know everything and have been sheltering yourself in the safety net of compliments all your life.

Yeah, I actually have paid good money for this kind of abuse. It's tough, but it has made me stronger mentally. And my poor students.... I need to keep tissue by the piano all the time. Because some at first mistakingly believe that they are paying me to tell them that they are good. But I know when I'm tough on them, I am doing them a favor- I'm not giving up on them.

Just my 2 cents worth.

And insults are lame. There are merely a reflection of a person's lack of ability to communicate. They really say more about the bearer than the receiver.
I would never do a performing major. They usually result in you waiting tables. I seriously thought about majoring in acting. However, I might take an acting class though, just because you said this and that it might get you over sensitivity. Usually, fear and self doubt is a defeater for me, and I do bad with anyone whom constantly criticizes or yells at me. I like to play pool a lot with some ESTP's and they'll bust your balls the entire time. It's helped me to somewhat get over criticism. I couldn't have someone yelling at me all the time though or I would seriously fight with them. This may be a symptom of my PTSD.

Me. I am impossible to insult. Try me.
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Hey, I never claimed to be good with my Pness. Perhaps I could learn to be more careful with it. :unsure:

See there? ^^^ I just took it like a man. *runs away to have herself a good cry*

Ikr? An ESTP just busted my Pness.:crazy:

Maybe some sort of a boot camp? The army? Wouldn't it be impossible to fight them back?

And just to let you know, no matter how hard my teacher was on my technique, she has always respected me as an individual. My running coaches do this as well. I know they are just trying to help me run better. But I think this is key in taking criticism. Critiques on technique or form should be separated from judgement of the person.

And don't use your PTSD to excuse your bad behavior, young man. Don't you know that is what our ADHD diagnosis is for? (It gives it a lighter tone whilst maintaining an excusable edge :wink:)

P.S. You got somethin against waiting tables? I've paid many a bills doing my time as a table top executive. It's something you can also do while you're in college :wink:
The PTSD makes me more sensitive to confrontation. Anyway, I think that when I get more money though, I want to take up a hardcore martial arts class. Nothing will desensitize you to fighting, more than fighting itself. I still want to take up an acting class as well, but I'm not sure that I'd actually want to be an actor because that is a very hard career field to make any money in
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Hey, I never claimed to be good with my Pness. Perhaps I could learn to be more careful with it. :unsure:

See there? ^^^ I just took it like a man. *runs away to have herself a good cry*

Ikr? An ESTP just busted my Pness.:crazy:

Maybe some sort of a boot camp? The army? Wouldn't it be impossible to fight them back?

And just to let you know, no matter how hard my teacher was on my technique, she has always respected me as an individual. My running coaches do this as well. I know they are just trying to help me run better. But I think this is key in taking criticism. Critiques on technique or form should be separated from judgement of the person.

And don't use your PTSD to excuse your bad behavior, young man. Don't you know that is what our ADHD diagnosis is for? (It gives it a lighter tone whilst maintaining an excusable edge :wink:)

P.S. You got somethin against waiting tables? I've paid many a bills doing my time as a table top executive. It's something you can also do while you're in college :wink:
No, I can't join the army because I have some physical and mental conditions. Also, I would wait tables when paying my way through college but many performance majors often wind up moving to California and in hopes of being the next big star and wind up waiting tables. Acting is a really lousy major unless you've really got what it takes. Many say because of my real life entertaining personality that I should be an actor. I might take up a couple acting classes, but it's just too damn hard to break into to major in. As I said before though, I do plan on taking up a martial art though. I'm sure that will get me used to the idea of constant fighting.
Nate, aren't you already used to constant fighting?

Does PTSD keep us out of the army? :shocked:

Anyway, do want you want in college. I was a performance major and I now also teach at a university. You could also go that route while you perform.

And yeah, if you suck at acting PLEASE stay out of the profession. Some of us who have paid good money to refine our art, really hate that.
Most say I'd be good at acting? I really don't know how I'd be at it. Also, how the hell are you; an aerobics instructor, own your own business, and teach at a University all at the same time? When the fuck do you sleep woman?
I find the idea of "sleep" to be relative. It depends on what you mean by that. :unsure:

I'm also about to perform too. But I will take a bitty break from aerobics while I do that. I made my life so that if I have to take time off to perform I can do that.

I dunno. Would you like me to help design your life? I keep offering but you're so damn stubborn. :laughing:
lol why the hell do other ENFP's always want to help you design your life and complete your life goals. I was just having a conversation with an ENFP room mate of mine just last night on this same subject.
Because we live for it and it's fun. We are good at it too. :proud:

I'll design your life if you design mine? :laughing:
I guess that they don't call the ENFP "The mentor" for nothing. Your life already seems very well designed. You seem to be like the Martha Stewart of Life crafting.
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LOL I love how questions about NF oversensitivity always attracts T's. Presumably to show off how relatively 'tuff' they are. ;-p

My turn. No pansiness here. Why would people cry at criticism during lessons? That's the whole point of having a coach! Some do that screamo seargant thing, but that's just their style.
You wouldn't understand it unless you were an NF. It's like me asking you why you probably have a hard time expressing your emotions and feelings.
Will you sing for me? And if so, how soon? Modern technology allows us to arrange this very easily.

Have you ever had a voice lesson? If you haven't, why not?
I used to sing in chorus a long while back, I'm not too bad actually.
Nate, aren't you already used to constant fighting?

Does PTSD keep us out of the army? :shocked:

Anyway, do want you want in college. I was a performance major and I now also teach at a university. You could also go that route while you perform.

And yeah, if you suck at acting PLEASE stay out of the profession. Some of us who have paid good money to refine our art, really hate that.
Yes, I am used to constant fighting. However, diplomatic arguing is a weak point. Fighting for me usually consists of violence and/or exclamations such as "Fuck you!", "Burn in hell!", or "I never want to see your ass again!"

My main problem is outspokenness. I am very outspoken and I never know when I am taking too far or when I just need to STFU. I wish that I had my own verbal referee.

Perfect example:

I was in a condensed area with me, an ESTP lady friend of mine, and some type of Fe user. Well, a couple of people came in our area and I'm not sure which one of them smelled terrible, but then the ESTP woman said, "Damn it smells like shit over here". I then exclaimed, "Yeah, it smells like some unchanged cat litter (which it did)". Anyway, we all thought the area smelled bad because of a particular dude that was sitting there. The Fe user woman said, "Don't say that, that's terrible. You are a bad person". I then didn't know whether it was terrible or not to say such a thing because I did not know which person that it was that smelled terrible. After all, I wasn't specifically targeting out anyone. I mean, if I watched "every single" thing that I said then I'd be quiet constantly and under constant anxiety. I speak my mind in order to fight anxiety if that makes any sense at all.
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I've been very desensitized to insults. I routinely get called a "piece of shit" by my brother. I routinely get physically and emotionally abused by my brother. I have to pretend to love my brother. If I fight back, I get beaten three times as hard and then he tries to make me feel like I'm the reason he has to be so cruel to me.

I don't get any respect from him. He barely listens to our parents; taking advantage of them and frequently driving my INFJ dad to near insanity. I get baby talked down to because he thinks I'm on the level of a 10 year old at my best. He thinks I'm weak. I'm the smallest and weakest one in the family. He's the biggest and strongest one in the family. He could beat up dad, who is 6'2" and 200 pounds and works out routinely. He expects me to give him everything he wants because I'm weaker and younger than he is. This has been going on for about as long as I can remember. Fighting back makes it worse. I can't leave. Adults don't do shit. They tell you to tell them when he does stuff, but you do and they don't do anything about it. If I can't get my brother to stop his abuse, I'm going to put him in the hospital.
lol, is your brother an ESTP?
^ISTJ, but I suspect ISFJ because he gets so violently emotional and makes all his decisions regard others based on how he feels at the moment.
Are you sure ISFJ? That sounds more like an SP thing to me.
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