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Are there any INTJ's here that don't like or are not good at Math and not from a lack of trying?

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Are there any INTJ's here that don't like or are not good at Math and not from a lack of trying?

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Let's assume there are.Are there any INTJ's here that don't like or are not good at Math and not from a lack of trying?

Why do you ask?

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I fail to see how any rational person would call that useless.

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General curiosityLet's assume there are.

Why do you ask?

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The sciences of life were what attracted me... physics and chemistry were too mathy. I did them because I had to.

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Our natural learning comes from induction. You start with a specific experience or case, and you generalize from that, making inferences about other things based on the one thing. That's intuitive, it's how you learned to piss into a toilet, how to drink from a cup, how to sit up and crawl, etc. Pretty much, it forms the basis of how you learned almost everything you know.

Deduction, which is the essence of mathematics, is the total opposite and it requires you to develop it like a muscle. It doesn't come naturally or easily, and you have to immerse yourself in it before it grows on you.

Deduction is taking a very abstract generalization - like a language, a set of symbols, logic, or - in this case, mathematical notation - and inferring a specific case from that. You're starting from the unspecific and arriving at something specific, taking something that has no

It's really important to get good at this. Being able to generalize from specific examples is natural, but being able to arrive at a specific conclusion from a set of general principles is the essence of theory and experimentation - the very foundation of science.

Once you get into theoretical science, you will be looking at a particular case study of something, attempting to derive a generalization from it - something that applies in other contexts - and then seeing if it does in fact apply to other specific cases. If it does, then we can use the generalization to deduce all kinds of other things, which leads to a deeper understanding of nature. We can actually go beyond the specific case at that point and apply the general principle that we've uncovered to all kinds of situations.

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It useless because most of us won't be going into the field of math. Ill be working on computer systems, not programming, for the rest of my life. I won't need trig, calc, or any of that shit. So yes to me it is worthless, to others it isn't.

I fail to see how any rational person would call that useless.

@OP I was in AP or whatever you'd call it elementary school for math. We had one day where we spelled words on a calculator. I just spelled curse words and got bored and they kicked me out. Now, if I try to do it I can and I'll be good I just don't have an interest in it. I think it's too specific and that's the same reason I don't want to do programming for the rest of my life. I get A's in all my programming classes, but it doesn't mean I want to do it for the rest of my life. I'm very comfortable in a work environment after awhile and I want to manage people eventually. I'm different than you people, figured you'd understand.

I believe you have mistaken a bit. The application of math itself might not be important to your career field, it is actually doing the math problems and thinking in the abstract which will help you in other fields. That is why there are standard levels of math that most students must go through. Math as a career field is uninteresting to me, but the ways of thinking it taught me are CERTAINLY helpful in all kinds of things. I wish there were more requirements for philosophy as well, but math is seen as important to a wider variety of business/engineering/scientific applications so it is deemed more necessary. It is without a doubt more practical, even if it doesn't help you figure out life. It is a bit of rewiring of your brain, it has helped in forming patterns for literature/philosophy for me for instance.

That being said, yes, I don't necessarily ENJOY doing rote math problems, but I did them anyway. I took through Calc 3 in college and first studied CS. I quit Mu Alpha Theta in high school b/c it was just uninteresting to me.

I also understand your uninterest, I am the same way and have moved on from that. If you want to manage programmers or engineers, they will have much more respect for you if you can actually understand what they are doing. Much better than some MBA that takes over an engineering or IT department with knowledge of only business and economics.

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... I seriously hope you are trolling.It useless because most of us won't be going into the field of math.

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Grad student by day... wannabe mathematician by night!... I seriously hope you are trolling.

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Just about every field uses math. Like some people have to count how many pencils are needed at the DMV, or how many copies one must print. Everything involves math.

Eager young minds...Grad student by day... wannabe mathematician by night!

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