hmmm.... i'm curious to know what the local INTP section used to look like. was it very different?You've mostly focused on the enneagram aspects rather than the MBTI, which I think only answers half of your original question.
The hard part though, based on my last 20 minutes or so of lurking various parts of the forum, is going to be finding undeniably type 5 INTPs who haven't already left this place for greener pastures. Each and every time I found someone that screamed E5 as I skimmed the various sections where they are wont to take part, they turned out to be INTJ.* The INTP 5s I used to know here have apparently left or been forced to leave so. . . best of luck.:wink:
*Which actually explains one hell of a lot to me about the local INTP section.
Perhaps Azrael could offer some insight.
I went through that post, and I still can't decide 5 v 9! I have traits of both, but right when I start thinking 9 is probably correct, some of the 9 traits don't apply either!Enneagram is about your motives. What drives you to do the things you do. MBTI has more to do with how you parse information and deal with the world around you. If you're not sure which you are, I'd suggest reading this post. I don't feel like reposting and it would appear to be slightly off topic if i did.
Type nines seem to be be very in-touch with their feelings, and as a result, the feelings of others also(Fi).Hello everyone!
I was just curious on how differences in the Enneagram Types affect INTP behavior, attitude, etc especially between Type 5 and Type 9 (But other type differences within INTP as well).
unleashthehounds would have liked it better.hmmm.... i'm curious to know what the local INTP section used to look like. was it very different?
This isn't really the place, but if you send me a pm, I'll see what I can do to help you sort it out properly.I went through that post, and I still can't decide 5 v 9! I have traits of both, but right when I start thinking 9 is probably correct, some of the 9 traits don't apply either!
i think i get it now, actually. :happy:I don't know, I thought that was rather cryptic too
It first occurred to me when I saw this and then took note of his campaign to create and encourage more substantial and thought provoking threads around here. You know, as opposed to something about spices.unleash, what does he mean???!?!! dammit, now you've got me all squirmy and fidgety because i want to know...
*splutters* HEY! i was just being accommodating. :dry: *indignant*
This took me longer to find than I expected. Hopefully it'll help.what are the negative 9 issues?
Level 1 (At Their Best): Become self-possessed, feeling autonomous and fulfilled: have great equanimity and contentment because they are present to themselves. Paradoxically, at one with self, and thus able to form more profound relationships. Intensely alive, fully connected to self and others.
Level 2: Deeply receptive, accepting, unselfconscious, emotionally stable and serene. Trusting of self and others, at ease with self and life, innocent and simple. Patient, unpretentious, good-natured, genuinely nice people.
Level 3: Optimistic, reassuring, supportive: have a healing and calming influence—harmonizing groups, bringing people together: a good mediator, synthesizer, and communicator.
Level 4: Fear conflicts, so become self-effacing and accommodating, idealizing others and "going along" with their wishes, saying "yes" to things they do not really want to do. Fall into conventional roles and expectations. Use philosophies and stock sayings to deflect others.
Level 5: Active, but disengaged, unreflective, and inattentive. Do not want to be affected, so become unresponsive and complacent, walking away from problems, and "sweeping them under the rug." Thinking becomes hazy and ruminative, mostly comforting fantasies, as they begin to "tune out" reality, becoming oblivious. Emotionally indolent, unwillingness to exert self or to focus on problems: indifference.
Level 6: Begin to minimize problems, to appease others and to have "peace at any price." Stubborn, fatalistic, and resigned, as if nothing could be done to change anything. Into wishful thinking, and magical solutions. Others frustrated and angry by their procrastination and unresponsiveness.
Level 7: Can be highly repressed, undeveloped, and ineffectual. Feel incapable of facing problems: become obstinate, dissociating self from all conflicts. Neglectful and dangerous to others.
Level 8: Wanting to block out of awareness anything that could affect, them, they dissociate so much that they eventually cannot function: numb, depersonalized.
Level 9: They finally become severely disoriented and catatonic, abandoning themselves, turning into shattered shells. Multiple personalities possible. Generally corresponds to the Schizoid and Dependent personality disorders.
Don't worry, I still like you better than most people.*splutters* HEY! i was just being accommodating. :dry: *indignant*
it's odd, the bad stuff applies to me way more than the good... starting from levels 4/5 through 9--the lower down the list i go, the more the descriptions fit...This took me longer to find than I expected. Hopefully it'll help.
well, thanks for deigning to do so, your highness. :tongue:Don't worry, I still like you better than most people.