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Quick question. Is it possible for an unhealthy extrovert to behave like an introvert? For example, avoiding social contact, uncommunicative or secrative, prefering to solve problems alone rather than ask for help, spacing out or daydreaming INFP style? I mean habitually and for prolonged periods of time?

Side question, how does it feel to an extrovert when you must remain alone for too long, no communication at all, virtual or real life. How long does it take for that feeling to kick in?
 

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Yes, I am an extrovert with introvert tendencies due to social anxiety in where I can find it hard at times to talk to people around me or communicate. Regardless I would still qualify as an extrovert.
 

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Quick question. Is it possible for an unhealthy extrovert to behave like an introvert? For example, avoiding social contact, uncommunicative or secrative, prefering to solve problems alone rather than ask for help, spacing out or daydreaming INFP style? I mean habitually and for prolonged periods of time?
Yes, but I never thought this made me "unhealthy" until other people started telling me that, it is just something I had grown accustomed to.

Side question, how does it feel to an extrovert when you must remain alone for too long, no communication at all, virtual or real life. How long does it take for that feeling to kick in?
Terrible. Within a day, easily. It usually stars a lengthy state of "stasis" or "imbalance" that is impossible to shake on your own, cannot recommend.
 

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Anything is possible if you believe in the heart of the cards.

Yes, I think so. Introversion and extroversion is more of a sliding scale thing than "you are either a shut in or someone who can't stay home more than five minutes at a time". There is a lot more in play than leading with an introverted (Ni, Si, Fi, Ti) or extroverted (Ne, Se, Fe, Te) function. The four functions working together, personal experiences (including possible traumas), personality, etc.

Of course, I would say it is unlikely that you will find, say, an INTJ remotely as extroverted and outgoing as an actual extroverted type, but yeah... a sliding scale or something.
 

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Yes, I'm on the autism spectrum and used to have social anxiety as a result, then circumstances lead to depression as a teenager, and the combination made me convinced I was an introvert for a long time, as well as a Feeler. Now I have the opposite problem, once I start talking I can't shut up and let other people have a go. :p
 
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Yes, I'm on the autism spectrum and used to have social anxiety as a result, then circumstances lead to depression as a teenager, and the combination made me convinced I was an introvert for a long time, as well as a Feeler. Now I have the opposite problem, once I start talking I can't shut up and let other people have a go. :p
Therefore complusiverambler. I get it. =p
 

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Terrible. Within a day, easily. It usually stars a lengthy state of "stasis" or "imbalance" that is impossible to shake on your own, cannot recommend.
Would you descrive it as lethargic, no motivation or the oposite where you feel compeled to seek out contact.
 

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I feel very awkward around people that I can't connect very well with. Groups of people that I just don't have much in common, so I can't sustain a meaningful conversation about any topic. With neither of us being well-read on the same topics, it turns into an one-sided conversation where one person explains things and the other just nods and listens.

Then they'll have conversations among themselves about stuff I don't understand or care about, in which case I'll just say nothing since I have nothing to say. But I appreciate the good mood they're putting on, if that makes sense. Just having people doing their thing next to me gives comfort.
 

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I don't know if I'm an introvert or an extrovert, but I was recently suggested to be an ambivert, or maybe an extrovert with social anxiety (which I definitely do have).

I am way too self-conscious of everything I do, and I feel anxious in a new social setting, being way too cautious of whether I look "good enough", of what opinions others could have of me, of what first impressions I give, of what limitations I have in my behavior and speech to uphold a "good image". My anxiety and insecurities are the reason why I put so much focus on constructing a convincing front of elegance, confidence, manners, "mysticism", calmness, silence, coldness.

But as soon as I feel like I am in control, as soon as I know what to expect from my social environment, what are my limits and what exactly is my image as perceived by others, I will feel strongly compelled to dive into very extroverted behavior, take the battle flag, put on the red cape, ride the horse into battle. Which is why I had always felt like I have a suppressed extrovert inside me. I feel passionate about my extroversion, but I struggle to overcome the obstacles/barriers that keep me in introversion.
 

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I don't know if I'm an introvert or an extrovert, but I was recently suggested to be an ambivert, or maybe an extrovert with social anxiety (which I definitely do have).

I am way too self-conscious of everything I do, and I feel anxious in a new social setting, being way too cautious of whether I look "good enough", of what opinions others could have of me, of what first impressions I give, of what limitations I have in my behavior and speech to uphold a "good image". My anxiety and insecurities are the reason why I put so much focus on constructing a convincing front of elegance, confidence, manners, "mysticism", calmness, silence, coldness.

But as soon as I feel like I am in control, as soon as I know what to expect from my social environment, what are my limits and what exactly is my image as perceived by others, I will feel strongly compelled to dive into very extroverted behavior, take the battle flag, put on the red cape, ride the horse into battle. Which is why I had always felt like I have a suppressed extrovert inside me. I feel passionate about my extroversion, but I struggle to overcome the obstacles/barriers that keep me in introversion.
This sounds like you have Fe (extraverted feelinging)as part of your cognitive functions stack.
 

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Quick question. Is it possible for an unhealthy extrovert to behave like an introvert? For example, avoiding social contact, uncommunicative or secrative, prefering to solve problems alone rather than ask for help, spacing out or daydreaming INFP style? I mean habitually and for prolonged periods of time?

Side question, how does it feel to an extrovert when you must remain alone for too long, no communication at all, virtual or real life. How long does it take for that feeling to kick in?
Of course. And the Extrovert doesn't even have to be unhealthy.

Being Extroverted has much less to do with how many people like like to be around for how long and more about your relationship with the world as a whole outside of yourself. Do you internalize everything? Or are you engaged with the external world? Is your focus objective (Extroverted) instead of subjective (Introverted)? Do you focus more on categorizing/defining, perceiving, and/or evaluating objectively the things outside of you instead of internalizing, focusing on what instead the object has given you? That is the difference between the Introverted and Extroverted focus in a nutshell.

Introverted and Extroverted according to Jung was what he called an attitude. It's more a way of how you think and where you direct your energy and focus than how many parties you're willing to go to. :)

Many Introverts I know look very expressive and outgoing once you get them talking about something they love. My INTP husband for example, if any brings up economics or philosophy would suddenly be incredibly engaging. He also says he always wishes he were better at interacting with people. The ISFJs I know tend to be quieter and more reserved, perhaps taking time to internalize more of the external situation, but still enjoy the presence of others when in the company of people.

Humans are very social creatures. We all need social interaction. That's why it's important to look at ones' focus and attitude towards the world as a whole instead of how much time we like spending with people. Every human being prefers being with people they are close to. Everyone prefers less small talk and having good conversation with a tighter knit group of people than a party of strangers. That's pretty normal. For this reason, many Extroverts end up mistakenly typing themselves as Introverts.
 

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This sounds like you have Fe (extraverted feelinging)as part of your cognitive functions stack.

That is because he is very likely an ISFJ.
Or it could be Ni/Se + Fi that imitates Fe tendencies.
Problem is that I score extremely high on Fi (compared to Fe), especially based on my beliefs, priorities, goals, assumptions about myself and the world. I'm "Fe" for as long as the subject is directly related to me, affects my security or my image. But as soon as I'm taken out of the equation, I don't care if the whole world burns.

I like talking to people, but I always talk about myself, about my interests, about my goals/needs. I tend to monologue about "me, me, me", and occasionally, maybe once a year, I realize I should've asked how that person's doing. My societal/political/cultural/religious opinions aren't "adaptive" to my environment in any way. I'm more often the "black sheep" when it comes to my views about anything. I tend to cause conflict and arguing more often than I create harmony and peace. In fact, I'm known to be the main instigator of conflict in most environments (it's only a matter of time before something explodes, and I'll be the one lighting the fuse).
Does this sound like Fe?
 

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This of course would more so relate to the repressed function of any given extroverted type.

Can an extroverted person act introverted in times of stress or depression? Yes, of course. It is not always the case and every person handles stress a bit differently, even those of the same type.

For example ExxP types are a bit more likely to withdraw in times of dire stress. An ExFJ is far less likely to withdraw from people than an ExTJ. An ExFJ would most likely look to their immediate care group. Friends, family, etc. An ExTJ would most likely try to overly confront whatever challenge they are facing by going at it head on, ignoring others or their feelings in some cases.

When an ExxJ undergoes stress they usually begin to doubt their own capabilities. When my partner(ENFJ) gets upset or messes something up she is quick to resort to undermining her own intelligence. She'll take up an "I can't" attitude. Fe turns to Ti and when The untrained Ti has no answer panic and stress set in. When an ExTJ is unable to maintain their desired control they may resort to Fi, withdrawing into their own struggles(sometimes caused by inner turmoil over some decision made) or become stubborn with a "It's just the way I am" attitude.

ExxP switch from a positive perceiving function to an untrained one. Possibilities, opportunities, perceivied scenarios all become twisted.

An ENxP could potentially become extremely stressed with their current situation, seeking change, the ability to be free of solid decisions that would restrain them in any way. An ESxP might might worry infinitly about a scenario they misread the underlying subtleties of(Is he mad at me? He must be. So and so doesn't like me I just know it(meanwhile so and so has no real thoughts towards this person)). ExxPs are more likely to withdraw and start overthinking negative thoughts.

All and all it's a bit more complex than "Can Exxx's be introverted when stressed", but the answer is yes.

Also important to note that E and I relate more so to direction of expressed energy than they do to any social meanings of the words.
(I have an old lesson written on the topic somewhere on this site haha).
 

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An ExTJ would most likely try to overly confront whatever challenge they are facing by going at it head on, ignoring others or their feelings in some cases.

When an ExTJ is unable to maintain their desired control they may resort to Fi, withdrawing into their own struggles (sometimes caused by inner turmoil over some decision made) or become stubborn with a "It's just the way I am" attitude.
Sounds oddly familiar. Thanks for the informative post.
 

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Of course. And the Extrovert doesn't even have to be unhealthy.

Being Extroverted has much less to do with how many people like like to be around for how long and more about your relationship with the world as a whole outside of yourself. Do you internalize everything? Or are you engaged with the external world? Is your focus objective (Extroverted) instead of subjective (Introverted)? Do you focus more on categorizing/defining, perceiving, and/or evaluating objectively the things outside of you instead of internalizing, focusing on what instead the object has given you? That is the difference between the Introverted and Extroverted focus in a nutshell.

Introverted and Extroverted according to Jung was what he called an attitude. It's more a way of how you think and where you direct your energy and focus than how many parties you're willing to go to. :)

Many Introverts I know look very expressive and outgoing once you get them talking about something they love. My INTP husband for example, if any brings up economics or philosophy would suddenly be incredibly engaging. He also says he always wishes he were better at interacting with people. The ISFJs I know tend to be quieter and more reserved, perhaps taking time to internalize more of the external situation, but still enjoy the presence of others when in the company of people.

Humans are very social creatures. We all need social interaction. That's why it's important to look at ones' focus and attitude towards the world as a whole instead of how much time we like spending with people. Every human being prefers being with people they are close to. Everyone prefers less small talk and having good conversation with a tighter knit group of people than a party of strangers. That's pretty normal. For this reason, many Extroverts end up mistakenly typing themselves as Introverts.
Yes, ofcourse extrovert and introvert is not all about how many parties you go to. but in the context of this post, I was specificaly asking about their social attitude.

Part of the difference, as far as I understand it, is that extroverts seem to be much more comfortable with a higher level or external stimuli. So they can handle an environment where there is more noise, more lights, more activity and information coming from every direction. Like a party for example. They seem to be better social juglers. Where as an introverts would find all of this chaotic. If they are comfortable in the environment then they can let themselves go and converse freely, but they will become exhaused much faster than extroverts because they have to filter all of this information and it can leave you feeling like you dont know in wich diretion to look, or wich comment to reply to first, or like everything is moving too quickly for you to jump in and participate.

I know as an introvert, even though I need to and enjoy socialising, I find these interactions to be rich in information, too much stimulus, so I will need to reatreat somewhere quiet and dark where I can process all the info received. Because if i dont, i will very literay become exhauseted, like there is not enough sleep in the world that can recharge my battery.

So i was wondering wether its the reverse for extroverts. Like they would feel this way if they undersocialised rather than over socialised?
 

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Yes, ofcourse extrovert and introvert is not all about how many parties you go to. but in the context of this post, I was specificaly asking about their social attitude.

Part of the difference, as far as I understand it, is that extroverts seem to be much more comfortable with a higher level or external stimuli. So they can handle an environment where there is more noise, more lights, more activity and information coming from every direction. Like a party for example. They seem to be better social juglers. Where as an introverts would find all of this chaotic. If they are comfortable in the environment then they can let themselves go and converse freely, but they will become exhaused much faster than extroverts because they have to filter all of this information and it can leave you feeling like you dont know in wich diretion to look, or wich comment to reply to first, or like everything is moving too quickly for you to jump in and participate.

I know as an introvert, even though I need to and enjoy socialising, I find these interactions to be rich in information, too much stimulus, so I will need to reatreat somewhere quiet and dark where I can process all the info received. Because if i dont, i will very literay become exhauseted, like there is not enough sleep in the world that can recharge my battery.

So i was wondering wether its the reverse for extroverts. Like they would feel this way if they undersocialised rather than over socialised?
Honestly, I have a hard time with high-stimulus environments. I prefer interacting with people in more chill atmospheres. I don't go to high-stimulus parties. My INTP husband can take louder music than me in environments. My ears are pretty sensitive to stuff like that. I LOVE music, but I can't go to concerts easily. I prefer walking down a city street to that, just watching everyone around me pass by. I like coffee shops. I like softer and cozier atmospheres in general.
 

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I can relate to this. Some weeks I just want to lock myself in my room and listen to music and watch netflix for hours and hours. I know I'd rather be out doing things and living life, but I, the "energetic" esfp, can hate people too. Eventually though i get forced out of the house and realize what I've been missing. It's sorta like getting out of a rut in a way, except my rut is a horrible worldview and a hatred for everything with extreme worry.
 
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