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Intrusive thought - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
An intrusive thought is an unwelcome involuntary thought, image, or unpleasant idea that may become an obsession, is upsetting or distressing, and can feel difficult to manage or eliminate.[1] When such thoughts are associated with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), depression, body dysmorphic disorder (BDD), and sometimes attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), the thoughts may become paralyzing, anxiety-provoking, or persistent. Intrusive thoughts may also be associated with episodic memory, unwanted worries or memories from OCD,[2] posttraumatic stress disorder, other anxiety disorders, eating disorders, or psychosis.[3] Intrusive thoughts, urges, and images are of inappropriate things at inappropriate times, and they can be divided into three categories: "inappropriate aggressive thoughts, inappropriate sexual thoughts, or blasphemous religious thoughts".[4]
Though mentioned along side disorders, it is a common experience to many just on a lesser degree.
According to Baer, most people who suffer bad or unacceptable thoughts have not identified themselves as having OCD, because they may not have what they believe to be classic symptoms of OCD, such as handwashing. Yet, he says, epidemiological studies suggest that intrusive thoughts are the most common kind of OCD worldwide; if people in the United States with intrusive thoughts gathered, they would form the fourth-largest city in the US, following New York City and Chicago.[SUP][50][/SUP] A 2007 study found that 78% of a clinical sample of OCD patients had intrusive images.[SUP][3][/SUP]
What intrusive thoughts you got going on?

For me it tends to be violent, sometimes things like thoughts of stabbing someone with my steak knife, hitting them, crashing into oncoming traffic.
Though other times its thoughts of saying something rude, nasty, inappropriate.
 

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I have them all the time. Some days are ok, others are horrible. I won't say what some of them contain, but most are annoying and distracting, sometimes even disturbing.
 

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Hm, I used to have terribly bad intrusive thoughts, but I was unhealthy during those periods in my life.

Currently though, the only intrusive thought I really get is this immense desire to jump off some tall height whenever I'm near one.
 

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I went through nearly seven years of intense unwanted sexual thoughts. It got so bad that I started to plan how I would commit suicide. Some research on the internet about it (and being a form of OCD) plus a very helpful therapist eventually helped me more than I thought was possible. Just finding out that there are others that experience this was a huge relief. So, to anyone who gets this bad: There's still hope. You aren't alone.
 

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I used to get them badly as a result of my tourettes. I kept like thinking about going in front of cars and hurting myself even though I wasn't suicidal at all. It was pretty scary, but since it had happened most my life I just learned to deal with them. Luckily for me though, they went away once I learned to control my tics.
 
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I'm very impulsive but I never regret anything I do, so I wouldn't say my desires are 'intrusive'. When I was younger I got into a lot of trouble, but growing up I learnt to be more accountable and plan around getting what I want, so to speak.
 

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I do have OCD and ADHD. Those thoughts were commonplace during early childhood, they still occur but I have more control.
It was mostly sexual images and thoughts, that'd scare the fuck out of me not because they were scary but I was thinking 'What. The. Fuck. Is wrong with me?'
It also came in the form of religious stuff and random thoughts late at night, like 'what if there was a fire and I was still asleep?'
I'd often feel like I couldn't control my thoughts and have to repeat the same sentence or consciously ignore it constantly in order to make it better..
 
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Hm, I used to have terribly bad intrusive thoughts, but I was unhealthy during those periods in my life.

Currently though, the only intrusive thought I really get is this immense desire to jump off some tall height whenever I'm near one.

This, in different varients.. can be on a boat or whatever.
In my head I will be going overboard. I will sorta feel like fainting.. dieing..
... Like, if I went to the railing, id just tip over.. As if I am blind and dont see it (but that is kinda what I am doing.. closing my eyes, scared and such.. cant look)

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And yes, as others, violent thoughts both about others and self.


Tho, I have mostly come to handle them. The word "Handle" is kinda wrong actually is it not?, because what you do is just to let it pass you by. Tho, you will kinda wish you would fist fight these thoughts. Or maybe have someone punish me for these thoughts?, but id probably not like that.
I will say to myself, it just is thoughts, a feeling OR a sensation.

I had a period where I would experience something in my little finger (really not connected with myself am i?), and id be scared I was gay, and if I was gay id kill myself in some way. (You know, atleast around here people say that having a pointy little finger is gay).
Also If i felt something in my penis and had saliva at the same time, or the other way around. There would be gay thoughts, or bad thoughts about being bad for being turned on by a girl in a inappropriate time, etc.

So id spend alot of mental energy trying to banish this sensation/feeling/thought. But the more focused I was on it, the less I could avoid it ofcourse, and all I was trying was to rid my self.
It may sound really crazy, but id go thru this thing in my head, where id "Erase" or pack that up, and then send it away, Feeling that im thinking, kinda way.
Which I am not sure was all that helpful, or worked in anyway.
Because you cant erase your thoughts.. mind.
I had been reading about meditation at that point, and that was something I tried to incorperate. I think it was good, but I cant.. like.. send myself away.

In more recent time, I will just stay with it for a momment. .. or rather pause.. ground myself.. automaticly think about something else?.

Also I have read that nearly everyone, if not all, has had some gay thoughts in their lifetime, etc. But has just come to live with it.
Not really thinking about it. Or as many, have become rather homophobic. Maybe even to the lenght where they want to kill gay people.
A little like, id maybe even think about cutting off my little finger.

But they are just your fingers, thoughts and feelings.


Id always like to think about.. or keep in mind. It really can be confusing, this close knit eco system we are of thoughts, feelings, sensations, etc. All tied up together.
And we can sorta, link or unlink these pathways.

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How we become afraid of ourselves or others.. events.. even sometimes without words.

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Also intrusive thoughts?. what is welcome and what is not.
A thought about a loved one can be intrusive aswell?, in a way.. well.. espesially if it is someone you are trying to forget.
 

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imaginary love...as simple as cuddling or kissing... or as intense as flashes of sex.

It comes out at inappropriate times like during mass:unsure:.
I cut it as soon as it comes~ by praying.
 

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imaginary love...as simple as cuddling or kissing... or as intense as flashes of sex.

It comes out at inappropriate times like during mass:unsure:.
I cut it as soon as it comes~ by praying.
I don't want to offend you, but you really shouldn't be suppressing your sexual desires. That's very harmful psychologically. It's got to come out one way or the other, and having visions of sex, even at potentially inappropriate times, is an awful lot better than the other ways it can manifest if it is suppressed - an extreme example of repressed sexuality being Islamist suicide bombers, keen to sacrifice themselves to obtain their reward of loads of sex with 72 virgins after death.

At any rate, you shouldn't feel guilty! You're a teenager, it is to be expected, and entirely consistent with nature and biology, that sex dominates your thinking. Anyone who says different is just a hypocrite who's forgotten their own adolescence!

Perhaps something you could try is excusing yourself, stepping outside or into the toilet or whatever, and taking a few moments to compose yourself before you come back in. It's no good to just cut it out.
 

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I don't want to offend you, but you really shouldn't be suppressing your sexual desires. That's very harmful psychologically. It's got to come out one way or the other, and having visions of sex, even at potentially inappropriate times, is an awful lot better than the other ways it can manifest if it is suppressed - an extreme example of repressed sexuality being Islamist suicide bombers, keen to sacrifice themselves to obtain their reward of loads of sex with 72 virgins after death.

At any rate, you shouldn't feel guilty! You're a teenager, it is to be expected, and entirely consistent with nature and biology, that sex dominates your thinking. Anyone who says different is just a hypocrite who's forgotten their own adolescence!

Perhaps something you could try is excusing yourself, stepping outside or into the toilet or whatever, and taking a few moments to compose yourself before you come back in. It's no good to just cut it out.
I don't approve of engaging with it, at-least not at inappropriate times. but, can what I do~ be considered as diverting that sexual energy? I want to learn how to divert it well.. you know, without getting all psycho.
 

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I have sometimes imagined someone poisoning my drink and me drinking it anyway.
 
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I don't approve of engaging with it, at-least not at inappropriate times. but, can what I do~ be considered as diverting that sexual energy? I want to learn how to divert it well.. you know, without getting all psycho.
You should read Freud on the libido. But given your age I don't think it'll be easy to divert some of your libido away from sex. Teenage is a turbulent, hormonal time, not helped in my case by going to an all boys school. That's like spending your pubescent years in a prison!
 
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I suffer from OCD/Intrusive thoughts.

I've had terrifying sexual thoughts, thoughts of violence against loved ones, thoughts of blurting out profanities, unwanted thoughts cursing Christ (even though I love Christ), etc. I think the latter one has caused the most devastation. Being a Christian and having unwanted, is cause for a lot of anguish and confusion.

I know that it is not sinful, or reflective of your desires, to have negative involuntary thoughts, but to someone with OCD, you doubt that they are just that; involuntary thoughts. When you have OCD, you ascribe a lot of meaning to things that are small. You make mountains out of ant hills, so to speak.
 

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Honestly I don't really have any that I would consider intrusive. My mind is a very unfiltered place and I'm not sure why. Namely, I made an effort for it to be that way some years ago, but I can't say for sure if it was the cause. I wanted to be able to think any thought and not be alarmed. If a thought popped up that scared me I confronted it. I'm not gay, but if I ever thought some man was kind of handsome or something, I noticed some irrational fear of being or turning gay. So what did I do? I went and looked at gay porn. That sort of thing. I also spent years meditating and doing psychedelics as a way to open every possible Pandora's Box in my mind and try to confront everything.

Whether or not those practices were responsible, I can safely say I'm quite different now. Indeed I have this inner confidence and stability which wasn't there before. Ugly thoughts still come up but they're more amusing to me than bothersome. Perhaps this is the "getting to know your shadow" that people speak of. What was interesting about the Zen sort of path I took was that at the beginning, it consisted of me actively trying to suppress my thoughts. By the end, I was not just letting everything in, but embracing it all too. And that turned me into a fucking monster. The end of that road was mental illness, and I dwelt in that place for some time, until I realized that just because I had certain thoughts didn't mean I had to believe them. And that's really what changed everything.

For instance, back in those times I remember thinking about my gun a lot. In fact I slept next to it in bed. I fantasized for quite a bit every day about how I would use it on myself, which part of my brain I would aim for (the stem), where I would do it to create the smallest mess (the woods), and just the very act of doing it. These days I rarely think about my gun, but sometimes if I am very pissed off about life an image of my gun does still pop into my head. I just notice it, though. It doesn't really bother me, I don't make much of it, I don't do anything with it. The thought just passes. I don't think I would call it intrusive.
 
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