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Is intuition the INTJ's area of creativity? I'm talking about MBTI and not Socionics. I find myself using my intuition a lot to grasp coherence. A professor let me in on a trick. He read a book on game theory and said he only read the first paragraph of each chapter, first and last without knowing the math. That's great. A purely whole picture gist understanding of a subject he didn't have a background in. I also like to come up with creative long range plans that I adapt and ever evolve. Other people may see my plans as indecisive but they make complete sense to me and adapt to growth, change, and circumnavigate the nonsense of life. Are the INTJ's more creative when it comes to logic and the INTP's more rigid?
 

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In introverted terms? Yes. However, (not made up), The ENTP is often regarded as the most creative of the NTs. While the INTJ is the mastermind. The ENTJ is the 'Boss', and the INTP is the freak genius. Even though all NTs can express these traits, and some express them more than their counter part. I've met some pretty creative ENTJs, and some pretty stupid INTPs. Some INTJs that didn't want to lead, and some ENTPs that always chose logic, but what I'm getting at is these are the basic stereotypes for NTs.
 

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How is the INTP the Freak Genius? I played Scrabble with an ISTP a lot and I noticed he and I both thought off the board. But I have this problem with others who think that you should use all your S's at the beginning of the word instead of the end. I see potential from either side. Do you know what I mean? Limitation irritates me.

As far as leadership goes, in my line of work, I make more than my managers a lot of the time. I have a job that affords me independence and an escape from the minutia of restaurant manmagement so why bother and I find myself snickering at those managers who feel entitled.

Couldn't an INTJ be a freak genius also? I see how they regard ideas as the pawn of reality or is it reality as the pawn of ideas? I always mix this up. But an INTJ will take an idea from anywhere and apply it.
 

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I was going by stereotypes. I explained they aren't always accurate.
 

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J and P vary the way you organize things. There are J traits and P traits, and everyone usually has a little bit of both. Being bothered by limitations, keeping things open and flexible, indecision, are all P traits. Doesnt mean you were mistested necessarily. Perhaps you like schedules and plans, are orderly and follow through, all of which is J.
 

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NTP's are good with internal organizing. Horrible at writing stuff down and having 'plans', but we probably know where all our stuff is. We'll remember things. I've also learned that if I ask my NTJ friend to write something down and remind me than I'll remember it without them needed to tell me.
 

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I always thought the INTP was more specific. A chair has 4 legs! The introverted sensing function. Exact measurements. Bust out the ruler and make sure everything is perfect. On the other hand, I recently went manic on a desk that was broken. I took cardboard and began to cut it out and stuff it on the top of this desk and I got into making reinforcements and all kinds of other madness. It was great. I can see myself getting all caught up in my architecture models when I finally get there.
 

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Some use their intuition differently than others, who's to say that an INTJ compared to ENTPs in general are more creative.
 

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I always thought the INTP was more specific. A chair has 4 legs! The introverted sensing function. Exact measurements. Bust out the ruler and make sure everything is perfect. On the other hand, I recently went manic on a desk that was broken. I took cardboard and began to cut it out and stuff it on the top of this desk and I got into making reinforcements and all kinds of other madness. It was great. I can see myself getting all caught up in my architecture models when I finally get there.
The Si function doesn't really manifest like that. Ne asks questions like: "How many legs does it make sense for a chair to have? Why is 4 better than 3 or 5?" and Ti makes short work of them. Si stores memories of such applications of the first two functions, the general patterns of thought and basic concepts (like, 'what makes a stable chair'), not specifics ('a chair has four legs').

That's how I see it, anyway. I haven't given this much thought, particularly considering other types and their functions, so I wouldn't call this very objective.
 
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