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The intention of this thread is for you guys to put a greater value on small clues that hint who or what are you dealing with.

Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree..
.. it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.” - Unknown

Now everyone has their set of abilities, talents and inclinations. Everyone is good at something. Some ppl know how to build physical buildings where we live at, some are good at making delicious food, some are good with reflecting reality through usefull theories, some are inspiring via their art or social art. On the negative side, some are good at sexual seduction of ppl of any age, some are good financial conmen, some are good pocket thieves. Or socially, some are good parents, or educators, or leaders, or good subordonants. But how to see into the computer of all these ppl.

After concluding that everyone is talented in their own path of success, the part that interested me after a increasingly boring monolog with an ex muse person of mine was, can we accurately estimate and even determine the IQ of the other person via communication analysis?

The IQ and the impact of that in competence is well known. That higher IQ means learning faster and more. Now being aware of the fact that IQ tests differ and the results are somewhat influenced slightly by education, the IQ of an adult, honestly answering person usually fluctuates very little. That means we can somewhat trust those tests.

Those of you who have tested IQ with long, qualitative certified tests probably have observed that the IQ is really staying approximately the same. The smaller part of you who have been tested professionally will see the test does not, ever fluctuate more than 5points, unless the person taking it is either exhausted or at has significant counsciousness levels fluctuation (17 of them, if was at pride and now at acceptance, the correlation will be positive). Then the most minor part of you who understand the full construction of the IQ tests, always scoring top tier results is not really our point of intrest here. You know your real score and hopefully cracking the IQ tests makes you want to find something fancier to crack instead of holding you in pride.

When we are taking the real IQ tests of ppl, and the style they communicate I stongly believe we can actually estimate their mental processor.

The how part came to me way later. To be competent in analysis instead of just confident based on approximative generalisation we'd require a solid system of analysis, but there are so many of them, what to choose, which one is the best?

I used to analyse stuff with SPSS. But thats largescale, mainly - in psychology though, indepth information gathering techniques are more based on suggestion, question, answer, affirmation, confirmation type of thinking. So. To get it going for us, Im setting up some softcore systems (publicly available) of analysis for you to test yourselves and then friends, and possibly check out the resonance of those with the real IQ taken with those high quality Q/A tests - any other systems to measure IQ either with determination or even estimative, will be surely highly appreciated by the community.

Hope this will add small but permanent value to the quality of your lives

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how to do it
There is no reliable, perfect way to test intelligence, and there never will be. That said, there are plenty of clues that you can follow to a logical conclusion — as long as you ask the right questions. Keep these handy pointers in mind when sizing up your subject's mental abilities:
Ask general questions, not specific ones
Anyone with enough time can memorize facts, figures and the like. Understanding larger, more abstract concepts is very different and more complex.

Look for considered, rational answers
Does it sound like they're repeating what they read in a newspaper, or have they actually thought things through on their own?

Be wary of big words that seem out of place or are used incorrectly.
Some people feel the need to puff themselves up by using words that sound impressive. If their choice of words sounds awkward or forced, take note.

Look out for buzzwords
Words like "proactive," for example, should give you an indication that the person is talking in clichs that are devoid of any real substance.

Listen for clichd phrases
Heavy use of clichs is a bad sign, but getting the clichs wrong is even worse. Make sure that you allow for cultural differences, as these idiomatic expressions are often hard for non-native speakers to learn.

Ask specific questions to which you know the answers
If they respond correctly or admit to simply not knowing the answer, good for them. If they start making things up, talking in circles or dodging the question, beware.
Ask a question that you already asked them, but reword it
See if they answer the same thing. This helps test actual knowledge rather than simple memorization.

Test their logic and common sense.
Don't just test their memory and how well they can elaborate on facts. See if they are able to make sense of things by asking questions that require them to deduce the answers through logical reasoning.

Ask them to troubleshoot a problem for which you've already asked for help from others.
This way, you'll be able to compare their answer to other ones you've received. Ask them to evaluate the situation and use analytical skills to solve a problem. But do try to be subtle about it.

Ask them for their opinion on something
Do they have an opinion or do they simply state facts? A differing opinion on a divisive issue isn't always a bad sign, but repeating bland, pre-scripted rhetoric is.

Gauge their people skills
Anticipating the reactions of others before saying something potentially offensive or inflammatory shows both class and tact. Smart people know how to sugarcoat the bitter pills of controversial subject matter, whereas dumb folk don't understand the subtle nuances of being polite.

Determine whether or not they are articulate
Presenting ideas clearly is much more important than using big words to do so. Using big, inappropriate words to present small, simple ideas is a decent indication that someone is trying to sound smarter than he actually is.

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci


This one is from Quora:

What does a person laugh at.( How much of humor is required to make him laugh and what is his level of intellect)

The kind of words being used.(tells a lot about his educational backgrounds and his ability to understand intricate things)

The topic of conversation, he's interested in.(What thoughts he carries in majority of times and what has his bringing up been, the kind of circle he has)

The dynamics and logic given by him to prove his point(How much sensible he is. example: 'I love painting because my father wanted me to be one' explains he is emotionally driven and may be he doesn't have his own choices or doesn't prioritize them)

The tone variation of his voice while he changes sentences.( Tells about on what he stresses and what is he casual about)

Using of words like 'thank you', 'sorry' and 'welcome' tells about his etiquette.

Eye contact( tells about the depth of interest he has in you, the topic and how much focused he is)

The position in which he sits/stands.( Tells about the kind of relations he has with you)

The origin and inclination of the topic(explains the purpose and intentions of the speaker)
so, the next time you converse it should be something real enough to worth understand

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I'm pretty sure i tried all of those to know the intelligence of people.
Those are just bias concept that NT types find smart , The reality is that evolution did NT types the less frequent for a reason.
At the end we just can prove our worth with results .

IQ is just potential doesn't mean anything without any real contribution.
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