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thanks, but no one will understand again clou that matter

During stress infj uses Se to relieve his/her functions, such as walking, meditation, music etc even sex ..

The hormone that writes causes the state of joy, euphoria especially in women .. (infj the woman is the majority as we know..? it is just coincidence..?)

The paradox is that something that is destructive to infj - like Se function, according to biology is supposed to help poor infj in their stress

Infj can pathologically have sex without any feelings in stress (which is known to be contrary to their values), which destroys internally infj, but on the other hand produces beneficial for infj.

Everything is, however, a denial of the infj of the soul, because infj achieves development through long use of intuition rather than fast sex without feeling !!!
 

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Oxytocin is triggered by much more than just sex. So is Se. Anyways the way you're describing it it sounds like gunning for dopamine as opposed to oxytocin. Oxytocin has a slower build up than dopamine.

Anyways there are things that can relieve discomfort in the moment but it may not be good for someone in the long run. (Temporary relief)^n vs temporary discomfort
---> long term relief. Not sure how that's paradoxical.
 

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So it is not known whether it is just biological development or also psychic, spiritual ?.. esp for infj ..?
 

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Infj can pathologically have sex without any feelings in stress (which is known to be contrary to their values), which destroys internally infj, but on the other hand produces beneficial for infj.

Everything is, however, a denial of the infj of the soul, because infj achieves development through long use of intuition rather than fast sex without feeling !!!
First of all you are making pretty harsh simplifications. There is no golden rule that sex without feelings destroy INFJs internally. Why do you think that developement through long use of intuition and fast sex without feelings has to be the opposite things? What if my intuition tells me that sometimes sex without feelings is good for me?
 

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But it's unnatural especially for infj .. infj make need a time using NI, so it is no takes time to settle for quick sex in a few minutes? Can not you see the contradiction?
 

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But it's unnatural especially for infj .. infj make need a time using NI, so it is no takes time to settle for quick sex in a few minutes? Can not you see the contradiction?
Sometimes doing things that aren't "natural" for us challenge us to think differently and help us to see life from new perspective. It's not neccessary a bad thing.
 
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check that:

INFJ's turn to unhealthy coping mechanisms that prolong their healing process.
Under stress, an INFJ's inferior function, extroverted sensing, often manifests itself. This can lead the INFJ to make impulsive decisions in an effort to decrease their stress and pain "immediately." These coping mechanisms aren't healthy or helpful for long-term healing, so the INFJ ends up dragging on their healing process.

The INFJ also tries to cope by retreating into solitude. Their independent nature makes them wary of relying on anyone too much for helping them with their pain. They also don't want to burden anyone, so they separate themselves from the world and spend time alone obsessing and ruminating unhealthily about the relationship. This also extends their pain, as they aren't getting the help they need and they're spending too much time alone in their minds, at a time when they have very little control over their minds and emotions because of their deep pain. ?? https://www.thedetermineddreamer.or...with-heartbreak-and-what-they-can-do-about-it
 

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First of all you are making pretty harsh simplifications. There is no golden rule that sex without feelings destroy INFJs internally. Why do you think that developement through long use of intuition and fast sex without feelings has to be the opposite things? What if my intuition tells me that sometimes sex without feelings is good for me?

@fabi I am going to go on a limb with this one but "sex without feelings destroys X internally" is a not MBTI. That falls on the "nurture" scale not the nature. Sex without feelings may destroy you or some ISFJ man or an ENTP woman but it is because of their mind set on sex not their MBTI. There are ENTPs on here who have mentioned that they cannot feel desire or anything physically during sex without having feelings for their partner (I know there is some name for that). Some can disconnect their feelings completely and sex is just sex with no regard to how they feel about the partner and just enjoy the moment. There may be tendencies between MBTI types to feel a certain way but I really think it is your attitude and atmosphere you were raised in that elevates whether it will bother you or not.

Also, what you are describing to me actually has nothing to do with the sex. It has to do with regret of doing something in the moment without thinking it through. Everyone experiences that. You could insert "had that cigarette after quitting during stress" or "ate that 1,000 calorie piece of cake while stressed" or "snapped off on a person you care about because you were stressed" in place of sex and it would mean the same.
 

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Since obviously oxytocin is released with these activities that means that they make you happy. If they don't, it's not because bad Se won't let you do things, it's because you don't really enjoy a particular activity. Just because you're likely as an INFJ to engage in compulsive "unhealthy Se" or whatever doesn't mean that any engagement with these activities is unhealthy.

Of course, there are many things that we do and make us feel good, but they're ultimately bad for us psychologically or physically or both. Like addiction. If that's the case, well, then stop or control that behaviour or habit.
 
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