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eg: "There is no sense of betraying his wife, because finally April and the other sex robots are not people but machines. Moreover, it is not isolated in its opinion. A recent study published by metro.co.uk showed that 40% The British believe that sex with a robot does not betray. Our survey, which took place over 35 thousand. People indicated that 39 per cent. Of us thinks sex robots are an inseparable part of our future." ..?
 

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I think it has to do with communication in a relationship. In each relationship you need to communicate on what you do and do not think is a betrayal. In some relationships kissing with another person isn't cheating. In others, even being in the same room with another person could be. Of course, most people don't explicitly talk about stuff like this, but people really should.

So in short: if one person in the relationship thinks this is something they might do, they should talk about it with their significant other. If the other person has a problem with it, that's a reason not to do it. (because in each relationship, both have to be comfortable with the boundaries. If one person is uncomfortabble with something, that means it should never happen)

Personally, I would have a problem with it if the robot is lifelike. If the robot wasn't it would just be masturbation, otherwise, the person does it to establish a connection with another that I want to keep personal within my relationship. I couldn't accept that in my partner.
 

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But the emotions that may be associated with it are not to be agreed upon earlier..
 

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But the emotions that may be associated with it are not to be agreed upon earlier..
That's true. Which means that if you see those feelings in yourself at some point, that's the point to talk to the other person about it and not do anything with the feelings until you're sure the other person thinks it's okay in your relationship.

In my opinion: in a relationship it's not about feelings, it's about consensus. Everyone in the relationship has to agree to the terms for the relationship to be viable. If you act on something while you don't know if the other would be okay with it, that's as bad as cheating on them. Always talk about the actions first.
 

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I would ask this, is a women masturbating with a dildo (robo dick) a betrayal? And an extension to that, if lesbians use a dildo, does that make them bi and having a threesome?

 

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It is relationship specific- however, this question, like all questions that are attached to personal emotions, is complex. But, for the sake of precision, it comes down to two factors: betrayal vs mental sanity. We must also place it into the context of those who are currently ok with masturbation, porn, and attending strip clubs. Therefore, this question is certainly not for those who have issues with any of the above.

That being said, "sexual betrayal" is a social condition involving emotions. Meaning, he or she doing the act is essentially perceived as being emotionally/physically removed from the possessive enjoyment of their significant other. What also plays a factor are the intentions and agendas of the other participating figure. Often, women who catch their S/O cheating will attempt to compare themselves with the other woman in the areas of success, beauty, etc.. Therefore, if the porn watching or other person presents a threat of possible realistic-emotional removal, then jealousy sets in. But, this all comes with confidence and the assurance by the one participating in such activities.

As for robots, you have to consider that sex bots are a mere extension of a hand toy or doll. If your significant other is ok with hand toys and dolls, then chances are, sex bots will also be deemed as fitting, but BUT REALLY STRANGE- which is another topic altogether. Reason for such is that robots, while may perhaps be able to satisfy physical urges, don't present the "human" and agenda aspects of humans who trigger jealousy and other emotions.

On the other end, engaging in sex with bots also calls into question the mental state of a person and how much your significant other is willing to put up with. Just the mere thought of a person going to sex-bot brothels is pretty out there on any "human" level...
 

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well in general partners dislike when you jerk off by yourself

same logic would most likely apply? but betrayal is a bit too much me think, I would probably don't mind tho :angry:
 
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eg: "There is no sense of betraying his wife, because finally April and the other sex robots are not people but machines. Moreover, it is not isolated in its opinion. A recent study published by metro.co.uk showed that 40% The British believe that sex with a robot does not betray. Our survey, which took place over 35 thousand. People indicated that 39 per cent. Of us thinks sex robots are an inseparable part of our future." ..?
It is not a "betrayal," in a sense that (X)-husband is decided not to sexually give himself to another agent; it is, however indeed, a "betrayal" of ones trust - thus, an act of disloyality to ones vows, in so far as the husband (deprives) and/or "punishes" the wife by indulging in a 'faux' vice (having 'coitus' with agent-modelling robot'), to escape "real life," frustration being strained of both agencies, reluctance to communicative his needs, feelings of neglect, share conflict resolutions and/or discuss why such a 'robot' is needed in the first place, and indulgence with such robot has 'supplementary' intimacy in secracy or as an essential, punishes the wife unnecessarily/uselessly.

The same follows, say, with a 'wife' withholding coitus from ones husband as a 'punishiment' and/or "secretly" unnecessarily frustrating the husbands agency.

In the same sense, walking in on ones wife sucking away at an agent-modeling robotic infant penis attached to a (strongly life-like) child bot that resembles her own son would demonstrably raise instinctive questions, 'sleeping with child dolls,' harms no actual children nor breaks an "actual crime," it is indeed however, indgulence within a vice (re: just a "nice way" of putting a safe way to indulge in ones pedophilic urges and satisfying unmet intimacy-needs from children). Thus, still a stressor on the participants own agency, rather than mitigating such stressors.

The metaphor above applies to the extent that (X)-specimen indulging in supplimentary 'agent-'modeling' robots [and desiring such "bots"] to as agent-like or as sententious as possible demonstrates a specimen partaking in a vice [having sex with 'non-human' simulated-'other people'].

The weakness of the 'in defense' argument simply says: 'fucking a dog' isn't necessarily 'betrayal' of the wife, because it is non-human & behind wifes back, which I simply say, so what? It is not a rather 'good' argument, is it? Assuming sex-robots are at a differential degree of 'consciousness' in the "near future," on that of low-functioning animals - and progression with time is making (X)-sex bots as 'lifelike' as possible, will merely making such 'sex robots' a moral concern and thus, moral indistinguishable from the very humanoid(s) screwing their screws, the argument is soon self-refuting & caving in on itself by sheer agency applied.


Simple solution, of course, is the husband, under vows, follow said vows, and is required to communicative + express ones frustrations with (X)-wife, before punishing her. If not, you are breaking your side of (X)-monogamous deal. This makes (X)-husband eligible to be divorced. I will not be surprised these start ruining marriages! As demonstrated in countries such as Japan.
 

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I'd just find it weird.

Jerking off with a dildo, or a fleshlight, or even a "mechanical" blowjob machine thing is different from having a lifelike being in bed with your partner.

If I came home to see him using a fleshlight on himself, I wouldn't really think twice about it.

However, if I came home and saw in thrusting into what looked like a person, I'd find it weird, and unsettling. I wouldn't necessarily find it betrayal, I just wouldn't like it in general.

But on a psychological level, the brain is able to attach itself to objects pretty easily. For instance, the volleyball in Castaway. That's not a silly idea. People left in isolation and sensory deprivation start attaching and forming conversations with objects. Thus, a person's ability to attach to a human-like object isn't

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So, I'd wonder about that of people who have sex robots.
 
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My perspective is from the wife's and that is just one side of this.
I am always sexually available and actively want more sex from my husband and he knows this, so any time he is doing anything with anything else just makes me feel like he is either being withholding or that he's not allowing me to fulfill his needs. Or may not care about MY needs. So this would be extremely selfish of him to do and at our current level of communication on this there is absolutely no possible defensible justification for being with anything but me.

Why not just work on the relationship and getting your needs met through your partner? Which is definitely one of the reasons you committed to them in the first place.

No, of course I hate this idea of robots.... I'm not even in the realm of thinking these should even exist.
 

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eg: "There is no sense of betraying his wife, because finally April and the other sex robots are not people but machines. Moreover, it is not isolated in its opinion. A recent study published by metro.co.uk showed that 40% The British believe that sex with a robot does not betray. Our survey, which took place over 35 thousand. People indicated that 39 per cent. Of us thinks sex robots are an inseparable part of our future." ..?
The problem is that robots with AI will become more and more lifelike. At a certain point, they will more than just machines with their own kind of dignity. Secondly, before that point even comes, many will succumb to having feelings for them. YES, it is betrayal.
 

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The problem is that this problem is much broader than people think ...?

- the initial entries that the relationship of two people is a contract is not enough .. it also uncontrollable emotions ..

example of a book "Wuthering Heights" and the famous heroine's quote that someone broke her soul?

- that robotic sex is mechanical is not the correct assumption ..

What about sex already made online? After all, the computer is also a "machine"?

- What about sex with a robot controlled online by another human?

and my favorite thread, remember the movie Solaris ..
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George Clooney after the death of his wife man, meets in space on Solaris something his wife is ... looks like a man from the planet earth ...
(maybe it's only the illusion of George Clooney)

What about sex with such a thing on the planet Solaris if, for example, George Clooney already has a new wife on the planet earth?

ps. Did the wife die and her illusion on the planet Solaris has a soul? When George Clooney thinks it is realistic, but objectively it's just a form of energy?
 
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