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neither, the world is only changing shedding both things consider good and bad, we're becoming more aware of society and more people have an understanding of future.

I'm pretty sure people have thought things were getting worse at many times in history.
 

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We had it much much worse in the past. Things always get better, even when it seems otherwise :p.
I wouldn't say things always get better, there have been some distinct setbacks in the past: the fall of the Roman Empire lost us hypodermic needles and other technological advances, the burning of the Library at Alexandria lost tons of irreplaceable knowledge. There's always the capacity for things to get worse.
 

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I'd say the opposite, especially in America, which is getting more conservative. The only reason you see so many liberal views on the internet is because the internet is populated heavily by young people, who tend to be far more liberal than old people.
I didn't say America was going more left.. I said the left is becoming more extreme, which simply widens an already existing gap.
 

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Keep in mind that I'm type six. We sometimes think the worst. However, I watch the news, I read, and I see and hear things that all tell me we're going down hill fast. As in four wheels, no brakes.:sad:
Actual studies have concluded that life in fact is the best it has ever been. People make more money than ever, live longer than ever and crime has been steadily dropping for over 3 decades.
You know what has changed? The media.
For example there has been a huge increase the use of alarmist/sensationalist headlines. Like a recent political article I read where I was promised one political leader "bashed" another. When I read the story I found no bash or even an argument. Just one politician stating he disagreed with another and he was quite civil.. That's it.. The media is focused almost exclusively on the negative aspects of life and the platforms for media exposure have increased significantly in the last 20 years.
If people only read the headlines and only focus on the negatives, then the world is a scary, cold and dangerous place indeed
 

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Let me first say that all of what I am about to say is from pure observation and mostly opinion. Nothing of what I say should be taken literally or even construed as a fact.

First of all, there is greater democracy and freedom in the world today than in past centuries. Slavery of an outright nature has diminished. People are also better connected culturally.
First of all, what do you define as freedom? Being able to live a lifestyle of your own? Being able to get any job you want with enough effort (due to economic reasons)? Personally, I don't see any more freedom than before. We may have the ability to have a decent life, but freedom is a joke. Before everyone gets up in arms, I'm not talking about anarchism, because I know there's government for a reason. Have you read or debated about any of the new "national security laws" congress is trying to slip through? Have you truly read the bills and not the comments on some biased political blog or main stream media site? These bills have a lot of vague language in them and I would not doubt it was written that way for a reason (brb tin foil hat).

Back to the main point, people may be able to connect culturally or are at least more tolerant of different cultures, but we're still humans. We still hate people, we still kill people, etc. Nothing has changed, only the technology to make our lives easier and/or communicate with each other. The only way we, as humans, can effectively better society is to start at home. People need to raise their damn kids with some kind of ethical base. Being at Job Corp, everyone is greedy, selfish, jealous of one another, and overall just ignorant for the sake of laziness. This is the kind of society I saw outside of here as well. I can only speak from a perspective as a citizen of the US (I've been up and down the East Coast and as far west as Ohio).


There are problems with globalization, but societies are starting to deal with the effects of that.
[citation needed]

There are still social problems and inequalities in the world, there are still problems with modern society, but socially and politically, I think of people being better off.
To each their own.

Secondly, if there is a God in the world, is he less caring about one century compared to another? Does he just allow problems to get worse? or is he always the same caring God that he was?
I honestly don't see how god/s (if any) effects any actions a single person makes. That's just me though.

Better or worse? Where is the world going?
Personally, I believe that this world will still be the same, at least in my lifetime. Same shit, different pile, if you want to call it.
 

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I wouldn't say things always get better, there have been some distinct setbacks in the past: the fall of the Roman Empire lost us hypodermic needles and other technological advances, the burning of the Library at Alexandria lost tons of irreplaceable knowledge. There's always the capacity for things to get worse.
People were nailed to crosses, no English toilets, primitive medicine, condemning people for science, life expectancy of less then 50 years, lack of education and the list goes on and on ;) we never had it this good before I assure you and things will only get better. I agree that we sometimes take a few steps back with wars and all kinds of bullshit, but we keep making progress despite that.

Today we live in an age where information is free, we have advanced medicine, fringing toilets, computers, and much much more.
 

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People were nailed to crosses, no English toilets, primitive medicine, condemning people for science, life expectancy of less then 50 years, lack of education and the list goes on and on ;) we never had it this good before I assure you and things will only get better. I agree that we sometimes take a few steps back with wars and all kinds of bullshit, but we keep making progress despite that.

Today we live in an age where information is free, we have advanced medicine, fringing toilets, computers, and much much more.
Don't doubt the human race's ability to screw the pooch in clinch time, we can still nuke ourselves into oblivion or destroy the planet in some other technologically spectacular way.
 

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Don't doubt the human race's ability to screw the pooch in clinch time, we can still nuke ourselves into oblivion or destroy the planet in some other technologically spectacular way.
^^; I expect nothing but that, if we don't ;) its happy time. So far however despite setbacks we are doing good, could be better, but yeah we tend to screw ourselves over so progress isn't optimal.

From all the signs nowadays a giant shitstorm is about to hit lol. Can't wait to see that one..:dry:
 

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I am curious about the notion of directionality of society, where are we supposed to be headed for things to be 'better'?


Actual studies have concluded that life in fact is the best it has ever been. People make more money than ever, live longer than ever and crime has been steadily dropping for over 3 decades.
Are people happier than they've ever been? Depression has reached epidemic levels in many countries. (Was this always the case, but awareness was suppressed? Or is it a recent trend?)
 

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I am curious about the notion of directionality of society, where are we supposed to be headed for things to be 'better'?




Are people happier than they've ever been? Depression has reached epidemic levels in many countries. (Was this always the case, but awareness was suppressed? Or is it a recent trend?)
I am pretty sure they keep changing the standard of what happiness is. I know it costs a lot more than it used to.. Is a lot thinner than it used to be, had more hair or less hair etc etc... You know what I mean?
 

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I didn't say America was going more left.. I said the left is becoming more extreme, which simply widens an already existing gap.
I'm not sure I'd even say that, at least not in America. Obama pretty much just continued on all of Bush's polices, or he added to them. The Republican Party is definitely getting more right-wing, they have been since Reagan, that said the Republican candidates never really follow through with any of the things they use to get support for election, it'll be the same with Romney. If he gets elected, he'll just ignore the demands of others on the right to outlaw abortion, get rid of Obamacare and all that other crap.

Whilst the supporters might be getting more extreme on both sides, both parties are becoming as homogeneous as ever. It makes democracy look at best illusory, and at worse a complete sham.
 

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I'm not sure I'd even say that, at least not in America. Obama pretty much just continued on all of Bush's polices, or he added to them. The Republican Party is definitely getting more right-wing, they have been since Reagan, that said the Republican candidates never really follow through with any of the things they use to get support for election, it'll be the same with Romney. If he gets elected, he'll just ignore the demands of others on the right to outlaw abortion, get rid of Obamacare and all that other crap.

Whilst the supporters might be getting more extreme on both sides, both parties are becoming as homogeneous as ever. It makes democracy look at best illusory, and at worse a complete sham.
The worst part is people with IQs of 10 and below will vote for these morons.
 

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I'm not sure I'd even say that, at least not in America. Obama pretty much just continued on all of Bush's polices, or he added to them. The Republican Party is definitely getting more right-wing, they have been since Reagan, that said the Republican candidates never really follow through with any of the things they use to get support for election, it'll be the same with Romney. If he gets elected, he'll just ignore the demands of others on the right to outlaw abortion, get rid of Obamacare and all that other crap.

Whilst the supporters might be getting more extreme on both sides, both parties are becoming as homogeneous as ever. It makes democracy look at best illusory, and at worse a complete sham.
Do I seem to be taking sides in your mind? I assure you I am not .. I can criticize one side of a debate and it does not mean I am in support of the other. This is lost on so many I hardly bother anymore.
Obama is a complete and utter fuck up as President. That does not mean I support Romney ..
 

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The media is focused almost exclusively on the negative aspects of life and the platforms for media exposure have increased significantly in the last 20 years.
If people only read the headlines and only focus on the negatives, then the world is a scary, cold and dangerous place indeed
Makes me feel quite unclear at times (stopped watching TV and following news media when so much good happens every day, getting ignored), as if this generation (last 15 years) will need Al'Gazera/middle eastern news reporting styles to keep their attention when so much information exists to desensitise people if they wish*.

*Makes me think of a shock factor conversation I had with a friend, who noted how the UK news media did not even report a gruesome homicide in his former town in 2008 (where 'junkies' dismembered a body spreading it around a town in a children's park and other local places, instead choosing to sensationalise an emotive manhunt involving Ian Huntley), yet now we hear more about Syria, Korea, Iraqi soldier loses, deaths and unwarranted massacres almost daily (why I won't watch the new Batman film).
 

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It's fluid. It keeps changing, but not necessarily towards one direction or another. It "feels" like it's getting worse, though I'm pretty positive that's not getting worse or better. It's just changing.

Society is becoming denser, maybe. More present.
 

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It's fluid. It keeps changing, but not necessarily towards one direction or another. It "feels" like it's getting worse, though I'm pretty positive that's not getting worse or better. It's just changing.

Society is becoming denser, maybe. More present.
I agree. As technology advances very quickly right now, we are faced with other problems than our ancestors were.
While alot of us don't have to fight as hard for food and against disease, we instead have to fight against misinformation and propaganda.

When we learn to cope with the circumustances today, society will probably have grown and new problems will have come with it.
 
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