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Hi guys! I'm a new member to this site but I've been interested in typology for a while now. I've been typed as an ISFJ which I agree with on some parts: - I take criticism harshly - I hate being the center of attention - I avoid confrontation unless absolutely necessary - I'm a responsible and sensible person

But there are some parts of the ISFJ description that I can't relate to: - I'm a very open minded and non-judgemental type of person and can accept that people have diefferent views - I'm laid back and have been described as mellow and am a total procrastinator - I feel that a set routine is stifling

I definitely know I'm an "I" but I'm not sure if I'm just a unique type of ISFJ or something entirely different. Any suggestions are appreciated :) Thanks!
 

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Yeeessssss, they exist!!

I consider myself extremely laid back, open minded and mellow. I'm the biggest procrastinator you'll ever meet, I accept other people's views and try not to judge anybody. Those things certainly don't mean you're not an ISFJ.

When you try to place people into 16 distinct categories, there is no way you're going to fit the bill completely. I've made the mistake of a) Thinking I'm not an ISFJ because I don't relate to everything that an ISFJ should, and b) Trying to emulate the typical characteristics of an ISFJ as if there was something wrong with me for not being the prototypical ISFJ.

As for ISFJs being judgmental and not able to accept other's views, that's just a completely false stereotype. I found this in the thread http://personalitycafe.com/cognitive-functions/24032-intro-function-theory-more-detailed-descriptions-each-function-attitude.html, and thought it was very interesting:

It's a common misconception that Si users are traditionalists on principle. In my experience, many older Si users (xSxJ types have Si as dom/secondary) are traditionalists because the only source of information they had was their parents and the traditions they were raised with, but these days many younger SJs are much less traditionalist in nature because information is so much more freely available than it was just a few generations ago. Si is not into tradition just for the sake of tradition; it just likes to relate new information to something it already knows. Rules and traditions can be a convenient way to do this, but it's a mistake to believe that Si always leads to traditionalism for its own sake.
 

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of course. id say we are very laid back unless angered, frightened or saddened. look at me, im being laid back right now.
 
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I agree. I'm a pretty big procrastinator also. And I'm VERY laid back... (I used to be a bit more uptight, though...so it's possible that I've just evened out a bit over the years). I'm also fairly open minded and try not to be judgmental (I don't believe in total open mindedness, though - that's completely impossible, but I do try to listen to other viewpoints and take them into consideration) :)
 

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Yup, like other have said, certainly possible - I have a friend who once remarked emphatically 'You're so easy going! I love you!' xD. With the internet becoming a huge part of our culture, most kids are gonna be exposed to a rather larger world out there. To what extent and how internet cliques and culture will effect and form part of the individual 'culture' built up by an ISFJ isn't something I'm sure of, but I think it will.
I think Si can cause one to need a neat envorinment, but I think it's more like the ISFJ needs to feel comfortable, so whatever constitutes comfort for them is key - neatness can be one form - I'm rather sensitive to colour, lack of fresh air, and aesthetically pleasing set up/need a bit of feng shui, or something along those lines. Clothes being strewn across the floor might make me less inclined to be studious, but they arn't something I'm uncomfortable with.

I start to feel somewhat insane and apathetic in a job that has me doing regular hours, is overly repetitive and non physical after about a couple of weeks - I can stick with it for a long time, but it feels mostly soul destroying. I also need to do different tasks almost every day and not sit in one small room alone for anything longer than a couple of hours otherwise I start to feel very blocked up, unmotivated (because I'm a terrible procrastinator) and generally pretty crappy. I don't need to talk to people or socialise, I just need to get out and do things, or be consumed doing things inside - whatever it is it has to feel fulfilling, and worth something. If I can get out for a couple of hours each day, but spend the rest of the time confined alone in a small room doing important things/working, I feel ok. but generally I'll procrastinate and feel awful.
One of the main compliments my mum gives me is that I'm so non-judgemental - I definately agree with the sentiment of there not being total opennmindedness, sometimes it is approaching things in an openminded manner, and appearing so, rather than making no judgements, I think being in some ways judgemental can help being more opennminded - I weigh up the risks to myself more honestly rather than just optimistically trusting and agreeing with everything, then being shocked and appauled when something does finally go wrong - the person does something unexpected or heinous. I do approach things with the utmost openmindedness generally, and it's more a case of considering possibilities than being sure of judements. With people I know well, however, I would say I can be intuitive about it, though I have alot more difficulty with a degree of Fi users or T users/people who emote subtly or differently to me, Fe is something personal to me, so I generally know how it works, better and so can more easily make the jumps. Though this is going on a sort've tangent. My point, I guess, is that generally I don't trust my own judgements, and don't presume to be so arrogantas to believe in them without lots of consideration, or thoughtless to go straight off with them without proof. When I'm more sure, I suppose I'll be more decisive.

I agree, it's when we're angered, frightened, stressed or anxious that behaviours/non laid backness may start to come out.

As for being oepnminded, I was brought up by a mum who valued it, so I have no social/environmental aprehensions. I'm also pretty sure I'd have been drawn to the unsual/darker things I am whether or not my mum had had it on the good list. I don't know how it would have been if I'd grown up with extreamly close minded parents who preached (In a manner of speaking) that.
 

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Well, I'm a huge procrastinator as well. Most of the time I do try to keep myself busy and "on top" of things though, and when I don't, I usually feel guilty about it. I think for most of my life I haven't been that good at handling stress, so I probably seem pretty uptight and neurotic most of the time.

I think I can be laid back, and I think deep down I really am, I'm just really self-aware and cautious, something that's just grown more and more apparent in me over the years. When I was younger I was really laid-back, so I think this might have something to do with maturing, but then again you'll find plenty of twenty year old's who aren't as uptight as me.

But! I'm 100% sure many ISFJ's are laid back, it's not hard to imagine at all. :)
 

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I'm laid back procrastinator. and am very open minded, accepting of other ideas as well
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I agree with everyone that we're pretty laid back in general. I think that we're all laid back in different areas though. This is probably mostly due to the fact that we base so much on our experiences. You can take two ISFJs and put them through similar experiences and probably have a different result as to how they react to that experience. I think it probably has to do with the little things that made that experience positive or negative. So we can be pretty laid back when it comes to things that we know we've had positive experiences with but maybe a little uptight with something unknown or negative. Also, I think it really matters who we're around. I'm probably just full of it in this analysis but it is something I've been thinking about as I read certain threads.

Personally, I'm pretty laid back when I'm at home or doing something with somebody at my home or even their home if I've been there enough. Anywhere else and it will depend on who I'm with.
 

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I'm pretty laid-back, open-minded, and have quite a calm sense. I wouldn't say I'm a huge procrastinator, but the way I prioritize things may look like I am sometimes.
 

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I really enjoyed reading everybody's responses to this thread--especially Seeker99's response, which I would like to +1 very strongly. :)

I do think that an ISFJ's laid-back-ish-ness (hey, if you know what it means then it's a word) kind of depends on the situation, though. One reason that other types might see ISFJs as uptight is that we're pretty law-abiding in general; I mean, I yelp in distress when I see somebody putting something together without reading the instructions, I would never litter even if it was only a wadded-up Tootsie Roll wrapper, and even if a parking lot is completely free of cars, I still don't really think it's right to park in a disabled-parking spot when you're not disabled. :unsure: I can't count the number of times somebody has gotten upset with me because my not wanting to break a rule put a crimp in their plans or inconvenienced them in some way, or because I pestered them when they weren't following a rule, but even knowing that it frustrates other people, it's hard for me give in when it comes to that kind of stuff. ("But--but it's wrong!") So in that kind of situation, I'll admit that I'm not especially laid-back.

In other situations, though, like when it comes to forgiving somebody, or being willing to lend a helping hand, or not judging somebody for how they look or some things that they do, I actually think that I'm more laid-back and easygoing than most people I know. Also, like other people in this thread, I try to be open-minded about new points of view (to a certain extent), and I'm an awful procrastinator (which I kick myself about all the time).

So, while I can see how we might be viewed as not very easy-going, I also think our reputation as being stifled and uptight isn't completely fair.

P.S. I can't help but notice how many procrastinators have responded to this thread, and I'm a bit intrigued. I think a procrastination poll might be in order...
 

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I'm pretty persnikety about not litering it's becoming more apparent. I even have a habit of putting things in the wrong bin because I don't pay attention to the signs, and then taking them out and putting them in the right one. It's not really effort, and it's not messy, and it niggles at my conscience if I don't straight off.
 

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@Tanigi I have to agree with your above post 100%.I'm very laid back,non judgemental, open minded and a huge procrastinator too.But when it comes to breaking rules I'm very strict in following my values, morals and following the law.I have never taken any illegal drugs even though I know people who do.I don't really agree with the choice that they are making,but it's their choice to make not mine,and I don't see that it's my place to tell them how to live their lives.
 

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Some of my friends consider me laid back and down to earth...I see that myself too...I don't like being stiff, depending on the situation.
 
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