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Hi ISTPs. You seem so rational and non emotional. You also don't seem to react as much unless it's one of those few things important to you. It's hard to know whether there is a sea of emotions flowing regularly through you that is unvoiced, or if what you see is really what you get? Agree, disagree? Thoughts?
 

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The MBTI Manual speak about the ISTP the most likely to get upset or angry and show it. In other words, can be violent or threatening . (INTJ in third position). Without having the time to understand how, you can really to receive an emotional tornado.



My father was ISTP caricature. I confirm.
 

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Yeah you piss me off and you get to know about it otherwise I'm pretty emotionless unless I'm having fun (I don't mean in the bedroom) other than that I can keep my emotions under control and hidden most of the time
 

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Yeah you piss me off and you get to know about it otherwise I'm pretty emotionless unless I'm having fun (I don't mean in the bedroom) other than that I can keep my emotions under control and hidden most of the time
So, in your natural state, are you generally emotionless or do you hide your emotions (meaning you are emotional to a degree but hide it)?
 

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So, in your natural state, are you generally emotionless or do you hide your emotions (meaning you are emotional to a degree but hide it)?
Just generally I'm emotionless but I try to keep emotions under control but saying that about 6 months ago I had an argument with one of my good friends when his Mrs was around later she told me she was pregnant and didn't want stress (she had 2 miscarriages prior and was on meds to aid pregnancy) but while she was telling me I got teary eyed
 

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It's hard to know whether there is a sea of emotions flowing regularly through you that is unvoiced, or if what you see is really what you get?
The latter. Fundamental is the lack of a filter; so if there is nothing, there is nothing, and if there is something, you get the full dose. You could argue it's fortunate the sea is calm most of the time, for otherwise it would be constant drama, but then again, I like to think those go hand in hand, and one necessitates the other.

Those remarks aside, I would not call this state "emotionless" (your second post). For one, I don't label my default state "feel nothing", but "content". (It's the middle point of my mood scale that goes Happy -- Content -- Sad. In those steps.) And for another, all those emotions are there, it just seems like they are a million miles away, and you experience them as though from a vast distance, like fireworks you barely see over the edge of the horizon.

So I don't "lack emotions" because I actually lack emotions, rather, the distance mutes them to near-nothingness. And this, by the way, is not an active act of supression -- I wouldn't even know why or how to do that, see above --, that's just the way it is, without doing anything in particular.
 

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I have a question I'd like to add to the mix:

Are ISTPs ever scared of their emotions? If you feel strongly for someone, whether romantic or platonic, are you afraid of those feelings? If you are sad, does the idea of someone else knowing it make you uncomfortable?

And if you know a friend cares intensely for you, does that bring you comfort or make you uncomfortable?
 

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I have a question I'd like to add to the mix:

Are ISTPs ever scared of their emotions? If you feel strongly for someone, whether romantic or platonic, are you afraid of those feelings? If you are sad, does the idea of someone else knowing it make you uncomfortable?

And if you know a friend cares intensely for you, does that bring you comfort or make you uncomfortable?
I think my husband is an ISTP. He isn't afraid of his feelings, but he doesn't reach that far to access those emotions either. It's not that they aren't there, but that he doesn't put in effort to seek them out.

He doesn't like to burden others with his troubles. Not that he feels some righteous moral cause to keep his troubles hidden away, but it's more like he feels he can handle it himself so why bring others down. He is pretty big on not making things negative or bringing in a negative vibe for others though. Just a general thing for him, it's pretty simple and what you see is what you get, no hidden motives.

I am interested to see how ISTPs here respond too.
 

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The argument becomes circular when you go down that route. "Scared" and "afraid" are feelings, so if you don't feel anything in particular usually, you also don't feel afraid of feeling something, no.

Again: We (or at least I, but experience shows I'm not alone) aren't somehow "at odds" with "our feely side", or actively try to "suppress" or "change" it. In a healthy, mature person, it's just another part yourself that is perfectly accepted -- it just so happens that here, it's a really distant (or, perspectively speaking, tiny) part of ourselves. Not quite an afterthought, but almost.

And consequently, like I said, whoever is around gets the full dose, no filter: I'm sad, you get sad, I'm happy, you get happy, and luckily, for everyone who doesn't like rollercoasters, 90% of the time it's "content", so you get to experience our serene selves. Of all the things you can share, my emotions are the easiest. I don't mind the whole world knowing exactly what I feel about things (very much as opposed to all my thoughts, which basically no knows, family included -- they are mine.)


What I am conscious about is other's feelings. I dislike making people uncomfortable (which doesn't preclude acting in that sense, feeling =/= action), and I never quite know what to do with an abundance of external emotions, as I lack the experience or skill to deal with it. Hence typically avoiding such situations, simply because being out of your depth is an unpleasant experience, as I'm sure most will agree.
 

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Why don't you share your thoughts? That is a surprising statement to me. Do you just mean for people who aren't interested? Like, it's not all out there on the table for taking, but if we dig, we'll get all of the thoughts? We like your thoughts. Lol.
 

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@twirler: I dunno, is it surprising? Private is that which makes me me, or you you. And the most private parts of yourself are those which you share least easily, for various reasons; if nothing else, that the more it is you, the more you expose yourself.

What makes me me are my thoughts, not my feelings. Hence, I don't mind giving away the latter freely. You can't, for example, hurt me there, not really. It's different with my thoughts. (I recognise that for a lot/most people, it's the reverse, and the expectations are accordingly. Comes in handy, every now and then -- by giving away feelings, I can grant valuable gifts, at little expense to myself.)

So, no, I doubt I have ever shared all my thoughts with anyone. Everyone knows parts, of course, but not the whole. Maybe one day, for that one person ... or not *shrug* Presently, I don't mind either way.
 

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I have a question I'd like to add to the mix:

Are ISTPs ever scared of their emotions? If you feel strongly for someone, whether romantic or platonic, are you afraid of those feelings? If you are sad, does the idea of someone else knowing it make you uncomfortable?

And if you know a friend cares intensely for you, does that bring you comfort or make you uncomfortable?
I'm married to an istp - I know my husband well- so I can answer pertaining to him not all istp because people are individuals, same question could be ask in any types forum and you will get variety of different responses

° my partner (23 at the time, i was 21- 2 years into our relationship) was fearful of letting me know that he was in love with me-
he told me it was because he didn't know how to express it and was afraid that if he showed too much emotions I might get scared or run off . Opening up about his trouble or stress /fear happens after a few weeks- we communicate a lot - even throughout the 6 months we weren't together we still converse at least an hour a day

Oddly enough the moment I broke up with him ( long story) he opened up entirely and pretty much tried to make me regain feelings for him( without pressure- but his action were very clear that he made a mistake and his emotions were no longer hidden) when I did regain feelings for him and we got back together- he opened up to me freely - no fear - no nothing , so I see a much different side of him than everyone else does( we have been together for over 14 years , never engaged in a loud argument and its mainly due to the fact that we can communicate our frustration with one another out )
So no opening up - expressing thoughts or emotions isn't hidden between us , if my husband have any fear/stress/trouble - I would know, he doesn't hide his own emotions or thoughts away from me. He wakes me up at 2 am to talk about his anxiety
From observation of those with inferior fe in my life - I think it's harder for them to deal with comforting others people emotions compared to expressing their own . My partner freeze the moment something tragic happens to me ( as in death of a love one or something equally severe) I can't really open up to him bc he gets stressed over my situation and would try to solve it, despite the fact that it can't be solved .

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The argument becomes circular when you go down that route. "Scared" and "afraid" are feelings, so if you don't feel anything in particular usually, you also don't feel afraid of feeling something, no.

Again: We (or at least I, but experience shows I'm not alone) aren't somehow "at odds" with "our feely side", or actively try to "suppress" or "change" it. In a healthy, mature person, it's just another part yourself that is perfectly accepted -- it just so happens that here, it's a really distant (or, perspectively speaking, tiny) part of ourselves. Not quite an afterthought, but almost.

And consequently, like I said, whoever is around gets the full dose, no filter: I'm sad, you get sad, I'm happy, you get happy, and luckily, for everyone who doesn't like rollercoasters, 90% of the time it's "content", so you get to experience our serene selves. Of all the things you can share, my emotions are the easiest. I don't mind the whole world knowing exactly what I feel about things (very much as opposed to all my thoughts, which basically no knows, family included -- they are mine.)


What I am conscious about is other's feelings. I dislike making people uncomfortable (which doesn't preclude acting in that sense, feeling =/= action), and I never quite know what to do with an abundance of external emotions, as I lack the experience or skill to deal with it. Hence typically avoiding such situations, simply because being out of your depth is an unpleasant experience, as I'm sure most will agree.
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I have a question I'd like to add to the mix:

Are ISTPs ever scared of their emotions? If you feel strongly for someone, whether romantic or platonic, are you afraid of those feelings? If you are sad, does the idea of someone else knowing it make you uncomfortable?

And if you know a friend cares intensely for you, does that bring you comfort or make you uncomfortable?
Romantic feelings, they don't scare me unless I KNOW the other person feels the same way. They do scare me because a long time a go, I got hurt pretty bad
 

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People have described me as being calm and quiet, often having little to say. I’m heavy on the “I” in ISTP and have a natural dislike of people in general. That said, I experience a lot of internal turmoil in both thoughts and emotions. I normally don’t bring those things to the fore, and generally people do not know what my sentiments are. They are very surprised if I mention experiencing an internal swirl of thoughts and feelings.

That changes when I come to know a person and tend to be a bit more free with thoughts and emotions. There is a tipping point though, where the situations warrants clear and unrestrained communication, that “no-filter” mode people speak of. We do not hesitate when it is necessary. Once I went over the top of a desk to help communicate more clearly with someone who needed clarification. I regret that happening but it certainly cleared the air.

I have no sense of being fearful of my emotions. As someone else noted, love can be a special case. It may be that we love too deeply, and a love lost is pain beyond words, as well as a wound that never heals.
 

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I thought this thread interesting because ISTPs are my cousins. I'm supposed to differ in only that ISTPs favor specifics and INTPs favor generalities. That comes from the sensual versus the intuitive cognitive function.

Hi ISTPs. You seem so rational and non emotional.
lel, all humans are emotional... even psychopaths
Then the question becomes, where do those emotions go?



You also don't seem to react as much unless it's one of those few things important to you.
Exactly. For me if I'm thinking about something, that is what is important. That is where my emotions (wishes, desires, feelings) go.



It's hard to know whether there is a sea of emotions flowing regularly through you that is unvoiced, or if what you see is really what you get? Agree, disagree? Thoughts?
Inner thoughts (Ti) are not visible unless specifically expressed via Fe.



I have a question I'd like to add to the mix:

Are ISTPs ever scared of their emotions? If you feel strongly for someone, whether romantic or platonic, are you afraid of those feelings? If you are sad, does the idea of someone else knowing it make you uncomfortable?

And if you know a friend cares intensely for you, does that bring you comfort or make you uncomfortable?
That's a good Q. Those issues are hard to apply reason to. They are evaluations. Thinking is hard to apply unless one is a specialist in that area. This could be an area where emotions aren't controlled or controllable. Yesterday from the window I saw my wife backing out badly in the driveway. She was way off the pavement. I got upset and yelled at her. Why? Because I am usually careful and didn't expect her to do that. I didn't recover until later.
 

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I see ISTPs as being very emotional, although they might not be good at showing it. Also they have that INFP super ego.
 
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