[DJArendee]

I was curious and had a few questions for ya (INTJ's only) for my own personal learning:

1. Do you like to give advice without people asking for it

2. What was their reaction

3. if answered "yes" to #1 and they gave a negative reaction, what thoughts crossed your mind?

4. if yes to #1, what was the reason for it?

5. Do you find Ti users to be very presumtuous? if so, why do you think this is?

 

[fn0rd]

1. Absolutely not.

 

[PseudoSenator]

1. No. The only exception is if we are engaged in some collective effort and they are hindering the project.

 

[Thorgar]

1. No. /roll eyes and move on.

 

[Inev1t4bl3]

1. Do you like to give advice without people asking for it?

No. unless the persons failure would impact me. For example: a co-worker on the same project I am on. I will also give advice without asking it if I know someone really well and think they need the help and would appreciate it.

2. What was their reaction?

It has varied from acceptance, to indifference, to scorn.

3. if answered "yes" to #1 and they gave a negative reaction, what thoughts crossed your mind?

When it did not impact me directly, not much. Maybe some concern for them that things would not work out how they wanted. If it did impact me, however, I wanted them to explain their position fully and to show that my concerns were invalid. If they refuse to do so, I bring it to the attention of all those involved.

4. if yes to #1, what was the reason for it?

Answered in 1.

5. Do you find Ti users to be very presumtuous? if so, why do you think this is?

I have never really thought about this. No comment at the present time.

 

[DJArendee]

1. No. /roll eyes and move on.

Did I insult you?

 

[InvisibleJim]

Unwarranted advice... no.

 

[Hemoglobin]

1. Do you like to give advice without people asking for it?

No. This would require effort...


... I am very lazy and dislike volunteering my efforts.

 

[knght990]

no

attempt at manipulative question fail

 

[Schadenfreude]

1. Do you like to give advice without people asking for it[?]
~No. Why would I? If They're not asking for it, then they probably don't need it or they might reject my advice.

 

[Malovane]

1. Do you like to give advice without people asking for it?

Not really, but sometimes people are really asking for it even if they aren't literally "asking", if you understand my meaning. Part of them really wants advice, but another part is content to sit in self-pity and self-loathing. In this case, I'll give some advice, or if it's try and lead their perspective in a certain way. Sometimes just to stop their bitching, but most times it's just aggravating seeing wasted potential.

2. What was their reaction?

Regardless of whether they ask for it or not, it's often some form of anger. Unless they're really desperate for truth, people get that way when they hear it about themselves or about how life really works. Anger comes from a sense of loss, and can be especially prevalent when it comes to an ego. But, whether they like it or not, they usually end up coming back for more. Truth is funny that way.

5. Do you find Ti users to be very presumptuous? if so, why do you think this is?

I find Ni to be a source of presumption more than Ti, as while Ni tries to predict the future.. Ti just tries to make sense of things by rationalization. Ne is probably the most presumptuous trait, as it can take a bunch of half baked ideas and from that cobble together another half baked idea - which the person (rightly or wrongly) will think is the best idea ever. Makes for some good entertainment with ENFP's.

 

[L'Empereur]

1. No. The only exception is if we are engaged in some collective effort and they are hindering the project.

This .

 

[jbking]

Answers...

1. Generally no, I prefer to be asked for advice or an opinion rather than spewing it onto the masses. However, there is the anomaly here of sharing my experiences that may come across as advice when really it is just sharing. I'm not saying "do this, it works" but rather "this worked for me" though not everyone could see the distinction here.
2. On the few times I have interjected myself, it has been good and bad. Good can be that, "Oh," reaction that lets you know that while you answered the question that wasn't asked of you, the person isn't sure what to do next. Bad can be the, "Who asked you?" or other negative remarks that led me to be a bit more quiet in the future.
3. While I didn't answer yes, the thoughts tend to be, "Gee, what did I do?" or "How do I get out of this?"
4. Sometimes I'm just too much of that good student that always wants to share with the world, which isn't necessarily always a good thing. Either that or I'm feeling bold enough to see what happens if I jump into something.
5. I'm not sure I know any Ti users, so I can't give an answer to this question.

 

[Havoc]

1. Yes, if i believe the person will be able to do the job they're engaged in more 'efficiently' (subjective to my thoughts) i will give my advice, unasked, to them.

2. Normally they react politely. They don't usually dislike me enough to want to tell me to shut up. But whatever their reaction i shrug it off because they'll do what they want with my advice after i've left.

3. Kinda the same as above in number 2, but if they do react negatively the first thought to cross my mind is probably 'Fuck you then'.

4. The reason for giving the advice? When i see someone struggling/doing something wrong/inefficiently (subjectively again) i feel a really overwhelming itch to try and correct them or atleast tell them what i would do differently.

5. Duno heh.

 

[antiant]

Here is how advice works for me:

I do not give advice to people unless asked. If I'm asked, I will become skeptical and consider what type of person you are (ie: various clues/patterns). Once in a blue moon, I'll entertain the idea of giving advice, but in a more serious situation, absolutely not. In many situations, time and time again, people come to me as their "psychologist" or personal advisor. Due to this constant fascination, I no longer give out advice unless you are a very close friend and or family.

I've noticed that a lot of people just like to vent and when it becomes consistent venting/problems/issues/victimization mentality then you will drain me, at which point, I will disappear or not have anything to do with you. I become very impatient and at some point, I will start to become very hostile toward you or completely disengage depending on the circumstance. I usually resent people who constantly seek advice and don't take heed of it because you are wasting my time and I see this as using me as well as not being a mutual relationship. If all you do is come to me to vent and seek advice, then our relationship with each other will not last long because it is one sided.

 

[Filo]

1: Only when it is either my job to give advice (I have a rather senior position and am expected to make the juniors better), when people explicitly or implicitly ask for it, or, very rarely, when a friend needs it. In this latter case, I do not like giving advice.

In fact, in general, I don't really like giving advice at all, even if asked for, unless I'm a specialist in the subject.

 

[Excido]

1. Do you like to give advice without people asking for it

No

 

[lirulin]

I don't like to give advice, exactly, though it can look that way to those who take suggestions and ideas more seriously than they are intended. The basis of my thought is stored as opinions - doesn't mean I don't recognise that many are imperfect still. Suggestions and perspective maybe, but I never expect or intend for anyone to do anything I say unless it makes sense to them. It is their decision after all and if it is their problem, then they probably have more information than I do. I don't mind offering potentially useful information either, but I'm not sure that's the same thing as advice. A lot of people over the years have fallen into a pattern of telling me their problems, and what the hell else do I say? I am not big on the "emotional support" bit, whatever that means. So I have to say something, and usually it is in the form of analysis. It may not be their first choice, and a few look a little petulant, but no one has lashed out at me. And most people get to know my usual pattern so don't expect cuddles in lieu of logic.

Ti - it annoys me. It is very much at cross purposes with Ni in terms of communication. I find it far too limiting, they find Ni not nearly specific enough. Ti users can be awesome though.

 

[GeoGirl]

No. If someone wants my advice, they should ask for it. I hate wasting my time. If they don't ask and keep complaining, I'll either just get up and walk away or make an excuse to leave.

 

[IncredibleMouse]

No. If they do ask for it: "Release the Kraken!"