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I'm curious to know if this is just a human thing, related to type or functions.

I'll give an example to help explain. In one of my uni classes we were simulating a mock group interview, and the aim was to give feedback on how we work in groups and what things companies are looking for when looking for graduates.

What I found interesting was before we were given the task I felt like I knew how I was supposed to be. That is how I was supposed to conduct my self, interact with others, what things show good group/team work and taking initiative. No I did not systematically go through my head what I had to do, it was I just a sense of how to be and then becoming this.


Other times I can feel like I'm wearing someone else's face. Well it's more how I am in that moment I think is imitating others mannerisms and I see that persons face in my minds eye. It's like in that moment I have become them. I am doing what they do, saying things like they say. That person does not need to be around me for this to happen, I can be completely alone (So I'm not simply mirroring the person in front of me).
 

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Intuitively grasping what to do without having to be told is typical Ni.
 
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Intuitively grasping what to do without having to be told is typical Ni.
Interesting. Sometime I feel like I just make stuff up and more often than not it works.



I'm curious what you think may lead to these thought patterns.


I don't know why but I was observing people around we, I guess me just tired with the hustle and bustle of life in a rush to be somewhere or have some task completed, to which I paused to stop and look around. In my minds eye I saw a woman wearing a ragged grey dress, a bandage wrapped around her head covering her eyes. All monochrom except fr the bood on the bandages.

I just had a sense that every one around me was traveling somewhere, be it space or time. Just on fast forward yet completely blind to it all. No question to where they are traveling, and more important why they are taking that path they are taking.

Later thinking about this and that question of what the destination was, the idea that came to me was at the end is death. That's where our paths lead and yet so many people are busy in a rush to get to the end. What is the rush? What's the point? Do people ask themselves these questions or are they just traveling blind never stopping to consider which path they want?



Another thought I had. I saw a disabled man. He seemed happy, just not right in the head. It really stooped me that all I am capable of seeing and understanding is limited by my brain. It felt so limiting that I can never understand what is really happening in the world. That I can never see any truth, only what my brain allows. It was this idea Spent some time contemplating.

I then later summise perhaps the truth to all this is I don't like facing my own mortality.
 

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Yeah, strong Ni--lots of symbolic language, disjointed thoughts. I'd guess INFJ, because your questioning suggests Ti in your writing style as well.
 

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Yeah, strong Ni--lots of symbolic language, disjointed thoughts. I'd guess INFJ, because your questioning suggests Ti in your writing style as well.
I find this interesting because I have an INFJ friend IRL (well she claims to be) and in some ways we are quite different.
I find she is more emotional than me, how she communicates her upset is often through behaviour or small cues (rather than just saying she's upset). Things like being upset at her partner for not doing something together valentines (even though agreeing to not do something) baffles me.

When I'm upset my initial reaction is inwards, why am I upset? What insecurity may I have that is being triggered? More looking for my inner truth than externally blaming others.

I don't care so much about festivities like valentines (to me celebrating that day is somewhat buying into commercialism, and does not show how much someone cares). I think this is why I thought Fi over Fe.
 

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I find this interesting because I have an INFJ friend IRL (well she claims to be) and in some ways we are quite different.
I find she is more emotional than me, how she communicates her upset is often through behaviour or small cues (rather than just saying she's upset). Things like being upset at her partner for not doing something together valentines (even though agreeing to not do something) baffles me.

When I'm upset my initial reaction is inwards, why am I upset? What insecurity may I have that is being triggered? More looking for my inner truth than externally blaming others.

I don't care so much about festivities like valentines (to me celebrating that day is somewhat buying into commercialism, and does not show how much someone cares). I think this is why I thought Fi over Fe.
INTJ could be a possibility.


Fi vs Fe: Is your moral code formed internally within yourself, or do you take on the moral codes of the crowd?

Let's say you saw a robber trying to rob an old lady, and everybody caught the robber and they beat him up, would you go with the crowd's moral codes and think the robber deserves it, or would you start sympathizing with the robber despite not agreeing to his ways?
 

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INTJ could be a possibility.


Fi vs Fe: Is your moral code formed internally within yourself, or do you take on the moral codes of the crowd?
I'm not quite sure. I know I don't agree with everything that society upholds as being right (But I'm sure Fe is not going to blindly agree with the crowd). This could be Fi as I do have my an opinions.

What has me questioning this was how Fi is able to resist external influence on their feelings, where as Fe is influenced.
There are things I'll see and I can not help but feel like I'm stepping in the shoes of that person. It disturbs me. I don't think my feelings are resisting the object in these cases. This is something that seems to have increased since my early 20s.


Let's say you saw a robber trying to rob an old lady, and everybody caught the robber and they beat him up, would you go with the crowd's moral codes and think the robber deserves it, or would you start sympathizing with the robber despite not agreeing to his ways?
I would take the ground one's actions, be it mine our others, are accepting that these actions are ok to be done back to us. To me the robber think's it's ok to rob, therefore it is ok for someone to rob from him. I would have little sympathy if someone were to rob him.
I do not agree with the crowd here, I do not think the crime of theft deserves the punishment of being beat up. The robber wasn't beating anyone up. (I don't like violence much myself)

Well that's usually where my moral reasoning begins, things start getting grey when I'm thinking less about what's happened but focus more on the circumstance, why did he rob? What would possess someone to do this? What's his situation? People who are happy with life don't go around robbing...

This then get's me thinking, why are people able to fall into a desperate situation in society? We as a human race have the opportunity to do something great, to feed everyone, ensure we are all content with life, able to give people the opportunity to pursue their passions, yet all we have achieved is creating a greedy system where people theoretically placed in a situation they feel a need to rob and a theoretical crowd that want to beat people up. This leads to my theoretical disappointment.
I don't have answers but I can see how it could be better.
 

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I'm not quite sure. I know I don't agree with everything that society upholds as being right (But I'm sure Fe is not going to blindly agree with the crowd). This could be Fi as I do have my an opinions.

What has me questioning this was how Fi is able to resist external influence on their feelings, where as Fe is influenced.
There are things I'll see and I can not help but feel like I'm stepping in the shoes of that person. It disturbs me. I don't think my feelings are resisting the object in these cases. This is something that seems to have increased since my early 20s.




I would take the ground one's actions, be it mine our others, are accepting that these actions are ok to be done back to us. To me the robber think's it's ok to rob, therefore it is ok for someone to rob from him. I would have little sympathy if someone were to rob him.
I do not agree with the crowd here, I do not think the crime of theft deserves the punishment of being beat up. The robber wasn't beating anyone up. (I don't like violence much myself)

Well that's usually where my moral reasoning begins, things start getting grey when I'm thinking less about what's happened but focus more on the circumstance, why did he rob? What would possess someone to do this? What's his situation? People who are happy with life don't go around robbing...

This then get's me thinking, why are people able to fall into a desperate situation in society? We as a human race have the opportunity to do something great, to feed everyone, ensure we are all content with life, able to give people the opportunity to pursue their passions, yet all we have achieved is creating a greedy system where people theoretically placed in a situation they feel a need to rob and a theoretical crowd that want to beat people up. This leads to my theoretical disappointment.
I don't have answers but I can see how it could be better.

Your answer here sounds Fe ;) I think INFJ fits.

The way you focused more on his circumstance and start questioning his reason behind his robbing and try to rationalize everything, that part is very Ni, you have this tendency to shift perspectives and try to analyze things from a different angle, you are able to detach yourself from everything and then view things from an objective impersonal way.

But the part where you mentioned that you have little sympathy for the robber if someone were to rob him because if he robs others then he deserves to be robbed back, this part actually seems Fe. An Fi type would feel angered by what the robber did, but as much as they feel angered by the robber, they would also feel sympathy for the robber at the same time. Fi types usually have this motto, "Treat others the way you want to be treated" so if they saw a robber being robbed by others, they would still go over and help out despite feeling disgusted with the robber's immoral ways earlier, because if an Fi type were to be in a similar situation, they know that they would want others to help them out.
 

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Your answer here sounds Fe ;) I think INFJ fits.

The way you focused more on his circumstance and start questioning his reason behind his robbing and try to rationalize everything, that part is very Ni, you have this tendency to shift perspectives and try to analyze things from a different angle, you are able to detach yourself from everything and then view things from an objective impersonal way.

But the part where you mentioned that you have little sympathy for the robber if someone were to rob him because if he robs others then he deserves to be robbed back, this part actually seems Fe. An Fi type would feel angered by what the robber did, but as much as they feel angered by the robber, they would also feel sympathy for the robber at the same time. Fi types usually have this motto, "Treat others the way you want to be treated" so if they saw a robber being robbed by others, they would still go over and help out despite feeling disgusted with the robber's immoral ways earlier, because if an Fi type were to be in a similar situation, they know that they would want others to help them out.
Thanks for this, I like how you explained your reasoning :)

I'm not sure if I would say the robber deserves to be robbed, more the robber thinks it is ok to take something from someone. If the robber is robbed then I wouldn't care because the robber is ok with the idea of taking something from someone. I don't get of like the idea of double standards.
 
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