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I'm hoping to get advice from those who have done long-distance job searching both domestically and internationally. I have read so much about the topic online and have my resume perfected (including the whole non-local address issue), but there's still a struggle. Right now I'm unemployed and recently graduated (with an employable degree, thankfully). I thought I knew what I wanted for my life a mere 4-5 months ago and now, I have absolutely no idea. I do know, however, that I'm very willing to move out of my current city/state and try somewhere new for awhile (no idea how long- it's part of the journey). I started out by applying to job opportunities related to my intended career in 5 different cities that I'm willing to relocate to immediately (2 of which aren't even in the U.S.). However, the jobs available to my intended career path and even my major are of course limited in this economy, so I even started to look into the Peace Corps and volunteer organizations abroad. Or even just dropping everything to travel for 2-3 months.

My strategy in taking this approach initially (for the first month) was to try many different options and just see which one naturally "works itself out". This way I'm not stressing about it, I'm just trying things and seeing which will work itself out. Now, however, I'm questioning this approach and how effective it is. Should I do more soul-searching, narrow my options down to a few locations/opportunities and then do the searching? I'm completely open to moving to all of the metropolitan cities I have in mind, but I worry that my job search will be endless if I don't start focusing in more.

Any general advice would be appreciated. For job searching long-distance and/or just for figuring out what to do with your life post-graduation.
 

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What you should do is the eternal soul search.

As far as strategies, it might depend on the field you're shooting for. Mind sharing?
So I "should" go about this soul-search before I even start creating my job search strategy?

I'm looking to go into business analytics and/or research. I already have a lot of research experience (both applied and academic) on my resume so it'll be more difficult to go into a tangential area.
 

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There's a few jobs within your postings that are fitting, but I'm looking to work outside of academia in an applied setting. Almost everything I've applied for has been within business or professional services.
 

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Any general advice would be appreciated. For job searching long-distance and/or just for figuring out what to do with your life post-graduation.
1) First, on every cover letter you send out, state how you are willing to relocate for employment. Employers, I dare say, don't always think the resume's through and just pitch them in the bin because you don't live nearby.

When I first started my search, I had one employer ask if I was willing to relocate... I had thought it was an obvious fact since I did not live nearby, but apparently, it was not obvious to them.

So just put it on the cover letter, either in the first paragraph or the last.

2) State what type of interview you are willing to do. Can you travel to that foreign city for a face-to-face interview? Would you rather do a skype interview before you do a face to face? State your interest in an interview, and if you can, give some guidance on what kind of interview you would like to do at first.

3) Don't write a big spiel on your cover letter. From my experience, it is actually the opposite of what colleges teach. They teach you to do very specific cover letters, after doing company research. I sent out 80 applications in about 2 months to get my job. There is no way I would have had time to do what the colleges told me to do for all 80 applications. Keeping it short and sweet, while following simple guidelines is the way to go because you can churn out quantities of applications that way.

This totally depends how you want to do your job search, though. If you want to limit your opportunities and focus-in on the best jobs, doing what the colleges suggest is a better approach.

The problem with focusing-in, is that your job search will take longer. If it takes X applications sent before you get your job, then reducing the number of applications you send out, means you have to wait longer, even if you improve your odds.

With my situation, I had about 2 to 4 jobs per weekday come up that I could apply for in my state. That meant, if I went with the quality approach, I would miss out on job applications because I couldn't do 4 applications a day the way the college wanted me to. Rather, a short and sweet cover letter allowed me to turn out the applications so I could hit all the jobs I was interested in.

I can see the advantage to both approaches, but I honestly wasn't that picky about which job I wanted, and God blessed me with the best job out of those I applied for.

4) When applying, figure out the best way to get the resume to the company. Many of the search engine job posting sites, simply find the job postings online and re-post them on their website. If you apply on their website, like careerbuilder.com many, many times, the application will never even be viewed.

It's better to find the company's website, and apply through that, or mail / email the company directly with the application.

I preferred to send out physical resume / cover letters on paper as much as I could. It seemed to me, that at least someone would open the mail and view it. Where as with a regular email it could be deleted without being viewed. With other applications it's even less likely to be viewed.

The exception being large corporations that have formal application processes on their websites. Those, I always completed because that's how their HR system worked if you wanted to get hired.

5) I got hired through a recruiting agency, so check those out for your industry if you can. It's nice having a company sell your skill-set to an employer. In my case, they talked me up, and presented me as a contender out of 3 other candidates, which is nice because it really narrows the odds and got me in for an interview.

6) Calling them is not a bad idea if you can find an excuse to call and talk to them. I did not do it, but it's a good idea if you can manage it somehow. I imagine, some employers don't even consider you until you've made contact with them over the phone. Then on the other hand, some of those I did call, did not want me to call. One lady declined that I be allowed to talk to HR, it was a "we'll call you, don't call us," kind of thing you get with larger employers. I gave up calling after that and focused on volume.

7) Prepare beforehand for your interview questions. You need to know them because when they call your phone, you'll likely be asked, "Do you have time to speak now?" And you'll find yourself in a phone interview.

You need to know the responses to the top 10 interview questions by heart.

At first, for me, reciting them was kind of clunky, but after I had a few interviews, it became relatively easy.

8) "There's always another job out there." This was how I prevented myself from getting discouraged. I would have a really great interview and then nothing would happen after I got all psyched up about it. I eventually got the point where I enjoyed applying places, and discovering all the great possibilities out there.
 

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There's a few jobs within your postings that are fitting, but I'm looking to work outside of academia in an applied setting. Almost everything I've applied for has been within business or professional services.
Okay I misinterpreted your initial post as indicating a desire to work & still have ample spare time to pursue a thorough soul searching.

Maybe you'd consider taking a position as either a market research analyst or a career pertaining to applied sociology?
You could try out a temporary assistant position to see whether or not the field is a good fit. You'd likely earn enough income to support yourself & still have ample spare time to conduct a significant level of soul searching.
 

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Numbers 1 and 2 are really good pointers for job searching long-distance. Would putting my willingness to relocate on the first line be better than the last? If I put it first, I could risk employers throwing it out right away because they don't want to interview someone out-of-state. However, it gets to the point and let's them know upfront.
 

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1) First, on every cover letter you send out, state how you are willing to relocate for employment. Employers, I dare say, don't always think the resume's through and just pitch them in the bin because you don't live nearby.

When I first started my search, I had one employer ask if I was willing to relocate... I had thought it was an obvious fact since I did not live nearby, but apparently, it was not obvious to them.

So just put it on the cover letter, either in the first paragraph or the last.

2) State what type of interview you are willing to do. Can you travel to that foreign city for a face-to-face interview? Would you rather do a skype interview before you do a face to face? State your interest in an interview, and if you can, give some guidance on what kind of interview you would like to do at first.
These are really good pointers for job searching long-distance. Would putting my willingness to relocate on the first line be better than the last? If I put it first, I could risk employers throwing it out right away because they don't want to interview someone out-of-state. However, it gets to the point and let's them know upfront.

I might even get a PO box when I go visit one of these cities in the upcoming weeks. That way I can use a local address without using a friend's and being deceitful.
 

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Okay I misinterpreted your initial post as indicating a desire to work & still have ample spare time to pursue a thorough soul searching.

Maybe you'd consider taking a position as either a market research analyst or a career pertaining to applied sociology?
You could try out a temporary assistant position to see whether or not the field is a good fit. You'd likely earn enough income to support yourself & still have ample spare time to conduct a significant level of soul searching.
Hmm. Yeah, I was envisioning doing soul searching now or while job searching before jumping into anything. I could take a temp. or contract job though I suppose. Finding it within a niche like this could be tricky, but worth a shot. I've done a lot of temporary research assistant jobs/internships, so the next move is probably a full-time analyst role (where I can manage my own projects completely). Going into a full-time role with the mindset of it being temporary (around 6 months to 2 years) isn't exactly desirable for one's career development/resume and professional relationships, is it?
 

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Hmm. Yeah, I was envisioning doing soul searching now or while job searching before jumping into anything. I could take a temp. or contract job though I suppose. Finding it within a niche like this could be tricky, but worth a shot. I've done a lot of temporary research assistant jobs/internships, so the next move is probably a full-time analyst role (where I can manage my own projects completely). Going into a full-time role with the mindset of it being temporary (around 6 months to 2 years) isn't exactly desirable for one's career development/resume and professional relationships, is it?
You're a grown woman, what I think ought to be irrelevant to the direction that you pursue a career.
You asked for general advice & I provided very limited advice along with a few possible leads.
It's likely that you've a good idea which field you'll seek a career & much better leads than any of us could suggest.

Good luck with your searches, I hope you're successful with both & enjoy a life filled with happiness.
 

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These are really good pointers for job searching long-distance. Would putting my willingness to relocate on the first line be better than the last? If I put it first, I could risk employers throwing it out right away because they don't want to interview someone out-of-state. However, it gets to the point and let's them know upfront.

I might even get a PO box when I go visit one of these cities in the upcoming weeks. That way I can use a local address without using a friend's and being deceitful.
That's a good idea. I think putting it on the resume fixes the problem for most instances, though. Top, or bottom, I don't think matters because if they're going to pitch it on that basis, they'll pitch it either way.
 
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