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I think I know my type but I'd like to see what others think to help me clarify. To reduce bias, I won't reveal my perceived type unless it proves to be helpful at a later time.

0. Is there anything that may affect the way you answer the questions? For example, a stressful time, mental illness, medications, special life circumstances? Other useful information includes sex, age, and current state of mind.

-I am a female millennial raised in a traditional Asian family. Thus, I have been conditioned to respect my elders and authority (even though I might not inwardly respect them). Also, diligence and giving back to the community are core values that I've been raised under and was expected to adopt as my own. I am expected to act a proper way-- ladylike and ready to help out in the family with chores and cooking. Disobeying superiors/elders/adults is perceived as disrespect, and can bring shame to my family (especially parents) since they have a 'disrespectful' daughter in the family. Thus, to avoid conflict, I usually comply with social expectations, even if it doesn't make sense to me. Once in a while, I'd challenge them, and get puzzled looks or a scolding/lecture in return.

1. Click on this link: Flickr: Explore! Look at the random photo for about 30 seconds. Copy and paste it here, and write about your impression of it.
*The site won't let me post the picture or its link because I don't have enough posts yet. But the name of the photo was 2nd sunrise by hitohira_

This person has a bird's eye view of the clouds and the mountains. At the highest (a higher?) peak, they are able to stand above entities that once towered over them. This is assuming they climbed the mountain. But who knows, maybe they've been raised on the peak their entire life, and this kind of view of the sunrise is all they know.

2. You are with a group of people in a car, heading to a different town to see your favourite band/artist/musician. Suddenly, the car breaks down for an unknown reason in the middle of nowhere. What are your initial thoughts? What are your outward reactions?
Thoughts: I wonder what's wrong with this car. Is it old and it's time for it to go? Was it the way the driver drove? Can we fix it?
Reactions: Calm, as others freak out.

3. You somehow make it to the concert. The driver wants to go to the afterparty that was announced (and assure you they won't drink so they can drive back later). How do you feel about this party? What do you do?
No. I'm not going to the party. They can go, but I'll just find a different ride home. If I can't find a ride home, I'll explore the town by myself while the driver parties.

4. On the drive back, your friends are talking. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward reaction? What do you outwardly say?
Inward reaction: "Why do you think that?" or "That's not true" (if the claim is actually a false statement)
Outwardly says: Nothing, unless the friend said something extreme like "people who do X deserve to die", or ridiculous like genuinely claiming that the earth is flat. Then I would have to correct them.

5. What would you do if you actually saw/experienced something that clashes with your previous beliefs, experiences, and habits?
I'd rethink my beliefs to see if they were reasonable. If not, then I'd research the thing that clashed against my beliefs. If my beliefs were reasonable, I'd try to think of reasons why that something isn't true/unreasonable.

6. What are some of your most important values? How did you come about determining them? How can they change?
Independence, family, peace, knowledge, kindness. I don't know how I determined them, but I guess I kind of just know. Perhaps because it'd be fairly difficult for me to compromise them unless it's more advantageous at the situation to let them go. My values can adapt and evolve if I find convincing reasons to change.

7. a) What about your personality most distinguishes you from everyone else? b) If you could change one thing about you personality, what would it be? Why?
a) Wait, this is hard to think of because anything I say could be similar to "everyone else." If "everyone else" means relative to the people around me, then I overanalyze things and can't seem to live in the here and the now. I think too much, even to the point that I have trouble falling asleep.
b) I like who I am, but I wish I was more personable had was more of a people-person. I can't hold a steady steam of conversation and can't stand small talk. But that's how a lot of people connect with each other and get closer to each other. Also, that would mean that I'd be less insensitive and maybe more likable because of that.

8. How do you treat hunches or gut feelings? In what situations are they most often triggered?
It depends. I try to trust them, but I end up second guessing myself, even though most of the time, my hunch was right. I guess I'm afraid of being wrong. The hunches are often triggered during unknown situations, where there's not enough evidence to know what's going to happen next. They are also triggered in daily life, like trying to figure out how to assemble something from IKEA (I never read the manuals) or fix a broken appliance.

9. a) What activities energize you most? b) What activities drain you most? Why?
a) Writing (about topics that interest me), stimulating conversations, listening to music, playing the piano/ukulele, etc.
b) Loud parties, dealing with needy people, too much detail oriented work in one setting (my current part time job involves clerical work)
Why? I am a low-energy person and too much extroversion is too demanding and not worth the effort.

10. What do you repress about your outward behavior or internal thought process when around others? Why?
I tend to repress talking about topics that truly interest me like the cognitive function theory, philosophy, religion, etc. because I've learned that most people around me don't care about that stuff and lose interest if I bring up those topics. Sometimes they pretend to be interested, but then change the subject to something else like sports or what so-and-so's boyfriend did. I found that unless the other person is actually interested in the topics that intrigues me or I try to follow their interests, the conversation will just die and there's no point. So I tend to just listen most of the time, or pretend to listen if the topic is too shallow.

Thanks for your input and let me know if you need further info.
 

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You're familiar with cognitive function theory, what separates you from being an INTP?
 

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You're familiar with cognitive function theory, what separates you from being an INTP?
At first, it was difficult for me to distinguish between dominant Ti (INTP) and dominant Fi (INFP), because I kept mixing up values with principles and vice versa. I was certain about the presence of Ne, but not sure about the dominant function. Also, there were many times when I thought I was an ISFJ because people say that I am very similar to my mom (an ISFJ) when I interact with people. But then I realized that people can only see my extroverted functions when interacting with them (Ne and Fe), and I tend to suppress my Ne to fit in with everyone else better, making it seem that I use. When I thought I was an ISFJ, and questioned my conclusion, I wondered if it was influenced by some of the negative stereotypes/descriptions about ISFJs, rather than the possibility of me being a Ti dom/Ne aux.
 

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INFJ, heavy on Ti.
 
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Just curious, but which parts in my post made you think this? :happy:
Not the same user, but my guess they typed you as INFJ because:

- Your response on hunches, which is often associated with Ni-doms. Being Ni-dom as well, INTJ would naturally be another valid guess. Personally, I didn't see Te in your responses, so I am tempted to rule out INTJ for now.

- Being a low energy person with little interest in extroversion. Some say INFJs get tired very quickly of extroversion or forced socialization, feeling the need to shut themselves down in order to regain balance and energy. Now this goes for introverts in general, but I read INFJs have even less tolerance to needless socialization than other types. I can relate.

- Your reaction to a clash of beliefs would be to reevaluate your beliefs, rather than confront the person sharing diverging views. Not only that, but rather than voicing your values, you would rather stay silent (at first). This suggests Fe as opposed to Fi, as Fi users are more hung up on their values and more likely to confront diverging views, at least at first. Like INFJs, you could have Fe as your auxiliary function. A strong Ti user would possibly not resist the urge to point out inconsistencies with the beliefs, if they saw any. You do say you would correct the friend if they said something like "the Earth is flat", which is an illogical statement and would most likely rustle the jimmies of a Ti user (it would bother the hell out of me, for sure), but that doesn't seem like dominant Ti to me. Tertiary Ti isn't a stretch. I am not sure how a Te user would react, but something tells me staying silent and reevaluating their values wouldn't be it.

- "I overanalyze things and can't seem to live in the here and the now. I think too much, even to the point that I have trouble falling asleep." Could be the work of Ni-Se. Strong Ni makes you think too much about possibilities and the future, even the past, taking you away from what actually matters, the present. The lack of care towards your physical needs, like sleeping, is similar to how inferior Se manifests. Heck, I am going through that right now (I have slept what, one and a half hours in the last twenty four hours?). Also, my heads hurts and I am totally ignoring it.

Again, just guesses. INFJ doesn't seem like a stretch to me.

Miss @ceruleanblue, give this questionnaire a try, if you feel like it.
 

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- Being a low energy person with little interest in extroversion. Some say INFJs get tired very quickly of extroversion or forced socialization, feeling the need to shut themselves down in order to regain balance and energy. Now this goes for introverts in general, but I read INFJs have even less tolerance to needless socialization than other types. I can relate.
This is due to inferior Fe.
How Functions Work: Inferior Fe (ISTP/INTP) - Type Theory

This is inferior Se - completely different.
How Functions Work: Inferior Se (INTJ/INFJ) - Type Theory

All introverts require alone time to recharge and regain balance in their mind.
The INFJs who complain about socialising and having to extrovert for more than 5 minutes, aren't INFJs.

A great book to read regarding inferior functions is "Was That Really Me?" by Naomi Quenk, it's in the Amazon Kindle shop.

- Your reaction to a clash of beliefs would be to reevaluate your beliefs, rather than confront the person sharing diverging views. Not only that, but rather than voicing your values, you would rather stay silent (at first). This suggests Fe as opposed to Fi, as Fi users are more hung up on their values and more likely to confront diverging views, at least at first. Like INFJs, you could have Fe as your auxiliary function. A strong Ti user would possibly not resist the urge to point out inconsistencies with the beliefs, if they saw any. You do say you would correct the friend if they said something like "the Earth is flat", which is an illogical statement and would most likely rustle the jimmies of a Ti user (it would bother the hell out of me, for sure), but that doesn't seem like dominant Ti to me. Tertiary Ti isn't a stretch. I am not sure how a Te user would react, but something tells me staying silent and reevaluating their values wouldn't be it.
Fi users are not more likely to express how they're feeling inside than Fe users, by definition, their feelings are introverted.
Far less confrontational than Fe users who prefer to express what's inside, more heart on sleeve.

I won't touch the Ti section because it's entirely hypotheticals based on your own subjective interpretation of Ti.
What are your sources, with regards to the reasoning behind what you've said about Ti, here?

- "I overanalyze things and can't seem to live in the here and the now. I think too much, even to the point that I have trouble falling asleep." Could be the work of Ni-Se. Strong Ni makes you think too much about possibilities and the future, even the past, taking you away from what actually matters, the present. The lack of care towards your physical needs, like sleeping, is similar to how inferior Se manifests. Heck, I am going through that right now (I have slept what, one and a half hours in the last twenty four hours?). Also, my heads hurts and I am totally ignoring it.
This supports lower Si, not Se.
How Functions Work: Inferior Si (ENTP/ENFP) - Type Theory

I don't, however, believe Si is the OPs inferior function, the OP is likely an INTP who has repressed their Ne (literally says it in an above post) due to their living situation.
I would consider INFP as well.
 

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Alright, Turi. Those were just my two cents. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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Just curious, but which parts in my post made you think this? :happy:
1. Judging by your post, your introversion seems to be self-evident.
2. You're an intuitive because you're interested in things that deal with abstractions rather than concrete facts. Judging by the relative grammatical, structural and logical coherency of your post, I'd say you're a Ni user. Usually, Ne users your age are not as concise.
3. Your values are empathetic; you do not shy away from expressing them. That suggests Fe.
4. Because your judging function is extroverted, you're a judging type. That makes you an INFJ.
 
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Miss @ceruleanblue, give this questionnaire a try, if you feel like it.
1. Is there anything that may affect the way you answer the questions? For example, a stressful time, mental illness, medications, special life circumstances? Other useful information includes sex, age, and current state of mind.
In addition to what I posted earlier, maybe another relevant part of my upbringing was my emotionally/verbally abusive father. Now, he's a lot better, but growing up, he used fear to control my mom and used her as a scapegoat for his problems, even if she had nothing to do with it. Thus, I grew up with this fear that if I disobey my father, me or my mom would get falsely accused and even hurt (even if not physically)

2. Study these two images here and here. Which one do you prefer and why? How would you describe it?
(Sorry, the links will probably not work because I don't have enough posts)

I prefer the first image because it's more aesthetically pleasing to me than the second one and I guess I prefer photos about nature than man or man-made things. It relaxes my eyes, or I guess just any picture with a horizon or patterns in nature does.

3. Please describe yourself as a person if you were to introduce yourself to someone else like in a cover letter. What kind of person are you and why?

Analytical: When assessing a problem, I look at it from multiple angles and try to figure out why the problem is the way it is. I don't just accept facts; I need to do extensive research on the whys.
Adaptable: Unless it's a drastic change in roles or plans, I am okay with change, as long as it's reasonable for having it.
Optimistic: I try to keep a positive attitude most of the time. If we're all going to die at the end anyways, you might as well try to enjoy your life than always grumbling about it. It's more meaningful that way.
Responsible: For work/school related tasks at least, I can't bring myself to leave it incomplete. It has to be completed and quality work. (given that I have enough time to make it high quality. If there are other obligations, I do the minimum amount of work required to pass). Not a big fan of BSing my way through as the main mode of surviving school/work. I follow deadlines because if I don't, there might be unfavorable consequences that will give me a difficult time in the future.

4. What kind of person would you LIKE to be? Why? What kind of person would you NOT want to be? Why?
I'd like to be someone who in some way or form, contributes to the betterment of humanity. It doesn't have to be through direct person-to-person contact, but something that will help others in a benevolent way. So, I'd prefer being the researcher who discovered a breakthrough in medicine, rather than a top-performing salesperson bringing revenue for an insurance company that keeps its profits for itself.

5. Do you think there are any differences to how you described yourself and how people actually perceive you? How do you think others would describe you? If there are any discrepancies between these two that are you are aware of; do you know why exactly that is?
Unfortunately, very few people have seen my "intellectual" side. A lot of it is hidden inside, unless prompted by a stimulating conversation. Then, I would jump right in and start talking so much that people get amused that a quiet person is all of a sudden speaking so fast and in large amounts. At first glance, most people would probably describe me a nice, awkward, book-smart nerd. Some people even describe me as sweet or innocent, but I don't know why they think that. I don't actively go out of my way to be nice to the point of sweetness. For innocence, maybe because I'm not interested in talking about topics like sex or drugs (unless in a academic/scientific point of view) and I have a clean record (never got in trouble with the law, never had substance abuse issues, never dated anyone)?

6. What in life do you find to be of importance? Why? If you are unsure you can always take the Value Test and post the results here. Do note that it helps if you narrow it down to 20 or ideally 10 values as suggested at stage 2.
Peace. Peace within the world and peace within myself. A genuine peace in which all parties can rest and not worry about conflict. Peace so that we can try to work towards bettering ourselves and others instead of promoting our own self interest.

7. How do you react to new situations in your life? Can you describe an event in your life where you were in an unknown situation? How did you deal with it?

8. Please describe yourself when you are in a stressful situation. How do you act and why? Real life experiences are welcome.
When I'm stressed, I can't focus properly, and stop being productive. So I realize that there's no point in trying to think about the situation at the moment if my mind is overwhelmed. When moderately stressed, I try to take my mind off of the thing that's making me stressed, like watching a video, playing my ukulele, or eating sweets. When I'm extremely stressed, I found that I experience an explosion of tears and/or emotions.

9. Please describe yourself when you are in an enjoyable situation. How do you act and why? Real life experiences are welcome.
In an enjoyable situation, I am engaged in it and able to fully participate, be it a discussion or a physical activity like taking a walk. For a situation to be enjoyable, my mind needs to be relaxed and not hyperactive with thoughts and ideas. If there are people involved, we need to be on a similar, if not the same, wavelength. If I had to choose between hosting a house party with a range of friends and acquaintances and chatting with one trusted person over a bottle of wine at my house, I'd choose the latter. It'd be far more enjoyable to me that the first.

10. Describe your relationship to socialization. How do you perceive one-on-one interaction? How do you perceive group interaction?
I have a love/hate relationship with socialization. I value my independence, but I don't think I can live without people. I prefer not socializing unless it's necessary or it's with people that are enjoyable to be with. I definitely enjoy one-on-ones better than groups because you get to dive deeper with that person. The exception for groups is if it's a smaller group, and we are similar minded. Socialization for the sake of socialization sounds draining.

11. Describe your relationship to society. What are the elements of it you hold important or unimportant (e.g. social norms, values, customs, traditions)? How do you see people as a whole?

I think I'm more of an observer of society than a participant. Decency and community are important, I guess, but I have a hard time seeing the purpose behind many traditions, standards, etc. Who says that males have to act a certain way and females another? Why should I ask "How are you?" if you're just going to respond with "Good, how are you," and I have to say "good" as a way to greet? If there are so many problems with society, why is it strongly against change? If there is room for improvement, why not make it better? (when I ask that to some people, they respond with "that's just the way it is." <<< One of the worst ways to answer me haha)

People as a whole are the same. It just depends on what they're seeking. We are all searching for some sort of truth and some sort of meaning. This can be truth behind principles, truth behind human relationships, truth, about ourselves. We want to have control, whether over our own thoughts or emotions or of the external world. We are flawed in our own ways, but it's unfortunate that we tend to be quick to magnify the flaws of others rather than seeing the faults within us.

12. Describe your relationship to authority. How do you perceive authority? What does it mean to you, and how do you deal with it?
After being raised by Asian values and living with the "dark side" of Te (father was an unhealthy ENTJ throughout my childhood), I've learned to just go with it, unless there is enough consensus by others to effectively confront the authority. Authority is ultimately a reflection of the people and/or the culture who placed this person/entity into power. The culture and environment the authority lives in allowed them to rise to power in the first place, rather than the authority so-called "stepping on the little guys to get to the top."

When I was a child, I used to think that people of authority were benevolent. Police officers were supposed to help people. Presidents were supposed to care about the country and its residents. Parents were supposed to love their children. But now I realize how naive I was and reality is far from the truth. There are police officers that are involved in shooting certain marginalized individuals. There are presidents who only care about the status of being a president. There are parents who abandon their children.

As for me, I just try to stay out of trouble so that my freedom won't be forced away.

13. Describe your relationship to order and chaos. What do order and chaos mean to you? How do they manifest in your daily life?
I often see order and chaos as two ends of a spectrum of clarity. The more a concept, the intentions of someone, idea, situation, etc. makes sense to me, the more order there is within myself. The less things make sense and the less I'm able to understand it, the more chaos there is.

14. What is it that you fear in life? Why? How does this fear manifest to you both in how you think and how you act?
Fears--
Rejection: I know I shouldn't be too caught up by what others think of me, but I think I'm scared of not being able to be accepted by others and ultimately being isolated. So I tend to conceal parts of myself that seems too 'unconventional' for the other party. I also try to keep a friendly attitude and avoid coming across as 'bitchy.'

15. What is it that you desire in life? What do you strive to achieve? Why? Where do you think these drives and desires stem from or are inspired by?
I desire finding a career that allows me to use my strengths and interests to contribute to the betterment of this messed up society. I'm pressured by my working class family to just go into the corporate world, land a stable 9-5 job that pays well, and plan for my retirement. Since they noticed my strong analytical/research skills and knack for problem solving, they pushed me to go into accounting/finance/economics. While I understand that they don't want me to live in poverty like they did and want a better future for me, living a 'normal' life just doesn't appeal to me. They keep trying to convince me that I can still 'help people' by filling out their tax returns for them or becoming a rich business woman and donating money. They're not wrong, but that's not satisfying.

16. a) What activities energize you most? b) What activities drain you most? Why?
Copied and pasted from above:
a) Writing (about topics that interest me), stimulating conversations, listening to music, playing the piano/ukulele, etc.
b) Loud parties, dealing with needy people, too much detail oriented work in one setting (my current part time job involves clerical work)
Why? I am a low-energy person and too much extroversion is too demanding and not worth the effort.

17. Why do you want to know your type? What type do you think you are? Why this/these type(s)? Is there a type that appeals to you, to your self-perception, that you would like to be? Why? If you know your enneagram, please post this here. If you have done any online function tests such as the Keys2Cognition, it helps if you post these results here as well.

I want to know who I really am, and not just a mirage of who I am. However, I want to find a good balance between self-perception and the way others see me, because a combination would paint the full picture.

The million-dollar answer to the second question is... INTP.
I thought that I was a Ti dominant user, with inferior Fe. I set my own rules and standards for myself that I don't enforce upon others, and I find Te a bit authoritative. I always had trouble following directions, especially during lab in high school. It's not like I tried to deviate from what the manual said, but I couldn't bring myself to follow them step by step. Hell, I even tweaked the instructions (if it was reasonable to do so) and still got the same results as I would have if I followed them step-by-step. As for inferior Fe, I see it manifested when I interact with others. I don't know the right thing to say, and I've been called insensitive at times, though I wasn't trying to. When giving others advise, I always tell them to take it with a grain of salt because I don't want to be responsible for any trouble from any shortcoming from my advice.

That would narrow it down to INTP or ISTP, but I know that I'm not an ISTP because I'm just so disconnected with the physical world.

But the parts that stump me is that I don't relate to the INTP 'stereotype' that they have the need to correct logical inconsistencies. I see them, but I don't find it necessary to point it out. I think it's more effective for the other person to figure it out themselves, if we're dealing with the truth. No matter how many times I correct the person, it might go through one ear and out the other.

18. Finally, is there something else you find to be of importance you want to add about yourself you think might be of relevance when helping to type you?

I identify with the Christian faith (I don't want to get into any religious debates right now) because it makes to me logically, emotionally, spiritually, and relationally. This is a conclusion I came to myself instead of me blindly following an 'organized religion.'
 

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I gravitate towards alternative, classical and film scores. The meaning behind the lyrics is important to me, if there are lyrics, and how the song sounds in general too matters. My favorite artist is Coldplay, and one of my favorite film scores is "First Step" from Interstellar.

Once in a while, I'd have a catchy pop song stuck in my head, but if the lyrics are trashy, I try to find a karaoke version of it and listen to the track.
 

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I gravitate towards alternative, classical and film scores. The meaning behind the lyrics is important to me, if there are lyrics, and how the song sounds in general too matters. My favorite artist is Coldplay, and one of my favorite film scores is "First Step" from Interstellar.

Once in a while, I'd have a catchy pop song stuck in my head, but if the lyrics are trashy, I try to find a karaoke version of it and listen to the track.
What do you like in classical? Also, do you mind telling us your age?
 

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What do you like in classical? Also, do you mind telling us your age?
I appreciate the works of Tchaikovsky, and Satie's Trois Gymnopedies is one of my favorites as well. I prefer orchestral over a singular piano, but it really depends on the piece.

I'm 20 years old.
 

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1. Judging by your post, your introversion seems to be self-evident.
2. You're an intuitive because you're interested in things that deal with abstractions rather than concrete facts. Judging by the relative grammatical, structural and logical coherency of your post, I'd say you're a Ni user. Usually, Ne users your age are not as concise.
3. Your values are empathetic; you do not shy away from expressing them. That suggests Fe.
4. Because your judging function is extroverted, you're a judging type. That makes you an INFJ.
Can you point out precisely where the OP makes it clear she does not shy away from expressing values?
In questions 2 and 4, the OP indicates a rock-solid preference for keeping things in her head, unless she feels forced not to.
It is not a natural tendency for the OP to express herself in the way you suggest.

The other three points you posted up are definitely worthy of scrutiny as well, but we'll do it one at a time.
 
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