The thing about being INTJ is not just that we have intelligence, (that is not unique to us), it is that we have a plan, and we know that that plan will work. Our logo should include the words "Trust me, I know what I'm doing." Hmmm... what is that in Latin?
a few people got a bit excited about all this even though no one at any point was actually claiming that all intj's are intelligent, or even that intjs are by definition more intelligent than anyone else, merely that we possess intelligence......That is the point I tried to make with my post, INTJ's do not have sole claim to intelligence. INTJs that claim that all INTJs are intelligent are stupid and automatically invalidate their own argument.
INTJ's are normally, as much as I hate to admit it never wrong and very smart. NTJ'S also have a lot of pride, so I don't think you are going to get very far with this. Who would willingly say "Oh yeah count me in, I'm retarded"? But good luck.
i agree, i would go so far as to suggest anyone with an iq of less than 109 might not even be on this forum at all - is that wrong of me? apologies in advance to anyone if i offend - but :
* does anyone know how people on the mid to lower end of the iq spectrum tend to MB test?
* is it in fact accurate (rather than being irrationally superior) to say that INTJ's do have a significantly greater number of people of 'superior intelligence or higher' amongst us compared to other MB types
* are there types, who have a higher percentage than intj's amongst them, of superior intelligence or higher
i'm just asking the questions? does anyone have any facts?
No I don't believe that anyone I know has an IQ below 109...
I took an IQ test sometime in elementary school I think, but I don't remember what the number was. Can the number change throughout your life?
I took an IQ test sometime in elementary school I think, but I don't remember what the number was. Can the number change throughout your life?
IQ SchmIQ!! :bored:
As a small child I was tested with a result of the scale (WISC). It was the highest score the psychologist had ever measured or seen in person and so high he could not point an exact number upon it.
IQ SchmIQ!! :bored:
Here's a thought: Why don't we look at people for their virtues and qualities? Anyone familiar with Howard Gardner's multiple intelligences? (last time I counted there were 16) IQ isn't by far the be all and end all of capacity. Have mercy on those lesser fortunate and pray those with greater capacity have mercy on us.
As a small child I was tested with a result of the scale (WISC). It was the highest score the psychologist had ever measured or seen in person and so high he could not point an exact number upon it. In truth, I should've never been told the results of the test. Later in my childhood it has been repeated with similar results. One caveat, I questioned its validity due to my previous understanding of IQ tests. :dry:
All in all, we must make do with what we're given. There are always some that got and others that ain't. I can say that being one that got, it ain't a blessing unless expressed adequately. My problem is that I never knew what to do with this potential. For someone with lesser capacity it's easier to reach more of their potential but therein lies the challenge for everyone. Bring an intuitive person, I tend to value the capacity of heart over my powers of reason. Reason upon a loving heart I then consider to be light upon light... :wink:
IQ SchmIQ!! :bored:
In truth, I should've never been told the results of the test. Later in my childhood it has been repeated with similar results. One caveat, I questioned its validity due to my previous understanding of IQ tests. :dry:
:wink:
Here's a thought: Who said that we only valued intelligence?
No apparently. Your IQ is supposed to remain constant.
We kind of do, don't we? I mean, along with grammar, punctuation and logic.
Yes, but that's with outside effects. Your IQ score will not have actually changed.I'm not sure that's 100% right. There are also differences in scale from test to test and you can test differently depending on your mood. People who are depressed test lower that they would if they are not depressed, for example. You can also test differently depending on how the test is conducted.