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I'm an ESFJ and the MBTI theory is more interesting to me than most things I read about online... I read and learn new stuff about MBTI all the time... I have Dyslexia - I have to reread about things over and over to truly understand them, OCD - 60mg of Prozac daily is taking care of this, Asperger's Syndrome - This is great for doing well in things outside of social situations but sucky with socializing and I've trained myself to socialize well with people, Avoidant Personality Disorder - I feel recovered from this to be honest and really don't suffer from the symptoms like I used to, and Bipolar I - I've learned to control my temper with my mind. I've been thinking a lot tonight about MBTI types and how you can't base a type off one person's behavior. I think this should be common sense but I truly believe you need to see stuff for yourself to have your eyes truly opened on stuff like this. I've realized that I've been around other ESFJ's that are different from me, ESFP's who are opposites from each other, ENFJ's who are opposites from each other, ISFP's who are opposite from each other, ENTP's that are different from each other, and the list could go on forever... one person that a lot of people can't stand was an ESFP but so was a person that everyone loves to death... my mother is an ENTP leader at her job and everyone loves her... I've yelled at my mom before for responding too quick to what I'm saying before and giving me more information at once than I'm capable of comprehending... my mom is great other than responding too quick sometimes but I've gotten used to it and I know it's an ESFJ thing for me to not be so easy to accept negative things about people close to me... she's great... another guy I think is an ENTP is someone who is very smart with computers and he talks really fast... I like listening to him talk more than actually talking back and forth with him because I'm into computers and I learn a lot from him... this schizophrenic that most people can't stand that loved to talk people's ear off to where they can't get a single word in is an ENTP... I'm an ESFJ and people respect me so much on YouTube... so is this guy who is very disrespected by people for giving off the vibe that a lot of people on YouTube are not good people and being really judgmental over their character merely off of YouTube content and he claims he's not jealous of anyone... this guy I know who I think is an ISFP is one of the most cynical people I've ever interacted with and 2 other guys I know of who are ISFP's are two amazing people in my eyes... one ESFP I know of is really soft-spoken level-headed person that's louder in words than actions and handsome person that females love... very nice too... another one is really loud in actions but quiet in words... one person I know of who's an ESFP is just a very nice guy who's really blunt about things.

TL;DR - In a nutshell, there are good and bad people of all personality types just like they are good and bad people in every ethnic group yet it's hard for a lot of people to really get used to that fact unless you've experienced things related to it over and over and the past few hours before this post were really eye opening to me about how much I hate stereotypes yet I find myself wanting a deep understanding of them.
 

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People shouldn't be judged by their type. MBTI is just a tool. Everyone's life experiences are different which colors our perception of who they are and thus, their different display of their type. But just as you can group various shades of green into the color "green", you can group people by type and find that useful for many different purposes. It does help in improving communications when you understand a person's type, for example.

And as I have found as a dietitian and weight-loss specialist, it does help people lose weight by following a plan that is comfortable for their type. When they do, it isn't a diet but a lifestyle. So, personality type has value even with weight loss.

But we mustn't box people in by it either.
 

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People shouldn't be judged by their type. MBTI is just a tool. Everyone's life experiences are different which colors our perception of who they are and thus, their different display of their type. But just as you can group various shades of green into the color "green", you can group people by type and find that useful for many different purposes. It does help in improving communications when you understand a person's type, for example.

And as I have found as a dietitian and weight-loss specialist, it does help people lose weight by following a plan that is comfortable for their type. When they do, it isn't a diet but a lifestyle. So, personality type has value even with weight loss.

But we mustn't box people in by it either.
That's a great response to what I posted above and welcome to the forum... I see you only have 3 posts. :)
 

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Thanks for the welcome, XRandomShadowManx. Being a newbie, I've just gotten started, thus only 3 posts. I see your "Post Rank" is "Newbie" whereas mine is "Stranger". Do you know what makes me a "Stranger" and not a "newbie"? I think I like the name Newbie better than Stranger. I'm figuring it's a time element. Yet, you've been a member since 2011 and are still considered a Newbie. What determines the different rankings?
 

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l see your point.

But essentially that's why it's important to zero in on cognitive functions and not base typing on behavior. Which isn't easy to do, hence why many people type based on their outward behavior alone.

Disorders also make typing more challenging in that a person can have traits that seem contradictory in terms of MBTI.

l've changed type after learning more about the functions, from INTP to ENTP and then almost to ENFP but my function order just borders on ENFP.

The people you're typing in your life may not be those types, and you could just be assuming they are based on their behavior so you don't know whether they fit the type you've given them or not (unless they typed themselves, in which case l apologize). l have a few people in my life l think l've typed correctly but you can never know.

But yes, anyway, totally agree. You could have an INFJ and ENTP who seem more similar than two random ENTPs.
 

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Thanks for the welcome, XRandomShadowManx. Being a newbie, I've just gotten started, thus only 3 posts. I see your "Post Rank" is "Newbie" whereas mine is "Stranger". Do you know what makes me a "Stranger" and not a "newbie"? I think I like the name Newbie better than Stranger. I'm figuring it's a time element. Yet, you've been a member since 2011 and are still considered a Newbie. What determines the different rankings?
Post count. A lot of people don't post, they lurk :p and read.

I agree with OP, take me for example. ISFP cynical & not into art. Lots of other things that don't agree with the stereotype. It took ages for me to figure out that I am ISFP.
 

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I'm an ESFJ and the MBTI theory is more interesting to me than most things I read about online... I read and learn new stuff about MBTI all the time... I have Dyslexia - I have to reread about things over and over to truly understand them, OCD - 60mg of Prozac daily is taking care of this, Asperger's Syndrome - This is great for doing well in things outside of social situations but sucky with socializing and I've trained myself to socialize well with people, Avoidant Personality Disorder - I feel recovered from this to be honest and really don't suffer from the symptoms like I used to, and Bipolar I - I've learned to control my temper with my mind. I've been thinking a lot tonight about MBTI types and how you can't base a type off one person's behavior. I think this should be common sense but I truly believe you need to see stuff for yourself to have your eyes truly opened on stuff like this. I've realized that I've been around other ESFJ's that are different from me, ESFP's who are opposites from each other, ENFJ's who are opposites from each other, ISFP's who are opposite from each other, ENTP's that are different from each other, and the list could go on forever... one person that a lot of people can't stand was an ESFP but so was a person that everyone loves to death... my mother is an ENTP leader at her job and everyone loves her... I've yelled at my mom before for responding too quick to what I'm saying before and giving me more information at once than I'm capable of comprehending... my mom is great other than responding too quick sometimes but I've gotten used to it and I know it's an ESFJ thing for me to not be so easy to accept negative things about people close to me... she's great... another guy I think is an ENTP is someone who is very smart with computers and he talks really fast... I like listening to him talk more than actually talking back and forth with him because I'm into computers and I learn a lot from him... this schizophrenic that most people can't stand that loved to talk people's ear off to where they can't get a single word in is an ENTP... I'm an ESFJ and people respect me so much on YouTube... so is this guy who is very disrespected by people for giving off the vibe that a lot of people on YouTube are not good people and being really judgmental over their character merely off of YouTube content and he claims he's not jealous of anyone... this guy I know who I think is an ISFP is one of the most cynical people I've ever interacted with and 2 other guys I know of who are ISFP's are two amazing people in my eyes... one ESFP I know of is really soft-spoken level-headed person that's louder in words than actions and handsome person that females love... very nice too... another one is really loud in actions but quiet in words... one person I know of who's an ESFP is just a very nice guy who's really blunt about things.

TL;DR - In a nutshell, there are good and bad people of all personality types just like they are good and bad people in every ethnic group yet it's hard for a lot of people to really get used to that fact unless you've experienced things related to it over and over and the past few hours before this post were really eye opening to me about how much I hate stereotypes yet I find myself wanting a deep understanding of them.

Thanks for the welcome, XRandomShadowManx. Being a newbie, I've just gotten started, thus only 3 posts. I see your "Post Rank" is "Newbie" whereas mine is "Stranger". Do you know what makes me a "Stranger" and not a "newbie"? I think I like the name Newbie better than Stranger. I'm figuring it's a time element. Yet, you've been a member since 2011 and are still considered a Newbie. What determines the different rankings?
Few pro tips for you guys lol....

Paragraphs are sweet. Please use them.

Try to make your points concisely, not like an asthmatic person running a race.

The number of posts/special considerations determine your post rank. You'll notice some people have the orange names: that means they have 3000 posts. Over 1000 gets you VIP.

Anyway, on topic. MBTI is one of many systems to consider. Read on the Jungian functions to understand the original intent of the system.

Most such generalizations are either misinformed or tongue-in-cheek. You are correct that in saying INTPs are always cynical or ENFPs all love rain is a bit dense. That isn't really the purpose of the systems, so ignore that kind of thinking if you see it, unless there is a solid logical reason for it.
 

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Well said; this is something that comes up all the time. There are a lot of typist people out there who build up stereotypes based on certain people whose types they know. We are more than just our types. I can't say that enough. I am happy with all sorts of different people. I get my best ideas from interacting with others. Variety is the spice of life.
 

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You did read the part about the op having dyslexia, Aspergers, and bipolar, right? This means that the OP thinks, interacts, and expresses himself in different size "chunks" than the vast majority of "neuraltypicals" do. It may not be possible for the OP to take your suggestions as a result.
 

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Pro tip for you: the OP said he has dyslexia and Asperger's. Both of these conditions make it difficult for people to structure their writing.
Sorry to be blunt.
Fair enough, let me be more constructive.

Immediately after you type a single period @xRandomShadowManx, use a paragraph break. I noticed that you use periods where a paragraph break would normally be.

Paragraphs are easier to pick out and help divide what you are saying into topics. It helps people refer back to a specific point more quickly, thus making it easier for them to reply to your thoughts.

You could also try bolding or underlining points you feel strongly about or think are more important.

if you care, of course.
 

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Fair enough, let me be more constructive.

Immediately after you type a single period @xRandomShadowManx, use a paragraph break. I noticed that you use periods where a paragraph break would normally be.

Paragraphs are easier to pick out and help divide what you are saying into topics. It helps people refer back to a specific point more quickly, thus making it easier for them to reply to your thoughts.

You could also try bolding or underlining points you feel strongly about or think are more important.

if you care, of course.
This is a public message board and NOT a college class.

I have a lot of respect for your English skills that come in handy but I think you need to have more respect for other people's communication skills.

I wish I could close this thread because it got really off topic and if anyone wants to discuss what I discussed, they can create a new thread.

This thread was a great discussion and will certainly help a lot of people learn more about MBTI but it got off topic here and that's what I get for starting threads with my raw thought process. I've been through this type of discussion more times than I can remember off the top and I have a great long-term photographic memory both in person and through modern technology.

Everyone who participated in this thread helped me grow a lot as an individual and a personality forum like this is great in my opinion for stuff like that. I've grown from other threads I've started here but this thread about MBTI as a whole helped me grow the most.

I hope everyone has a nice day after they do something other than reading this thread.

That is all. :D
 
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