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More moral and/or more intelligent than others?

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The Muhammad Ali effect, according to wiki:
The Muhammad Ali Effect is a term used in psychology that was named after him when he stated, "I only said I was the greatest, not the smartest" in his autobiography The Greatest: My Own Story. According to this effect, when people are asked to rate their intelligence and moral behavior in comparison to others, people will rate themselves as more moral, but not more intelligent than others.
So, do you agree or not? Because I'm the opposite - I think I'm less moral and more intelligent that most people. Do you think that Enneagram and MBTI might play a role in the answer?
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Usually, it's people who think their morality, intelligence, and opinions are above everyone else's who commit the most heinous acts.

As for the question, morality and intelligence are pretty subjective things, so no, I wouldn't say I'm "better" than others in either way.
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I think I am no more moral and no more intelligent than everyone else.
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hmm. Well I know I'm relatively intelligent, but I don't believe that intelligence can be accurately measured.

Morals? Me? lol....absolutely not...although that doesn't mean that I go around killing people..
I'm more intelligent that the average and I'm less moral than the average.
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Lmbo, most think they're more intelligent than others. that just creates arrogance/i'm smarter than you attitude (in some people), which makes them appear like they have a few screws missing.
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More intelligent than others? If I go by my IQ tests, then I'm quite a bit above "the average".
More Moral than others? No.
I remember a psychology professor asking us how we define intelligence & we spent an hour + chipping away at it. Never quite nailed it down. Based on what we came up with I'd guess I'm of average intelligence. Morally, still not sure. I read of the heinous crimes people commit daily & think I'm above that but someone might spend an hour in my shoes & think I'm disgusting. I'll say average there too.
i don't really think i'm more smartly or moral than "others"
I've definitely got more morals than other people, and maybe I don't have a lot of knowledge intelligence, but I reckon I think one hell of a lot more about doing some things than other people. Like I look at other people, see what they're doing wrong, and from there I don't do what they do. I don't like contradicting myself, so I follow what I value. Some things I just reckon is plain stupid (positions) that people get themselves into that they could have easily avoided, had they followed their thinking rather than what they're feeling at that particular moment in time...
I'm forced to think of myself as more intelligent than everyone else, it's all anyone ever compliments me on, and people always seek me out when they don't know the answer to things, even when I don't have the answer.

However, I pride myself on my rogueish, selfish morals because I know i'm more sincere about what I do than most people.
I put myself as both more moral and intelligent than others, but in reality, 25% of people are probably more intelligent than me, and 10% more moral.

My IQ is about 110 and my creative and emotional scores were around 130 when I had official tests done in high school- of course, they could be a bit higher, because when I was tested I was really stressed, I had trouble taking in new information and my mind was in a fog like state.

I feel like most people on this site are more intelligent than me- maybe its just the threads I'm visiting?
So, do you agree or not? Because I'm the opposite - I think I'm less moral and more intelligent that most people. Do you think that Enneagram and MBTI might play a role in the answer?
I am not very moralist... I don't give a damn to moral and to respecting others. In place of that I prefer to have an hedonistic behavior towards others... Let me explain. I don't go for *I respect everyone... I am nice* NOP In fact, no one respects me and if you would let them, people were now fucking you in all possible ways. Besides, I find moralistic fundamentals very hypocritical.
In place of that I say *I will please you if you please me and if you don't damage my freedom*... I prefer to have that life style. *Be happy and make others happy*

1s and 5s are the most moralistic people. 9s and 6s can also be like that. Some 8s too. However they can be extremely revengeful and break everything that they believed before (that's one difference between 8s and 1s lol)
7s, rebel 6s and some 3s and 4s don't seem too much moralist. 5s at the dr. Frankeinstein level aren't.

Recording to intelligence, I don't know if I am or not more intelligent than others... I think that in an emotional level no. But i try not to give more importance to IQ...It doesn't seem useful at all.

I don't find associations between intelligence and IQ (however, : ( i have to say that in the begining i found the stereotype of 7s incredibly dumb)
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Maybe when I was younger I might have considered myself more intelligent than others, but it was always specific people, I never held the view of being more intelligent than some faceless majority.

These days I dont think im more intelligent than most people, with only a small number of exceptions.

Im certainly not more moral than anyone and no experience in my life has ever proven otherwise.

On the flipside a lot of people's perceptions of me are that I am unintelligent but moral.
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I think it really has to do with your current situation.
I sometimes feel more moral and more intelligent than others. Some people just don't seem to give a fuck about the well being of others and society, just going through life building their ever-expanding egotistical selves. I feel more intelligent than others in real life, but feel stupid online.
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I put "not more moral or more intelligent than others".

There are lots of people on here that are a lot smarter than me in my supposed strong suits. Then there is always the "different intelligence" thought avenues one could go down.

Then there is morality. I have a higher morality in some areas whilst in others I do not. For instance, I find it incredibly cruel to hurt animals yet I could sleep just fine killing a random human being on the street, but I don't find it logical.
I put "not more moral or more intelligent than others".

There are lots of people on here that are a lot smarter than me in my supposed strong suits. Then there is always the "different intelligence" thought avenues one could go down.

Then there is morality. I have a higher morality in some areas whilst in others I do not. For instance, I find it incredibly cruel to hurt animals yet I could sleep just fine killing a random human being on the street, but I don't find it logical.
...are you perhaps suggesting that have killed a random human being on the street... or are planning to do so??
...are you perhaps suggesting that have killed a random human being on the street... or are planning to do so??
Haha, no. None to worry there. I'm just saying it wouldn't bother me but I have no reason to do so.

In fact, it is because of this particular outlook and my shitty high school experience that led me to being a pacifist by nature, I would likely kill somebody if I got into a real fight.
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lol, I'm a little confused... I thought being a pacifist meant avoiding violence, and being opposed to it completely...
But, I think I might sort of get where your coming from because I too had a shitty HS experience, people can really suck.
Though -with that said- you may not have a problem in the act of killing someone (due to a fight or whatever else) based on what your saying, but who is to say you'd be fine 'sleeping at night'? It is a pretty intense thing, to take a life, and if you haven't done so already I find it sort of unjustified to say how you'd feel afterwards.
I'm not trying to say your feelings are unjustified though, because they most definitely are justified. I was just interested by your comment and felt compelled to respond, I hope I don't offend you... 'twas not my intention at all. :]
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lol, I'm a little confused... I thought being a pacifist meant avoiding violence, and being opposed to it completely...
From googling "Define: Pacficist"
Definition for pacifist:

Web definitions:

someone opposed to violence as a means of settling disputes
I'm mostly just opposed to violence inside of myself, I try to stay pretty calm.

Though -with that said- you may not have a problem in the act of killing someone (due to a fight or whatever else) based on what your saying, but who is to say you'd be fine 'sleeping at night'?
I tried killing a few people once, failed, kind of glad I failed too, I would have gone to jail... other than that though it didn't bother me, but then again, they deserved to die.

It is a pretty intense thing, to take a life, and if you haven't done so already I find it sort of unjustified to say how you'd feel afterwards.
I suppose I should clarify a little, I don't mean innocent people that are good natured, I would likely feel bad if I killed someone like that. I mean the rotten people, the people that I'm thining of are back from high school, I would imagine it's the same thing as squashing a bug.

I'm not trying to say your feelings are unjustified though, because they most definitely are justified.
My feelings are rather selfish, so you would be justified in saying they are not justified.

I was just interested by your comment and felt compelled to respond, I hope I don't offend you... not my intention at all. :]
Don't worry about it, I try to stay pretty chill nowadays:happy: and I doubt you really could offend me over the internet, I can just ignore your comment and scroll to the next one if you bother me.
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