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  • More moral, but not more intelligent than others

    Votes: 19 9.8%
  • More moral and more intelligent than others

    Votes: 84 43.3%
  • Not more moral, but more intelligent than others

    Votes: 64 33.0%
  • Not more moral and not more intelligent than others

    Votes: 27 13.9%

More moral and/or more intelligent than others?

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The Muhammad Ali effect, according to wiki:
The Muhammad Ali Effect is a term used in psychology that was named after him when he stated, "I only said I was the greatest, not the smartest" in his autobiography The Greatest: My Own Story. According to this effect, when people are asked to rate their intelligence and moral behavior in comparison to others, people will rate themselves as more moral, but not more intelligent than others.
So, do you agree or not? Because I'm the opposite - I think I'm less moral and more intelligent that most people. Do you think that Enneagram and MBTI might play a role in the answer?
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From googling "Define: Pacficist"

I'm mostly just opposed to violence inside of myself, I try to stay pretty calm.

I tried killing a few people once, failed, kind of glad I failed too, I would have gone to jail... other than that though it didn't bother me, but then again, they deserved to die.

I suppose I should clarify a little, I don't mean innocent people that are good natured, I would likely feel bad if I killed someone like that. I mean the rotten people, the people that I'm thining of are back from high school, I would imagine it's the same thing as squashing a bug.

My feelings are rather selfish, so you would be justified in saying they are not justified.

Don't worry about it, I try to stay pretty chill nowadays:happy: and I doubt you really could offend me over the internet, I can just ignore your comment and scroll to the next one if you bother me.
I'm glad I didn't bother you enough where you decided not to respond, I love a response!

So, I'd have to disagree with you when you say "they deserved to die"... not to make what happened to you in HS sound invalid, or rather, your feelings towards it as invalid... but I'm really more the type of person who rejects all morals -because I don't see them as being based on any sort of fact/evidence. I am not religious because of this very same idea. I'm just leaning towards what your saying as being sort of a moral interpretation of your situation.
Though, I am glad to read that you would likely not consider killing what you see to be as an innocent/kind-hearted person...
And it is evident that you are not devoid of all empathy, especially because of the affection you feel towards animals, as you mentioned earlier. I'm assuming this has a lot to do with your negative experience in HS and you have somehow applied that to life in general... which makes perfect sense because it was part of your learning process for life, which is what HS really is for most people (it was for me -and I had many horrible experiences is HS as well- I just came to a different conclusion than yourself, which I find interesting).
Anyway, again I hope you don't get angry with me, I am really just genuinely interested in reading the feelings/opinions on a subject from another person that I seem to feel quite differently about. :]]
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Everyone seems to think that everyone else is stupid.
And they would have to be STUPID to believe that.
So I guess we're all correct. We're each and everyone
of us just as dumb as a box of bricks.

I think I'm smarter than the people around me because
they work so hard to pay for shit they don't need because
they're too busy working to pay for it to even use it.
I just don't buy anything.

But, then again, I can't even remember what I said
five seconds ago. Just today someone said to me,
"Did you just say, 'Here, have a snack?'" And I didn't
even know what they were talking about, because I
had spoken without even hearing myself. I could have

Yea. Stupid all around.

As for morality, no one can agree on that long enough
to even compare one another. But that doesn't stop
us all from trying! Yes, I will judge you, hoe. ah ahahahahahahaaa
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As horrible as it may sound, yes I am more more moral and intelligent than the typical person. I think a sense of morality and intelligence are interconnected so one necessarily follows from the other.
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I can define morality. Yet I can't judge with any great certainty whether other people are upholding it or not... it's not for me to say emphatically.

I can't define intelligence.

So all I have to offer is an opinion, that's based on something I can't determine, and upon something I can't define.

The options leave me scratching my head.
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I found this difficult to answer due to the morality aspect because morality suffers from being an incredibly subjective thing. I consider myself moral because I don't violate my personal ethical code. However, my morality is vastly different from a Christian fundamentalist. That sort of person would most likely base their morality on adherence to select biblical concepts in such a way that my tendencies towards being a pot-smoking-reproductive-rights-defending-premarital-sex-having-lefty-feminist would be seen as excruciatingly amoral to the extent that I'd be headed straight to hell. On the other hand, I see fundamentalist Christians ideas as oppressive and harmful so they are, by my ethical code, amoral. Who is right? Well me, I'm right. This is because it's my lens through which I am defining the parameters of morality. So yeah, I didn't vote.
In general, I'm more intelligent (proven during my studies) and definitely less moral than others.
However, there are some particularities. E. g. my emotional intelligence is a lot below average.
More moral, not more intelligent.

I suppose intelligence might give me more to talk about with someone. That seems pretty irrelevant to me, though..just maybe not in practice. Because I think all things stem from morale, I tend to value it more than anything else.

What I know is, if someone valued intelligence more, I'd probably be running from them.
Morality is a human construct, thus I can say I'm intelligent, but since I know morality is a construct, I cannot consider myself moral. I do what I believe is right because it is the right thing to do. I seek no rewards, nor fear no punishments for doing so.
More moral: Nah, I try, but I'm probably about average here.

More intelligent: I did horrible on standardized tests, dropped out of college, apparently fail at self-teaching, just today realized I'm a shining example of the Dunning-Kruger effect, and have managed to score lower on IQ tests with each taking. So no, not more intelligent either.
*Hipster, douche mode on*

I refuse to compare myself or others for your poll. We are all individuals with our own views on morality and intelligence. Therefore, one could not accurately assess their intelligence and morality.

Check your damn privilege!

*Hipster, douche mode off*

In all seriousness, I don't find myself more moral, nor intelligent. Thus, I'm very useless. Thanks for reminding me!
Many users seem to think very highly of themselves...
I definitely do not think I am more intelligent than "others" meaning everyone. I choose the first one because when I was younger I developed morals quicker than the average child but my intelligence was lower than average. I think morals and intelligence balances more as you become older.
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