well i spose u want a solution that works. and..who said that N types can't come up with solutions that work?
it seems like you are being a bit oversimplified here..
This wasn't as well explained as it could be perhaps. (My thoughts are bit fuzzy,I'm medicated at the moment) I didn't meant that S's have answers and Ns just rattle off nonsense. Not even close. I just find that the way in which Ss prevent their thoughts suit me better than the way Ns do. They seem more convinced in their believes rather than exploring various possibilities (like what I do) I want to try to simplify things when possible and I'm not good at it, so I turned to the sensors in my life who seem to have that ability. Again, I should state, I'm just going based on the people I know in my personal life, not trying to generalize.
I prefer talking to senoritas, myself.I find it weird but I've noticed that I actually enjoy talking to senors more than intuitives much of the time.
I find it weird but I've noticed that I actually enjoy talking to senors more than intuitives much of the time. Now, I know I'm an ENFP because I've studies the functions, took various tests (online in recently in a college course) and I do enjoy how other Ns get me, but there are times when I just appreciate S's more, especially when I'm stressed and I want a "here and now" answer rather than speculative philosphy. I feel like my mind does that myself and sometimes it aggitates me. Does anyone else feel this way? (Or do any Ss prefer Ns?) I just find it starnge because from what I've heard the S v N different is usually th most difficult one for people to deal with in relationships.
I know what you mean. N's are great to discuss with, but they have a certain tendency to live in ideals rather than reality, which can get a bit annoying when you try to get things done.
Reality is arbitrary. I'm getting tired of this notion that intuitors live in a fantasy world. I'm not delusional. I may not be affraid to look outside of the box, and I may have an opinon of the way things "should be", but that doesn't mean that I don't live in "reality".
Of course sensors should respect intuitives for their abilities, just as intuitives should respect sensors. It seems you have had bad experiences with some sensors, and I understand your point of view, but intuitives aren't perfect, and I see nothing wrong with criticizing them.Yes, sensors are useful. They love to point out how useful and tangible their interests are. Good for them. There's nothing wrong with that. The problem is when they start using phrases like "head in the clouds" to describe intuitors implying that they are useless human beings that contribute nothing.
Vision is useful. Thinking outside the box is also useful, and in my opinon progressive. Concepts and ideas are just a different way of understanding the world. They are not "fantasy".
Of course sensors should respect intuitives for their abilities, just as intuitives should respect sensors. It seems you have had bad experiences with some sensors, and I understand your point of view, but intuitives aren't perfect, and I see nothing wrong with criticizing them.
Of course we are both generalizing. All intuitors and sensors are not the same. My main point was to say something possitive about intuitors in general.
I respect sensors in general. I think that anybody who calls them "shallow-minded sheep", especially if they are referring to Se's, is very arrogant, and I am not taking that position at all.
My post was defensive and not offensive in any way. There's nothing wrong with criticizing intuitors, but personally I hear a lot more of that in "real life". Sensors are not perfect either, but it seems like if you criticize them for anything, you will get labled a "stuck-up snob".
Fair is fair. We all have good qualities and bad qualities. I don't think any mindset or temparment in and of itself is "worthless". They don't even have anything to do with who you are as a person, which is more important, IMO.