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So according to my MBTI I'm intuitive, but according to the actual definition of the word I'm not all. I never get those "gut feelings" and I'm pretty oblivious as to how I come across to other's unless I really think about it and even then, my judgement cannot be trusted. Anyone else relate to or have insight on this apparent descprency between my type and personality?
 

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Well intuitive in MBTI terms doesn't necessarily mean being psychic or anything like that. In your case you have extroverted intuition as your dominant process which just basically means, you gather information from your external world but you are able to perceive patterns and possibilities from that information so you can create "what-if.." situations and imaginative scenarios. Ne sees patterns and connects and from there can come up with a bunch of zany ideas.
 

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The description for the basic Intuition process is a bit slanted, and doesn't account for the differences between type, or even between Introverted and Extroverted Intuition. Being 'oblivious' might actually be more on the intuitive scale than you think, as many xNxx types I've seen claim to 'live in their heads', and fail to sometimes pay attention to how others perceive them. As for the gut feelings, it's not a literal gut feeling, of course -- I'd interpret it more as just a sudden feeling for something, that can't be explained. Not so much a hunch, but perhaps an unconscious preference.
 

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The description for the basic Intuition process is a bit slanted, and doesn't account for the differences between type, or even between Introverted and Extroverted Intuition. Being 'oblivious' might actually be more on the intuitive scale than you think, as many xNxx types I've seen claim to 'live in their heads', and fail to sometimes pay attention to how others perceive them. As for the gut feelings, it's not a literal gut feeling, of course -- I'd interpret it more as just a sudden feeling for something, that can't be explained. Not so much a hunch, but perhaps an unconscious preference.

It's actually ironic that you say this, because I totally see it is the case. Take me and my brother for example (Azrael) He is intuitive and I am not according to typing, but when it comes to real world situations, I am the one who is much more intuitive. And he definitely meets the "live in your head" description lol ;)
 

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That seems to be the paradox of 'S' vs. 'N' types; 'Sensors' always seem more intuitive than the Intuitives themselves. It's been brought up a few times, but I believe it's because the xSxx types are more conscious of physical cues, whereas xNxx types are not, making them seem oblivious, and the xSxx types seem more intuitive than they.
 

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I'm probably completely off base here but here's my input on S and N and predicting people:

S, a person would find a person predictable based on what the know of the person (Si), and such small changes in tone, face, body, and more to predict their next action. They are usually right on their predictions and KNOW what the person is going to say/do, they can be steps ahead of the conversation.

N, there's always just the "knowing" what the person is going to do based on nothing you can explain, but they also mentally connect what the person has said to come to a prediction, and usually true they will not really know what they even grabbed from the person.


Gathering the information on people is done mostly subconsciously, it's just how they go about doing it that is different. It's why S can appear as intuition.
 

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That seems to be the paradox of 'S' vs. 'N' types; 'Sensors' always seem more intuitive than the Intuitives themselves. It's been brought up a few times, but I believe it's because the xSxx types are more conscious of physical cues, whereas xNxx types are not, making them seem oblivious, and the xSxx types seem more intuitive than they.
I usualy know something, then I can logicly figure out why I know something. Not the otherways around. I think sensors gether information first and make conclusions with it. N types know inhearently.

Take a N type doctor, and there is alot of them. He knows you have cancer, and then runs tests to find out his intuition was correct. While the S type doctor deduces first and then runs tests.... I think that made sence
 

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My sister (an INTP) and I both agree that we see "patterns". I had asked her this not too long ago.:tongue:

If something happened in a certain way previously and then it happens again at some point in time, then there's automatically a pattern.
 

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Take a N type doctor, and there is alot of them. He knows you have cancer, and then runs tests to find out his intuition was correct. While the S type doctor deduces first and then runs tests.... I think that made sence
I like your analogy, this is a good example of the main differences between intuitive persons and sensory persons.

Intuitive; foresees the overall construction firstly before understanding each integral detail, mainly based on pattern-seeking and/or assumptions. From my understanding of intuits, intuition is often a consequence of being less sensory-grounded since they pay attention to general ideas instead of amassing information to fit in the framework of an idea.

Forests, not trees.

Sensory; naturally finds the information to form the overall construct to be a much more comfortable process than intuiting; generally, sensors distrust their own hunches and disregard any extensions of truth until people can reason their own ideas well enough to meet the sensor's standards.

Trees, not forests.
 

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So according to my MBTI I'm intuitive, but according to the actual definition of the word I'm not all. I never get those "gut feelings" and I'm pretty oblivious as to how I come across to other's unless I really think about it and even then, my judgement cannot be trusted. Anyone else relate to or have insight on this apparent descprency between my type and personality?
Yes, you are right. Intuitive in the MBTI seems to focus more on being able to figure things out intuitively than having to read directions as well as doing things intuitively in various situation though you didn't 'feel' anything at the time, "you knew just the right thing to say/do". I've also noticed that the J does not mean judgmental in the "you are an awful person", but that you can judge facts and decide what needs to be done to accomplish whatever goal. Personally I don't like the J in mine because deep down it feels like that means I go around being judgemental about people.
 
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